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hi everyone
in reading the responses in this forum i would like to share my own expirernces as i am also a mixed person . I only learned about the Saopni after starting to do research on my family history . My family was told that my g-grandmother was half Cherokee and half Blackfoot and once i researched and founf out the the Montana Blackfoot was always there i started to Question where the Blackfoot id came from in my family since this side of my family was from Maryland and Virginia so i googled east coast Blackfoot and found this site. It was only then that i learned aout the Saponi tribe and history and that they also carried the Blackfoot id .
Althought i haven’t found any documents to connect her to the Saponi or other tribes yet because i am still in the beginning stages of my research i now know that i should be looking here and not in Montana for my ancestors .
Hi, at least you are on the right track. Can anybody point me in the right direction as far as research is concerned? Finding out about my Native American ancestry is just as important to me as my African ancestry.
By the way, my grandtwins who are almost 5 yrs. old, were in a school play about Thanksgiving. To make a long story short, their teacher referred to the Native American people of that time as “Indians”. Now, I don’t pretend to know everything, but I thought the word “Indian” was frowned upon in the Native American community. Please, someone set me straight on this.
Thank you.
Actually, when I was out on Pine Ridge Reservation the week before last, they called themselves Indians.
Techteach
My wife is full blood Indian, tribal member and all. In the past 16 years, she has used the term “Native American” once – when we were obtaining our marriage license. Otherwise, she refers to herself as Indian. I NEVER hear the phrase “Native American” at the powwows or traditional gatherings, either.
I think it’s fairly universal that if you are talking of people from a specific tribe to refer to them by that name, such as the people of Pine Ridge, or the Oglala. Siouan speaking tribes don’t like to be called Sioux but by the name of their nation, Rosebud, Winnebago, etc.
I do remember a few years back that for a while “Indian” was frowned upon. Now it seems to have just been turned into one of the many ways to criticize Columbus. Out this way, Indian has been most used by tribal members I’ve known. There is the popular NDN reference.
As a general designator, you won’t insult too many people with Indian, Native American, or American Indian. If someone doesn’t like a specific term they will let you know then you can apologize.:)
Wachinika wrote: I think it’s fairly universal that if you are talking of people from a specific tribe to refer to them by that name, such as the people of Pine Ridge, or the Oglala. Siouan speaking tribes don’t like to be called Sioux but by the name of their nation, Rosebud, Winnebago, etc.
I do remember a few years back that for a while “Indian” was frowned upon. Now it seems to have just been turned into one of the many ways to criticize Columbus. Out this way, Indian has been most used by tribal members I’ve known. There is the popular NDN reference.
As a general designator, you won’t insult too many people with Indian, Native American, or American Indian. If someone doesn’t like a specific term they will let you know then you can apologize.:)
I too have heard most refer to their particular tribe, Santee, Oglala, etc. We all know the term Indian goes back to Columbus and Native American, well America was named after Amerigo Vespucci an Italian merchant:confused: Neither term is really a description of those native to this land. I guess one could ask the individual/s what they prefer.:)
Hi Native 1. My Sioux-blackfoot friend scoffed at the term Native American. She hated it. She always referred to herself as Indian.
Hi, my name is Matthew Griffin. I am looking for my BlackFoot? ancesters. My Great-Grandmother was named Grace Winktempeck; I have been told she was 100% BlackFoot. She lived in the Choctaw Nation, Oklahoma. The town name was Tammie. I was happy to learn of my heritage until I saw that the BlackFoot Tribes lived in Montana and Canada. I thought to myself, “How did a Montana Tribe get to Oklahoma?” I was puzzled. Then, I saw an article about the Sioux having a subset or something calling themselves BlackFoot. My question is this= “Am I a Blackfoot from Montana or am I a BlackFoot from the Sioux Nation?”:confused:
Hi matthew72, I ask myself the same question. My great grandfather was of Caucasian decendent. He looked Caucasian, but during my reseach of Blackfoot for a report I did for my college skills course I found out my he was also Blackfoot. I understand the history of Blackfoot, but it still leave me with the question;was he Native Blackfoot or just called Blackfoot?
Matthew:
The folks on this forum with Blackfoot stories in their backgrounds are not from the western Blackfoot. Our ancestors came from east from an earlier time period. My Blackfoot ancestor was from western PA, born in 1814.
Techteach
Yes, please see our article at http://www.saponitown.com/Blackfoot.htm
matthew72 wrote: Hi, my name is Matthew Griffin. I am looking for my BlackFoot? ancesters. My Great-Grandmother was named Grace Winktempeck; I have been told she was 100% BlackFoot. She lived in the Choctaw Nation, Oklahoma. The town name was Tammie. I was happy to learn of my heritage until I saw that the BlackFoot Tribes lived in Montana and Canada. I thought to myself, “How did a Montana Tribe get to Oklahoma?” I was puzzled. Then, I saw an article about the Sioux having a subset or something calling themselves BlackFoot. My question is this= “Am I a Blackfoot from Montana or am I a BlackFoot from the Sioux Nation?”:confused:
I just found out Grace’s last name was in fact WINKLEPECK. I got the spelling wrong from my grandmother. She is old and her memory is not what it used to be.
That’s certainly a unique name, which we haven’t heard here before. Have you tried doing any genealogical digging on that name? I don’t think Oklahoma has come up often before, either. Try using our search feature and see what you find.
It could, theoretically, be accounted for if someone with that ID got caught up in the Removal in 1830 and landed in OK. If your Blackfoot ID is connected with the one we’re researching here, that would be the simplest explanation.
Hello forum
I am orginally from North Carolina and my family and I am wanting to know some history about our ancestory. My grandad died before my mother was born and I was unable to know about my family history. My mother was 1/2 Haliwa-Saponi ancestory yet I have only her record of attending school in college as her only record of her claiming her Haliwa-Saponi ancestory. My family would like to know about the history of the CAUDLE people in Brinkleyville(holliester area) and ways we can claim our ancestory rights as 1/4 Haliwa-Saponi tribe?My grandad was Samuel Caudle and great granddad Limuel Caudle.My cousins are related to Richardson and Lynch.Please any info would be helpful.
B BLESSED
I’m not sure if this is the policy, but I’ve heard buzz that you could be the chief’s grandson, but if you moved away, you wouldn’t be Haliwa anymore. I hope that was just gossip and it’s not true, but I’ve heard enough of it that it may be a good idea to steele yourself for something all those lines. Good luck.
Look up Jade, (Buffalowoman) here on the forum. She’s got Haliwa roots too.
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