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Hi Tom,
Most of my threads have been under geneology, but I frequent the other forums delving into the mass of info on Saponi history etc. I now live in Minnesota, but my sisters, aunt, uncle, and cousins (materal) still live in Montana. My Uncle and aunt live in the Polson/Ronan area and my sisters in the Eastern part of the state Plentywood and Forsyth. I am thankful for all the research you all do to help us in our searches. Thanks for the welcome.
Shirley
Ok, I’ve been trying to read all the old posts when I can. I’ve been working my way through them and am still a little confused about why the Eastern Blackfoot isn’t connected to the regular Blackfoot? Is it a matter of language? or traditions? or location or? Couldn’t the Eastern Blackfoot have migrated to the mid-west centuries ago, intermarried into the plains tribes??
I’m trying hard to understand this part of my ancestry and with all the tribes merging into other tribes and then those merging again and then mixing with other nationalities, etc.. I’m just a little overwhelmed and a little depressed at this point and find myself saying what the freak is the use of trying to find out who I am. It seems an impossible dream to me at this point.
It seems that there has been so many merges that we’ll never know who we are! We are a virtual Indian Hienz 57 !! And that leaves me feeling more alone in my search than ever before. Anyone else ever felt like this. And can you please explain the difference in the Eastern Blackfoot and the ‘regular’ Blackfoot in terms that I can understand.
Thanks.. Barb
Barb:
I am not sure that they were not once connected. There are some threads that indicate some stories of long-ago migrations. Certainly, there is documentation that some western Sioux tribes could speak to and understand the eastern Sioux tribes. That alone says something.
Techteach
The “regular’ Blackfoot are Algonquin. They speak an entirely different language and have a different culture. Also, the Algonquin were often enemies at various points of various Siouan groups.
But there IS a Blackfoot group we may be related to, the Sihisapa of the Teton Sioux. ‘Sihisapa’ means “blackfoot” in Lakota. ‘Issi asepa hiye’ means ‘blackened foot’ in Tutelo (Saponi). The town of Saxapahaw, NC is a corruption of this word. It may just be a reference to people who did a lot of farming, since slash and burn techniques were used to clear fields prior to planting.
Thank you Linda for making that clear for me. I was confused about it.
As always, you are a wealth of information 🙂
Hay everybody,I am looking for the tribe I belong to,I am part of the crump family, and as for as I know we have always been in Missouri.
I’m also looking for the closest reservation to me in southeast missouri
George:
Do you have the Blackfoot ID in your family? Several folks from MO have this ID and are on this forum. The Blackfoot we are referring to have their basis in very old (circa 1700s) eastern tribes who may have stayed east or moved west. There is no reservation, however, we know of several instances of the term Blackfoot Indian being the cause of location names, one in DE and one in Indiana.
This ID is in my family who went to IA. Your surname is a surname in my hometown in IA.
You might try to post your family lines to the genealogy section. That might connect you with folks on this forum.
And welcome aboard.
Techteach
I am a black man and I was told that many African Slaves were runing away from the salve owners..They join the Indians and had kids with the Indians and became family ties with them. I also was told that that name was created because the Indians foot wear was painted black black. Another was the Indian community was becoming populated with mix black Indians. Many stories were told about the Blackfoot, but hold some true facts. The Indians have lose many true identies but hold on to their culture. All through the world races have lose their roots, but not like the Indians. The land of the United States hold the riches of the True Indian Accestory, and I hope to find it. I looking for my Indian Accestry more than the African Accestry. True beliefs, strenght, warrior, and leadership is there. We that have Indian accestors are should be proud people. I am proud of all you.
AMajid
I know this is a pretty old thread, but I’ve been in recent contact with a registered Cherokee Indian from Missouri. I was searching for info on my Blackfoot ID “Mayo”, and joined a Black Dutch group. This person was VERY hesitant to talk with me because of my screenname. But with both of us conversing with the desire to solidify our roots, he has eventually become more open to me now because our surnames match almost to a “T”. Guess what? His people originated right here in VA where I live and in NC. He finally believes that we are definitely related.
So I believe that there has been so many joining and mixing of tribes throughtout time, that we cannot say that we are of just one tribe from any one particular location. My ggrandmother was a Pamunkey Indian and my ggrandfather was Mattaponi (or viceversa). But the two tribes dealt with each other all the time that it’s understandable that they intermarried. These two reservations are not very far from each other in King William Co. VA. Anyways……
Just my 2 cents.:cool:
2 cents… or is it 3 or 4 cents?
I recognize our genealogy was ‘split’ way back when
and that we may never put humpty-dumpty together again
but that does not mean we should disregard facts in evidents
(s.i.c. – poetic license)
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