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October 12, 2004 at 11:40 pm #35634
This thread spans six years in time, so I’m not sure how many of these folks are still tuned in at the moment. If there’s no response, Ida, remind me and I’ll see who I can scare up.
October 12, 2004 at 11:40 pm #35669Hi Beth, I hope you are still on here. I am trying to find my Jones family. We know they are Saponi/Blackfoot. There was never no picture of him, or any information on him what so ever. I hope you can answer back and let me know dates on these people. Thank you.
Beth;8150 wrote: Hello. What a great site! I have two Saponi families in my background. I descend from the Guy family as well as the Jones family. My great-great grandparents were William Braddick Jones (son of Harvey Jones and Martha Rosser Jones) and Mary Jane Guy Jones (daughter of Thomas Guy and Adaline Burnett, granddaughter of Vines Guy and Elizabeth Jefferies). They are part of the group that left Virginia/North Carolina for Greene County, Ohio. If anyone has any information about Harvey (or Harbert) Jones and his ancestors or the ancestors of Thomas Guy, I would love to hear from you. I have a wonderful cousin who has done a tremendous amount of research on these families, trying to tie everyone together and I would be happy to put her in touch with any interested researchers.
Beth
October 12, 2004 at 11:40 pm #35765need help appears either Vines or Thomas may have a daughter by the name of Sarah Frances “Fanny” Guy born around 1827 in Cherokee Co Ga. As the children stayed with the Burnett’s as part of their raising. I can not find proper documentation. The Burnett’s have a family site and they list that Thomas was born in 1825, but I doubt very much that Elizabeth and Vines waited 20 years to have 1 child. Which means that either Thomas was born earlier than Burnett’s state and his daughter could be our fanny (doubtful as her mother was given as Marion Guy) or Something happened to Elizabeth and Vines married another woman and Fannie is the product of that marriage or Elizabeth’s middle name is Marion and Fannie is the daughter of Vines and Elizabeth. Anybody who can fill us in on this would be great help.
I also would like to make note that all information stating Vines married Elizabeth Jefferies appears to be incorrect. go to http://files.usgwarchives.org/nc/orange/vitals/grooms2.txt which has the archive list for Vines marrying Elizabeth Harper in 1805 in Orange Co Jan. 8th.
October 12, 2004 at 11:40 pm #35766Hi Gloria,
In my files, I have that Thomas was born ca1825, but his birthdate fluctuated from 1822-1830. In the 1860 census, he was 35. In 1870, he was 40. In 1880, he was 58. In the 1900 census, it said “don’t know” for age. His death record in 1901 said that he was “about 75 years”.
Thomas did have a daughter named Fanny. She was listed with him in the 1880 census when she was 16 (b. ca1864).
The marriage info on that link stated above (post#18) for Vines and Elizabeth may be a transcription error or a copy/paste error as the marriage underneath it is a Harper. It should be Elizabeth Jeffers. I have a copy of the record and it says Jeffers.
North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 (on Ancestry.com)
Groom: Vines Guy
Bride: Elizabeth Jeffers
Bond Date: 08 Jan 1805
Bond #: 000097245
Level Info: North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
ImageNum: 004126
County: Orange
Record #: 01 166
Bondsman: Jesse Blalock
Witness: Jno Taylor
North Carolina Marriages, 1759-1979 (from FamilySearch)
Groom’s Name: Vines Guy
Bride’s Name: Elizabeth Jeffers
Marriage Date: 08 Jan 1805
Marriage Place: Orange,North Carolina
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M51601-7
System Origin: North Carolina-ODM
Source Film Number: 6330300
Vines was still married to Elizabeth when his will was proved in court in May 1836. Elizabeth, his wife, was one of the executors of his will. It stated Elizabeth “to raise my children”, but it goes on to say names and number of children not stated as all seem to be minors.
Hope this helps,
Stacey
October 12, 2004 at 11:40 pm #35767Hi Idabeck,
I don’t have a copy of Thomas’ whole military record (just his pension index card), but I do have William Guy’s. William’s is 11 pages long and about 1.5MB. It is in pdf format, so you will need Adobe to read it. If you send me your email address, I can send it to you.
Stacey
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