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well I think that your quesation maybe did the Carolina parakeet get exterminated due to human pressures, the answer would be “yes”, but how and why in the various areas may be different.
There was a hybrid bird that needed one Carolina parakeet parent bred to another to create a song bird for the “rich courts” of New Orleans, exactly what the other species was I am not sure but like the Ivory billed wood pecker you never know, we still may have either a bird or for sure it’s DNA and like many other victums of humans playing God , one day some inventive person may bring our sacred species back.
As for the use by Seminoles, I really would not bet against it. I have seen many references to the use of this birds images and body parts etc.
I’d like to see the use of simalar feathers by the Eastern Blackfoot people.
Thanx for the great question, happy Holidays.
Tom
What type of bird would have similar feathers, and where could we get them? Is there something commercially available that would be similar? Or, maybe I should ask, what that is commercially available would be the most similar? I made one fringe of goose feathers, about 3″ long, on the bottom of a skirt. It looked nice. It’s the usual technique for making a dressed feather, suspended from sinew, if you know what I’m talking about, with a bead or two around the quill of the feather. I have another skirt to fringe with turquoise and salmon colors predominating. Talking about the Carolina parakeet something flashed that the colors may be what I’m looking for, for this skirt. I need straight feathers, like tail feathers, for this purpose.
Hello yes there are simalar species out there that have readily available feathers, not all of these small birds are endangered and some are actually out lawed as pets, the Monks parakeet is one of them, and it is very close to the Carolina bird.
It looks asthough it ( Monk) might fill the void left by the our bird, since it can tolerate cold and live on available seeds etc.
Do a small search using the latin names and then a search looking for that bird (that replaces our bird) in a pet breeders directory, avairy etc.
I can get certain feathers up here and the bird keepers are really helpful if you ask them carefully.
Anyway, good luck, let me know how things go.
Tom
Here’s some interesting pages re. the Monks or Quaker parakeet, some where back in the first posts one of the sites that I had looked at mentioned that this latter bird could be a replacement bird for the Carolina parakeet., just how closely related these two species are I am not totally sure, however from an art or perhaps art historical point of view I think that it is safe to say that the use of Monks feathers are the closest that we are going to get to finding a replacement feather to be used in traditional forms by the eastern tribes.
The link provided has some really interesting material especially listing wild Monk populations.
http://monkparakeet.com/alt/or.htm
http://invasions.bio.utk.edu/invaders/monk.html
A neat article with image;http: //www.newtownbee.com/Features.asp?s=Features-2005-12-08-13-35-58p1.htm
Invader of the month;http: //invasions.bio.utk.edu/invaders/monk.html
“The best” of Invaders of the Month..
http://quakerville.net/feral/index.asp
This site is great for nesting articles and images, worth a look and a chuckle.
here’s more…http://quakerville.net/feral/index.asp
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Was the Carolina parakeet treated the same way in every spot it lived?
I got the feeling that what did the Carolina parakeet in was it’s lack of immunities to some microbe that finally did it in.
Where did you read that?
From what I can figure out, most of the populations were thought of in the same way, just a pest., but like everything some folks may have valued it .
iam not sure about all the history, it’s not all contained in one web site.
What i would like to see, is some undertaking mabe by the NGS to rebreed this bird through dna introduction I think that it would be easier to do than say remake a mammoth like they were talking about.
I don’t remember, it was on one of the links that came up when I googled “Quaker Parakeets” or “Monk Parakeets.” It does make sense, though, the populations were threatened by loss of habitat and human predation (it was thought to be a danger to corn crops). But it was that lowly microbes that it is thought, did the bird in ultimately. If this is true, it would probably make it impractical to resurrect, if it’s only going to succumb again, unless maybe crossing it with the Quaker would give it a new lease on life.
Hi, I am no expert by any means , but I remember reading they are thought to have been hunted into extinction because their feathers were highly valued to adorn women’s hats. Of course I don’t know for a fact if that is true.I read they always stayed in big flocks and were easy to find. It seems hard for me to believe that some couldn’t have survived deep in the forest so maybe the microbe theory is right. I think it would be so great if they could somehow be resurrected and once again the Southeast had its beatiful native parrots back. Not to mention the Passenger Pigeon too. Who knows maybe it’ll happen? Thanks, Jeff in STL
here is a link to one of the neatest posters that I have seen in a very long time, I could not get a grip on the price but might be worth checking out.
What ever the interest is in this little bird is I have no idea but it appears to be spreading!
http://www.hmtarts.com/poster.htm
Hi Tom,
Beautiful poster. 🙂
It’s just a guess, but maybe the renewed interest is just that there were so many of them and the peoples must have used their feathers in their daily lives for either dress or ceremonial reasons.
Barb
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