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I’m back from Gate City! Bonnie is the best of his sisters! Looks just like Arlene (above).
William Bill Guy was born in 1889, his parents were Ele? C. Guy and Hannah Guy. He was born in Scott Co. in an area called “Slant” which is between Ft. Blackmore and Dungannan. He is buried in the “Old” Boatright cementery as this is the farm they lived on, and who he worked for. He died in 1953.
He was a widow when he married Arlene, he was 36, she was 22. They were married on July 22, 1924. He had a son from the first marriage, Walt Guy.
I have a copy of the marriage certificate, and a copy of Bonnie’s birth certificate. The last document lists (incorrectly) her mother as Arlene Sexton. Arlene would go to Sexton Mountain to visit relatives.
Bonnie is sharp as a tack! The nieces said they will pick her brain in conversation for me. They would like the month and day of Bill’s birth and death for the tombstone.
Linda J.,
This is worse than brambles when you’re trying to get to high ground!
I’ve only got a William Thomas Guy in 1920 Scott and 1910 Washington, born 15 March 1888 in Darkridge, NC (living in Hilton Twp per a Scott County WWI Draft Registration Card), who had a wife and 4 kids in 1917, none of them named Walter per the 1920 census. This William’s father was James.
The problem is that the only other Guys in Scott Co don’t even come that close. Wish you could make out his father’s name better. There is a Hannah Guy in Scott Co but her husbands name is William A. Guy, (also) b. NC. So, we’re still looking.
Bill
Well I couldn’t get much information from her.
She remembers them working for the people who owned the cemetery where Bill is buried. The people would spread paper on the floor so they didn’t walk on the floor when they came in for a drink of water.
He was born and raised in Skank, VA. This is a little place just outside of Dungannon, nothing there but a few houses.
She stated he never left Scott county, he also was Native American, they went often to visit family on Sexton mountain.
So Bill you have the right line for them in the post above. Anything else has to be found in Scott Co. if he never left it.
I also have a good picture of Bonnie and Willard together if your interested. Bonnie looks just like Arlene!
Linda
I sorry to report that Bonnie Gladys Guy Cook passed away Oct. 19, 2006 at the age of 77. She was born in Dungannon, VA Sept. 29, 1929.
Mother: Arlene Collins Guy, Father: William Bill Guy
She was a very loving, sweet, quiet woman, and will be sadly missed. She looked just like her mother.
Howdy y’all….I just noticed this thread and looked in my files and links log and thought it might be helpful or prudent to list the following Wise Co, VA info in as much as it relates to the folks that Bill made mention of in hsi extensive post (above):
The following Wise Co, VA MARRIAGES that pertain are (in no particular order), taken from Wise County COLLINS MGS transcribed by Joyce Wallace from the Wise Co, VA Genweb site: (spelled as transcribed)
1.Patrick COLLINS (s/o Enoch C. COLLINS & L.M. COLLINS) md Callie COLLINS (d/o Isaac COLLINS & L.M. COLLINS) on 10/3/1908. *Note: weird huh? do these “spouses” have the same mother but different fathers?*
2. Washington COLLINS (s/o Enoch COLLINS & Ludema COLLINS) md Casby GIBSON (d/o Workman GIBSON & Eliza GIBSON) on 11/9/1899. *Note: I have a GEORGE Workman GIBSON in my files who was md to Letitia COLLINS in 1883; she being the d/o Perry COLLINS & Anna BOWLIN.*
3. Washington COLLINS (DO above) md Manerva Jane GIBSON (d/o Larkin GIBSON & Patsy GIBSON) on 12/23/1888.
*Note: Larkin GIBSON was the s/o David GIBSON & Rebecca SEXTON; his wife Martha “Patsy” GIBSON was the d/o Perry Gibson & Anna BOWLIN…their dau Manerva is in the 1880 census listed as Nerva and shows as b: 1873.*
4. Winfield COLLINS (s/o Enoch & Rinda both COLLINS) md Mattie NICKELS (parents UNK) on 11/10/1918.
5. Chanie COLLINS (d/o Isaac COLLINS & Mouring GIBSON) md James GIBSON (s/o Mitch & Julia both GIBSON) on 9/15/1911.
6. Charlie COLLINS (s/o DO above) md Rubie GIBSON (d/o George & May both GIBSON) on 9/23/1911.
7. Laura Belle COLLINS (d/o DO above) md Joseph GIBSON (s/o Joel & Winie both GIBSON) on 11/19/1897.
8. M.C. COLLINS (s/o DO above, mother listed as Mornie) md Kate ELLIS (d/o George & Mag both GIBSON) on 10/26/1907.
9. McKinley COLLINS (s/o DO above , mother listed as Mourinny) md Reathey GIBSON (d/o George & may both GIBSON) on 6/30/1917.
10. Scott COLLINS (s/o DO above, mother listed as Morning) md Dora GIBSON (d/o George & Mag both GIBSON) on 5/3/1906.
11. Grover COLLINS (s/o Pat & Callie both COLLINS) md Oakey COLLINS (d/o Charlie & Martha both COLLINS) on 12/23/1918.
12. Maudie COLLINS (d/o Pat & Laura Nell both COLLINS) md Phillip SEXTON (s/o Henry & Caroline both SEXTON) on 5/24/1917.
13. Maurning COLLINS (d/o John & Sinda both SEXTON) md Reuben GIBSON (s/o Jerry & Elizabeth both GIBSON) on 10/17/1909.
14. Phillip COLLINS (s/o Pat & Callie both COLLINS) md Edith THACKER (d/o Henry THACKER & Lizzie CRAIGER) on 7/17/1937.
Also worthy of mention is a Birth index I located from Wise county that reads as follows:
*Eli H. COLLINS , male, born alive, June 8, 1859, Parents: father: UNK, mother: Mourning COLLINS.
Liek I said…I hope this helps sort some things out to some small measure…I have some of these folks also on my tree but obviously need to add a few more eh!?! Keep up the good work folks. Blessings~~~~Laurie
Bill Childs wrote: [Discussion on this family was brought to this section from a thread at http://www.saponitown.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1353]
Linda J.,
As a starting point, I’ll list Bill & Arlene Guy in 1930 to show that Arlene was also known as “Irene”, their children proving this is who she is:
1930 Scott Co., Va Census – ED2 DeKalb District; 22 April; Sheet 11B, visit 220, 220; (all persons and their parents were born in Va unless otherwise noted):
GUY, Bill; Head; m, W, 38, m, 21; Farming.
……, IRENE; wife; f, W, 28, m, 20.
……, Grover; son; m, W, 4.
……, Charlie; son; m, W, 3.
……, Bonnie; dau; f, W, 8/12.
Bill m’d at age 21, 17 years earlier than 1930, so this is probably his second marriage. “Irene”/Arlene m’d at age 20, only 8 years earlier in about 1922.
(I’ll post the GUY line later.)
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Arlene said she was a COLLINS.
1920 Wise Co., Va Census – ED169 Gladesville District, Tacoma (town); 9 March; pg. 107A; visit 8, 8:
COLLINS, Patrick; Head; m, W, 50, marr’d. Miner(?), Coal Mine.
………….., Callie; Wife; f, W, 29, marr’d.
………….., IREENA; dau; f, W, 18, single.*******
………….., Phillip; son; m, W, 4, single.
Arlene/Irene’s “sister” Callie may not have been born by 1920 or she regarded her stepmother Callie as a sister. I haven’t found Pat’s family in 1930 so can’t say for sure.
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1910 Scott Co., Va Census – ED69 Floyd District, P.O.: Estillville; 22 April; pg.91A; visit 39, 39:
COLLINS, Patrick; Head; m, W, 35; m2, 2; Farmer.
………….., Callie; Wife; f, W, 19; m1, 2, 0/0.
………….., Grover; son; m, W, 10.
………….., Maudie; dau; f, W, 8.
………….., Arlene; dau; f, W, 7.*******
This is Pat’s 2nd marriage and Callie’s first and she has had no children so she’s not Arlene’s mother. Pat and Callie have been marr’d for 2 years.
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Suspend any judgement that you knew anything about “Race”.
1900 Scott Co., Va Census; ED62 DeKalb District; 22 June; pg.202A;
Visit 275, 280 (Patrick’s parents):
COLLINS, Enoch; Head; B, m, Jan 1835; 65, m, 40; Farmer.
………….., Ludemia; Wife; B, f, Feb 1840; 60, m, 40, 4/4.
Enoch and Ludemia have been marr’d 40 years. Ludemia has had 4 children and 4 are still living.
Visit 283, 288:
COLLINS, Patrick; Head; B, m, Jan 1876, 24, m, 4; Farmer.
………….., Laura; Wife; B, f, Mar 1880, 20, m, 4, 2/2.
………….., Grover; son; B, m, June 1898, 2.
………….., Maud; dau; B, m, July 1899, 11/12.
(Pat & Laura have been marr’d 4 yrs and Laura has had 2 children. Laura is the Laura Bell that Arlene spoke of. Laura Bell must have died between 1903 and 1908.)
The following COLLINS’ households (Pat’s cousins) are listed as visit #s:
287, 292: Robert Collins; b.Jan 1879, 21, farmer.
289, 294: Marshal Collins; b.Jan 1878, 22, farmer.
289, 294: Feby (sic: Phebe) Collins, b.Aug 1843, 56, widowed.
(she is a GIBSON)
290, 295: Benton Collins; b.June 1878, 21, farmer.
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1880 Scott Co., Va Census – ED73 Floyd District; 5 June; pg.175D; visit 58, 59:
COLLINS, Enoch; Mu, m, 39; Head. farmer.
………….., Ludemia; Mu, f, 50; wife.
………….., Washington; Mu, m, 14; son.
………….., Elbert; Mu, m, 11; son.
………….., PATRICK; Mu, m, 7; son.
(Enoch and Ludemia’s ages are probably listed here incorrectly.)
(Enoch’s parents are both listed as born in Tenn, and that may be true.)
1880 Wise Co., Va Census – ED104 Lipps District; 21 June; pg.327C; (Laura Bell Collins and her parents.)
Visit 165, 165:
COLLINS, Isaac; Mu, m, 23, farmer.
………….., Mourning; Mu, f, 21, Wife.
………….., LAURA BELL; Mu, f, 1, dau.*******
(Isaac Collins marr’d Mourning SEXTON on 17 January 1878 in Scott Co., Va. More on Mourning later, but her mother and grandmother are GIBSONs and her grt-grandmother may have been also.)
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Now, hold onto your hat for one of those complicated situations that we all know well….
Parents of Isaac Collins, b.abt.1853 OR abt.1857:
1860 Scott Co., Va Census; P.O.: Estillville, Va; 4 Sept; pg.197;
Visit 1284, 1284:
Thornsbery COLLINS, 27, m, – , farmer, $0, $15.
Chaney……………….., 26, f, – .
ISAAC………………….., 7, m, – .*******
Sarah………………….., 5, f, – .
Ichabod……………….., 2, m, – .
(Thornsbery’s wife Chaney’s parents are Cyrus (“Sirius”) GIBSON, b.abt. 1815 Va; and Courtney ROSE, b.abt. 1820 Va., per the 1850 Scott Co., Va Census; pg.413B, visit 849.
Chaney’s sister Lucinda Gibson, b.abt. 1840, marr’d on 13 Feb 1858 John I. SEXTON, and are the parents of Mourning Sexton who marr’d Isaac Collins.)
Same census, Visit 1281, 1281 (Thornsbery’s and Enoch Collins parents & siblings):
John COLLINS, 50, m, – , farmer, $0, $40.
Matilda……….., 40, f, – .
Phebe…………, 20, f, – .
Elizabeth…….., 18, f, – .
Eliza……………, 16, f, – .
Martin…………., 14, m, – .
Cinda………….., 11, f, – .
Josaphine……., 8/12, f, – .
Visit 1282, 1282 (Enoch Collins and 1st wife)
Enoch COLLINS, 23, m, – , farmer, $0, $30.*******
Marinda…………, 20, f, – .
Winfield S………, 3, m, – .
Harriet………….., 1, f, – .
(I haven’t found Marinda’s family.)
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1850 Scott Co., Va Census; Western Division; 28 August; pg.421A, Visit 246, 246:
John COLLINS, 31, m, – , farmer, $0.
Matilda……….., 30(?)(50?), f, – . (age probably incorrect.)
Peggy…………., 22, f, – .
William K………, 21, m, – .
Phebe…………., 19, f, – .
THORNSBERRY.., 17, m, – .*******
ENOCH…………., 16, m, – .*******
Elizabeth………., 14, f, – .
Eliza…………….., 12, f, – .
Lucinda…………., 5, f, – .
Malinda…………., 2, f, – .
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I didn’t find any of the Collins or Gibsons in 1870, but they may be in Russell or Lee Co, Va., or Hawkins Co., Tenn.
I’ll continue working on this as time permits. I “predict” that these are descendants of our Thomas Collins and Thomas Gibson.
As such, they are related to many of us here.
Bill
Some good info for those Collins, Gibson, Guy, etal. families.
Bill Childs wrote: Linda J.,
This is worse than brambles when you’re trying to get to high ground!
I’ve only got a William Thomas Guy in 1920 Scott and 1910 Washington, born 15 March 1888 in Darkridge, NC (living in Hilton Twp per a Scott County WWI Draft Registration Card), who had a wife and 4 kids in 1917, none of them named Walter per the 1920 census. This William’s father was James.
The problem is that the only other Guys in Scott Co don’t even come that close. Wish you could make out his father’s name better. There is a Hannah Guy in Scott Co but her husbands name is William A. Guy, (also) b. NC. So, we’re still looking.
Bill
Well Bill, I have another lead. There is a Alex and Hannah Guy in both the 1900 and 1910 census for Scott county. They are listed as being born in North Carolina. The Guy family in the 1900 census has a Samuel that is about the right age. Could it be a mistake in name by the census taker? The more I look at the handwriting on the marriage certificate it looks like Alex for his fathers name.
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