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Hello. I am new to this site and like everyone else, I am trying to connect to my roots. I am from Northern Lower Michigan where my mother is currently a member of the Little Traverse Bay Band of Odawa Indians. Recently, however we began to research our roots and we may also be decendents of the Siouan. (Please forgive me if I don’t have this all quite right. This information we have been coming accross is so new.) Let me start by giving some names. Starting with my mothers great-great grandfather:
His name is James W. Jones his wife: Amelia J. Jones
His father: Brinton Jones of Greenville county VA, his wife: Susan Thomas of Mecklenburg County VA
Brinton’s father: Benjamin Jones of VA his wife: Winifred Shehorn of VA
Some other information that may be of interest that we found with other articles and such stated:
The Eastern Siouan Catawba Nation Greenville County VA
The Siouan Nation
Occaneechi Band of the Saponi Nation in Mebane North Carolina
Eno River, Hillsbouro
We have found that on some census’ it states that they are mullato and others say black.
If anyone can offer any help or guidance with this information I would, along with my family, greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance.
Rheanna
I forgot to add some dates that might be helpful.
James W. Jones was born in 1832
Brinton Jones was born Dec. 27, 1813;
his marriage was Sept. 1825;
and his death Feb. 17,1854
Thanks again for any help!
Hi, Rheanna, Welcome.
Yes, these are part of the Whitley Co., Ind group associated and intermarried with the Jeffries, Winburns and others who are Eastern Sioux, also found in Whitley Co.
There was no census category for ‘Indian’ earlier and being non-white, they were ennumerated as mulatto and black. They were also sometimes listed as whites.
The marriage date and date of death are for Benjamin.
James and Amelia moved from Whitley Co., Ind up to Emmet Co., Mich about 1878.
Bill
Thank you Bill,
I’ve been looking through this world of information on this site and saw the picture under “The “other” Blackfoot Indian” that is labeled Jones/Smith Family of Indiana. Do you know who that is a picture of? And of course is that among the family I’ve been speaking of?
I don’t know the name of the person in the photo so can’t say.
Between Va and Ind, Benjamin Jones was in Gallia Co., Oh (county seat is Gallipolis) on the Ohio River, which is where James and Amelia were probably born.
Bill
That’s correct. James and Amelia were born in Ohio. Do you happen to have information on Britton Jone’s parents?
My mother said that she was able to link the family back to Whitley Co. but did not have any documentation that they were a part of the Eastern Sioux tribe…do you? If so, where could I find that? You have been a great help. I hope I am not bothering you. !
Rheanna,
First,
From the 1850 Whitley Co., Ind Census; 9 October; p.508B & p.509A;
821, 845:
Benjamin JONES, 65, male, – , $-, Va.
Winnaford…….., 59, female, Va.
Lucinda…………, 30, f, Va.
Benjamin C……, 22, m, Oh.
Mary E…………., 20, f, Oh.
JAMES………….., 18, m, Oh.
822, 846:
Brinton JONES, 35, m, farmer, $600, Va.
Susan…………, 22, f, Va.
Isaah…………., 5, m, Ind.
Alexander……., 2, m, Ind.
Brinton and Susan appear to be too young to be James’s parents and James is listed in the household of Benjamin and Winifred, Brinton’s parents (? seems so) .
Brinton is old enough to be James’s father but Susan isn’t old enough to be James’s mother.
This age difference between Brinton & Susan & James remains consistent throughout the records I have and makes it appear that Brinton is probably James’s brother instead of his father…. Due to a process of elimination among the JONESes in 1850 Whitley compared to 1840, all are most likely to be descendants of Benjamin and Winifred, therefore the conclusion that Brinton and James are sons of Benjamin and Winifred.
Have you found anything that contradicts this?
Bill
I didn’t even catch that…. So, after a little digging, yes, James and Brinton are brothers. Apparently, their grandfather (Benjamin’s dad) was also named Brinton. So the older Brinton is the one we don’t have much info on. What we know is that this older Brinton was a soldier in the Revolutionary war. That’s it.
Also, the historical society sent my mother information about the family. They could not determine who was black and who was Indian or if they were Black-Indians. There is documentation that they fought in court about paying the state the $500 Free Negroes and Mullatos, servants and slaves bond. They won their case. Any info on that?
Rheanna,
I’ve tried to email you twice using the email function on this page, but I don’t know if it is working. We have a fair amount of information on this family from the time they were in Greensville Co., Virginia, to their move to Greene Co., Ohio, to their arrival in Smith township of Whitley county, including their problems with the county court over the bond, and the later school controversy.
If you will email me at the tribal office at obsn@mebtel.net I will be happy to share the info with you. Apparently you have some info already, and there’s no sense giving you what you already have.
Forest
Forest,
Thank you for your interest. I have emailed you, but just in case, my email is: rheannabalch@gtlakes.com
Go ahead and email what you have and I will compare it to our records.
This is exciting! Thanks again!
Are the names of Britton/Brinton Jones Sr.’s other children known?
Besides Benjamin, the only one that I have is Edmund Jones, which came from the Register of Free Persons of Colour in Greensville County, 1803 – 1832.
Edmund Jones (son of Britton Jones) free born of a yellow complexion about 35 years of age six feet two inches high (in shoes) he has mark on the right wrist a mole on his right cheek freckled face by occupation a farmer. Edmund’s entry wasn’t numbered, but he was listed after No. 151 (January 3d, 1826), Jesse Watkins, and before No. 152, Dolly Stewart.
Britton Jones free born of yellowish complexion about sixty two years old 5 feet 10 ¼ inches high in shoes his nose pitted with the small pox & his head bald. Registered on April 1, 1825 – No. 140.
Benjamin Jones free born of yellowish complexion between 35 & 40 years old 5 feet 9 1/8 inches high in shoes a small mole on his left cheek and a small scar on his right wrist (his head, a slight grey), by occupation, a planter no scars perceivable on his hands or face. Registered on April 7, 1825 – No. 143.
Winney Jones free born of yellowish complexion between thirty and thirty five years old 5 feet 4 ½ inches high in shoes. A small mole on her left cheek and a small scar on lip right ?, by occupation a weaver & her 6 children viz. Lucinda about 14 years old – had a small scar over her left eye. Daughter Eliza Jane, 9 years old has a scar on the left wrist occasioned by a burn. Daughter Sally Ann nearly 3 years old, girls, and Britton Anderson 12 years old next December has a small scar over his left eye. Son Peterson Douglas 7 years old next month, and son Jack Anderson 5 years old in June next, has a mark on his right hand & a mole under his right eye, boys. Registered on April 2, 1825 – No. 142.
Stacey
Are the names of Britton/Brinton Jones Sr.’s other children known?
Besides Benjamin, the only one that I have is Edmund Jones, which came from the Register of Free Persons of Colour in Greensville County, 1803 – 1832.
Edmund Jones (son of Britton Jones) free born of a yellow complexion about 35 years of age six feet two inches high (in shoes) he has mark on the right wrist a mole on his right cheek freckled face by occupation a farmer. Edmund’s entry wasn’t numbered, but he was listed after No. 151 (January 3d, 1826), Jesse Watkins, and before No. 152, Dolly Stewart.
Britton Jones free born of yellowish complexion about sixty two years old 5 feet 10 ¼ inches high in shoes his nose pitted with the small pox & his head bald. Registered on April 1, 1825 – No. 140.
Benjamin Jones free born of yellowish complexion between 35 & 40 years old 5 feet 9 1/8 inches high in shoes a small mole on his left cheek and a small scar on his right wrist (his head, a slight grey), by occupation, a planter no scars perceivable on his hands or face. Registered on April 7, 1825 – No. 143.
Winney Jones free born of yellowish complexion between thirty and thirty five years old 5 feet 4 ½ inches high in shoes. A small mole on her left cheek and a small scar on lip right ?, by occupation a weaver & her 6 children viz. Lucinda about 14 years old – had a small scar over her left eye. Daughter Eliza Jane, 9 years old has a scar on the left wrist occasioned by a burn. Daughter Sally Ann nearly 3 years old, girls, and Britton Anderson 12 years old next December has a small scar over his left eye. Son Peterson Douglas 7 years old next month, and son Jack Anderson 5 years old in June next, has a mark on his right hand & a mole under his right eye, boys. Registered on April 2, 1825 – No. 142.
Stacey
Britton’s children include:
Sarah 1787
Benjamin 1788
Edmund 1791
Winney 1792
Peggy 1797
Willie 1786
I don not know if there are any others. This is all I have found.
Thanks Rheanna for the reply. If that list came from Heinegg’s website that was one of the reasons why I was asking. He lists Winney as Britton’s daughter when she was a daughter-in-law. (Winney was actually Winifred, Benjamin’s wife.) It makes me wonder how accurate the rest of the names are.
Stacey
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