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Aubrey,
After getting so frustrated last night, I walked away from it for a bit and had a cup of coffee and thought. I came up with the same idea as you. The families must have been close and it was probably hard for an outsider of tell where one family ended and the other began. My grandmother lived next door to me as a child and I spent more time with her than at my parents. As a matter of fact, I’ve always said she was more of a mother to me than my “real” mother. As I’ve gotten older, I know this to be true! My grandmother is the person that instilled me with the “old time” morals and values!
Jim
tarcarion;
The same applies here with me and I can assure you the Nancy Hensley Cole my G-Mother was more of a mother to me than my birth mother. Could go into details but probably should save it for another time.
As always
Aubrey G Cole
My Grandmother was born in 1889. That would be my mother’s mother and my dad’s mother also. I was born in the home house so my Grandma Yancey was always there, then later my Grandma Inscoe came to live with us. My mother was always in charge of me except when in the fields working and there was never a time there were not 3 generations in the house–one time 4 generations when my GGreat Grandfather Buchanan lived with us til he died. How much children of these last generations have missed and could explain why so many have no moral basis and character upon which to build their lives and form significant relationships. We hear many grandparents today brag about their independence and ability to be on their own . They do not spend any significant time or contribute in any great way to their grandchildren. My wife and I have deliberately committed ourselves in the other direction, taking an active role in relating to our grandchildren (9) at present. No trip to the Carribean, Las Vegas could compare to that phone call where you hear the music of “PaPa” coming from that young voice who wants to talk to you and share what is important to them at the moment. Then comes that really special moment when they have made up their own title for you and every once and awhile they say “Poppie” you know what? You know you are really special then and that they are about to share something that’s for them is the most important thing in the world. Then they ask for Grandma to share with her.
How sad that even our older generations have become so self centered and selfish that they would rob their own inheritance from their own . On this mother’s day how thankful we are for Mother’s and Grandmothers who have rocked the cradle well. My Grandmother’s didn’t go “Out of Business” when their children were grown and married. They were just beginning so they wore well the title “GRAND” Mother and we were fortunate our mothers had learned well from them. Ed
Mr. Ed Yancey;
You are ever so correct and I can say That I sure do miss my g-mother and would give anything only to talk to her one more time, I was standing at her bedside holding her hand when she pssed away.
I for one am not of the new generation and stay in contact wih my children and my g-children and 2 g-grand children, most of hem live within 30 miles of my house . My wife and I are raising 1 g-son and getting ready to take on 3 more to raise, I can only hope and pray that the man above will give me the strength to accomplish tis every loving task.
One day a couple of years ago my g-son who lives with us and myself had been out running around and on the way back home he said, pawpaw thank you for a wonderful day, I almost went into tears. He knows that he is loved and we are doing our best to teach him morals and to love and respect himself. He is not a spoiled brat or anything close to being one either, just last night we took him to his first track meet , he is in 1st grade and was running the 100 meter relay and broad jump , he got ribbon for 3 and 4th place and he knows that we are as proud of him as if he had reicieved 1st place.
Aubrey G Cole
tarcarion;
The Jefferson Cole you mentioned in previous thread is William Jefferson Cole son of John (Jck) and Margaret mallet Cole born1846 Lee Co Vaor Ky died 12 march 1891 Rose Hill, Lee Co Va. He had sister and bro’s by name of Richard, Elizabeth Eliza ,Emanuel,Harrison,John M,Elizabeth,Anderson J,and Elmira cole.
as always
Aubrey G Cole
Aubrey, Bill, Ed, & All,
Looks like we’re all in agreement on the grandmother issue! I live in my grandmother’s “homeplace”, and there’s not a day that goes by that I don’t think of her. Not a day that I don’t miss her. I garden the same earth that her and my grandfather dug in. Even some of the same perennials that she planted come up every spring. Ed, my wife and I are doing the same with our grandson. Anytime either of us is not working, our grandson is at our house and not at daycare. I get off at 8 AM this morning and he’s coming to spend the day. We’ll take a nap together in the afternoon! I’m passing on to him what my grandmother gave to me!
Jim
Hello Jim , Bill and everyone else;
Boy I sure am glad that there are more than myself that still believe in raising kids the old fashion way. By the way Jim I just e-mailed you some photo’s let me know how they turn out
as always
Aubrey G Cole
Here is a record of Catawba Scott’s that married into my Cherokee line in
the Lower Towns.
From: CHN 51 Cherokee Citizenship Feb. 24, 1871 – April 22, 1884
Cherokee Vol. 462B
Page 45 Case # 97
Benjamin Brackett} Clamining Citizenship
VS } Before Commission
Cherokee Nation } on Citizenship
Tahlequah, June 2, 1879
Your petitioner respectfully represents that he is a Cherokee by blood and at present residing in the Cherokee Nation and there fore petitions your Honorable court to be admitted to the rights of citizenship in the Cherokee Nation.
Benjamin Brackett
Statement of Francis Latta, who being sworn on part of claiment says:
I will be nintysix years of age the 5th day of next month
I was well acquainted with John Wilkerson in the old Cherokee Nation. He was regarded as a Cherokee citizenship.
I knew his mother well and she belonged to the Wolf family (clan).
It has been about seventy-five years ago I first got acquainted with John Wilkerson.
John Wilkerson and his mother talked the Cherokee language. His mother spoke broken English.
John Wilkerson lived when I first knew him near Maker Jack Cove on the Tennessee River.
John Wilkerson had seven children by my sister and his other wife I think had five.
He had a first wife in South carolina and two after he came to the old Cherokee Nation. My sister and mother.
John Wilkerson came from South Carolina to the Old Cherokee Nation at lest he said he did.
He had sons named Uriah and William Wilkerson. Nelly Wilkerson was said to be a sister to Uriah and William Wilkerson.
I do not know how long after John Wilkerson came into the old nation that his sons Uriah and Wm came but the sons came afterwards.
Wm, Uriah and nelly were the children of John Wilkerson by the South Carolina wife.
John Wilkerson’s Cherokee wife named Cootiah by whom I think he had five children named Aaron, Dick, George and James.*
I was acquainted most with William and Uriah Wilkerson after they came into the Old Cherokee Nation. I never heard their rights to Cherokee Citizenship disputed there.
I was present when Uriah’s house was burned. There was no corn to cut down by soldiers. It was cold up there.
I am the mother of Allen (?Tatton?) He was a _____ by _____?
Uriah, Williams house was burned.
John Wilkerson’s children by my sister were named Hyram, Jefferson, Lewis, Lydia, Tom, George, Linda
I am a Catawba__ by blood. My father was also. I was born in North carolina near the Catawba lands. The Catawba lands may have join both North & South Carolina.
I do not speak the Cherokee Language. I do understand it much.
I knew John Wilkerson’s Mother. She lived near Macker Jack Cove. Her name was Mollie. Claimed white and Cherokee blood.
During the Revolution War John Wilkerson’s father went to nintysix South Carolina and afterward his wife went down and they remained there until their children were grown. Two of whom there married .**
I neither knew claimant, his father or mother.
Old man Wilkerson got mad with the widow and had her house burned,. He and the widow’s sister were going to be married. A__? married a man named Hubbard. The other of Nellie Wilkerson I suppose was a white woman. Hubbard I suppose was a white man
June 2, 1879 Francis Latta
J. A. Sialis, Clerk
Note:
Francis is Martha Frances Latty nee Scott b.abt 1790 m. John Latty b. 1758
Cowboy —-Note–Macker Jack Cove is Nick-A-Jack a chickamauga town.
“Note:
Francis is Martha Frances Latty nee Scott b.abt 1790 m. John Latty b. 1758″
According to the first statement in this June 2, 1879 affidavit, she was born July 5, 1783. (“will be nintysix years of age the 5th day of next month”)
Interesting. Scott is a name found in the Portugeuse settlement in Northampton that I’ve heard is considered one of the closest ties to Fort Christanna (Saponi).
All,
This may be a well known site the experienced Saponitown inhabitants, but to newbies like myself, this following link has helped to give a good general overview of all the tribes of the Eastern Piedmont and what they were experiencing from the early seventeenth century and the Fort Christanna period. I started with the “Background” link and I’m still reading some of the other info. http://www.ibiblio.org/rla/dig/
Jim
slwoods wrote: I saw that you could look for certain Indians in the book you have on the Catawba. I am researching the Scott family from North Carolina who are said to be Catawba. I have an Ishom Scott born @1775 Va who lived in Sumter and Marlboro County of SC. He is said to be Indian.
Thanks
Sandra
my e-mail is slwoods@excite.com
I am looking for information on the Marsh (Pamunkey) side of my family that is said to have married into the Catawba tribe. ANy help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tess
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