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December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21531
Hi Tarcarion! *waves* Thus far, this is what I have on that Cole paternal line: 1. Jack Cole (b: abt 1735 Buncombe Co, NC) ; wife UNK had issue:
2. John Charles “Jack” Cole (b: 1760 Buncombe Co, NC; d: 1862 Lawrence Co, KY) md: Cuzzie Anderson (b: 1760 NC; d: 1833 KY) had issue: Jackson, Ezekial, Charles, Mary, Margaret, Luana, Wils, & William Anderson Cole. Notes for father: John Charles “Jack” Cole: NOTE: John C. & Cuzzie Anderson Cole lived as members of Cherokee Indians (information from Anderson Cole Eastern Cherokee)
Cherokee Application # 31697; there is also some speculation that his father (Jack) Cole was adopted by an English farmer.
I have marital/descendancy information on only 3 of their children: Jackson, Luana & William Anderson, to wit:
3a. Jackson Cole (b: 1787 Buncombe Co, NC; d: 7 Mar 1864 Magoffin Co, KY) md 2 x: i. Margaret “Peggy” Higgins (b: abt 1795 Richmond, VA) had issue: Mariah E., Alvira, John, Harrison, Thomas J., Anderson, Elizabeth & Emanuel. ii. Katy MNU (b: abt 1790) no issue.
3b. Luana Cole (b: 1800; d: UNK) md 2x: i. William/Wilson Musgrove; issue: Nancy Montgomery & Margaret Cole Musgrove. ii. William Campbell (b: abt 1800) no issue.
3c. William Anderson Cole (b: 1791 Lincoln Co, NC; d: 1885 Magoffin Co, KY) md: 2x: i. Rebecca Watkins (b: May 1830 Floyd Co, KY; d: 6 Apr 1908 Magoffin Co, KY) issue: Biddy Watkins “Liddy” , Luana, Cynthia, Elizabeth, Marilla Mary, William R., & Wilson Cole. ii. Obedience “Biddy” Collins (b: 1804 Madison, KY; d: 1839 Magoffin Co, KY) issue: Naomi “Oma”, Kezziah Price, Valentine “Tiney”, Jemima “Mima”, Susannah “Sooky”, Charlotte, George, Dicey, John, Hiram, & Jackson Cole. Note: Rebecca Watkins Cole was listed as being 1/2 Cherokee on NA rolls.
In censuses , most of these ppl were listed as alternatingly: W, MU and B…later generations were, at times listed as IN. A goodly number of these Cole descendants are referrenced in the “Who’s Yer People” dissertation written by Richard Carlson as well. It is through William Anderson Cole & his wife Obedience “Biddy” ‘s children that these Cole’s connect to my Nichols lines…Naomi, Jemima & Susannah all having MD Nichols males.
Hope this was at least minimally helpful. Take care~~~~Laurie
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21533Laurie,
I’ve got a feeling that this is mine and Aubrey’s Coles although I don’t see “our” John Jack Cole b. 1799. Could there be another son of John Charles “Jack” Cole, a John “Jack” Cole perhaps that’s not listed? I think it’s more than coincidence that “our” John Cole had a middle name Jack. Maybe we can get Aubrey’s thoughts on this.
Bill .. Am I missing something obvious here?
Jim
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21544Answering post #162
Wow! Thank you so much Tech.
I will try to find info on it online. My Karr/Carr married a Dunn but then one of his descendants married into the Groat line which had married into the Harding line. Whew!
And if I remember right my Dunn Gpa was born in Iowa. Wow.. It seems that Iowa is a real pivot point or joining point of at least three of my lines. This is interesting. I’ll let you know if I find anything out. If not, I may ask you to see if you still have the book. I would appreciate your help. 🙂
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21552Tarcarion….this is going to look right confusing but…my suspicion is that your John Jack Cole MAY have in fact been teh one I refer to as Jackson Cole…who married a Margaret Higgins…the problem is, the One world trees are often a mess and muddle families quite a bit…my initial suspicion aside, this is everything I located on Ancestry trees about a purported John Cole…they DO however list him as being John L. Cole and they have inadvertently attached NUMEROUS wives to him…the author/indexer/inputters of this data are listed as UNK but it is perhaps worth further examination. Here goes:
ID: I200
Name: Mathew COLE
Sex: M
Birth: 1774 in Md
Death: WFT Est. 1823-1866
Note: An old family Bible states that Mathew was 1/2 Cherokee Indian, Other descendants report this as well. (Alternate spelling Matthew Cole.)
Marriage 1 Catherine COLE b: 1782 in Lee County, va
Married: WFT Est. 1795-1825
Children
John L. COLE b: 9 JAN 1800 in Lee County, va
Lucy COLE b: 1802 in Lee County, Va
Mathew Cole JR. b: 1804 in Va
Katherine COLE b: 1810 in Lee County, Va
Abbott G. COLE b: 1812 in Lee co. Va
William COLE b: 12 APR 1812 in Lee county Va
Charles COLE b: 1813 in Lee Co. Va
Suzie COLE b: 1814 in Va
Aaron COLE b: 1815
George COLE b: 1816 in Lee Co. Va
Nancy COLE b: 1820
Barbara COLE b: 1821
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*Above would be his purported parents and siblings…
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ID: I197
Name: John L. COLE
Sex: M
Birth: 9 JAN 1800 in Lee County, va
Death: 23 FEB 1873 in Owsley County, Ky
Note: He married 1st Margaret Higgins, and married nd Eliza Bowman. John and Margaret moved to Jackson County Ky to put an end to family fueding after he was force to shoot at one of his Higgins Brother-in-laws in self-defense. John & Margaret are buried on top of a mountain in Jackson County, Ky. (John also reported buied in Mckee Ky, Don’t know if that’s the same place)
Father: Mathew COLE b: 1774 in Md
Mother: Catherine COLE b: 1782 in Lee County, va
Marriage 1 Eliza BOWMAN b: WFT Est. 1799-1861
Married: WFT Est. 1818-1871
Children
John COLE b: 10 AUG 1883
Marriage 2 Margaret HIGGINS b: WFT Est. 1796-1816
Married: WFT Est. 1817-1849
Children
Elizabeth COLE b: WFT Est. 1822-1848
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*Above is how they index him and his wives on OWT
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ID: I198
Name: Eliza BOWMAN
Sex: F
Birth: WFT Est. 1799-1861
Death: WFT Est. 1884-1950
Marriage 1 John L. COLE b: 9 JAN 1800 in Lee County, va
Married: WFT Est. 1818-1871
Children
John COLE b: 10 AUG 1883
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*Above is how they index him as in his marriage to Eliza Bowman
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Eliza Bowman
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John Cole
Born: 9 Jan 1800 in [city], Lee, VA, USA
Died: 23 Feb 1873 in [city], Owsley, KY, USA Edit
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John Cole M 10 Aug 1883 in [city], Harlan, KY, USA
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*Above is how they errantly index him on a family sheet…note that they are ridiculously listing him as having died BEFORE his son John was even born!
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John Cole
Born: 9 Jan 1800
[city], Lee, VA, USA
Died: 23 Feb 1873
[city], Owsley, KY, USA
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Suggested parentI’ve added/acceptedAlternatesI’ve added/modifiedSuggested by OneWorldTree Margaret Hays
Elizabeth Cole (B: 1839)
Charles George Cole (B: 1842)
Margaret McClure Eliza Bowman
John Cole (B: 1883)
Margaret Higginbotham
Elizabeth Cole (B: 1839)
Margaret Higgins
Elizabeth Cole (B: 1839)
Margaret Higinbottom
Nancy Cole (B: )
Jerome Cole (B: 1830)
William Franklin Cole (B: 1836)
Elizabeth Cole (B: 1839)
Charles George Cole (B: 1842)
John L Cole (B: 1845)
Mary H Cole (B: 1848)
Margaret
Elizabeth Cole (B: 1839)
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Margaret Hays
Born: 1806 in [city], Green, TN, USA
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Marriage: 18 Nov 1824 in [city], Green, TN, USA Edit
Children Sex Birth
Elizabeth Cole F 1839 in [city], Clay, KY, USA Edit
Charles George Cole M 2 Jan 1842 in [city], Clay, KY, USA Edit
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John Cole M 10 Aug 1883 in [city], Harlan, KY, USA Edit
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Margaret Higginbotham
Born: 1815
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Elizabeth Cole F 1839 in [city], Clay, KY, USA Edit
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Elizabeth Cole F 1839 in [city], Clay, KY, USA Edit
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Margaret Higinbottom
Born: 17 Nov 1809 in [city], [county], VA, USA
Died: 2 Aug 1889 Edit
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Nancy Cole F Edit
Jerome Cole M 30 Sep 1830 in [city], [county], VA, USA Edit
William Franklin Cole M 1836 in [city], Clay, KY, USA Edit
Elizabeth Cole F 1839 in [city], Clay, KY, USA Edit
Charles George Cole M 2 Jan 1842 in [city], Clay, KY, USA Edit
John L Cole M 1845 in [city], Owsley, KY, USA Edit
Mary H Cole F 4 Feb 1848 in [city], Owsley, KY, USA Edit
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Elizabeth Cole F 1839 in [city], Clay, KY, USA
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*Above is ALL of his “potential” spouses and issue….some ppl honestly don’t “deserve” to access and input such rot but hey….it MAY be a starting point for further research of him and his wife Eliza nee Bowman and if he is in fact AKA Jackson Cole, then in his marriage to Margaret Higgins, who MAY in fact have been Margaret Higginbottom/Higginbotham.
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There are 16 Trees listing this man and his wife Eliza Bowman , the most detailed one that DOES have sources and notes is the very first one at the TOP of this post…no email to contact however. *frowns* One record indicates that he was born in Leeds Co, VA, most others say Lee Co, VA. Some (about half) of the trees do not list who hsi parents might have been…perhaps he WAS a child of my John Charles called Jack Cole?
As to their purported son John, they have on the OWT the following information for his spouse and children:
John Cole
Born: 10 Aug 1883
[city], Harlan, KY, USA
Died: 6 May 1946
[city], Oldham, KY, USA
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William B Cole (B: )
Virginia Cole (B: )
June Cole (B: )
Joe Cole (B: )
Lee Cole (B: 1901)
Birdie Cole (B: 1901)
Aubrey Cole (B: 1903)
Charles Cole (B: 1904)
Frank Cole (B: 1908)
Arch Cole (B: 1909)
Mary Cole (B: 1913)
Wash (B: 1919)
Carl Cole (B: 1921)
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Nancy Hensley
Born: 18 Feb 1885 in [city], Harlan, KY, USA
Died: 2 Aug 1957 in Lagrange, Oldham, KY, USA Edit
Marriage: 2 Sep 1898 in [city], Jellico Campell, TN, USA Edit
Children Sex Birth
William B Cole M Edit
Virginia Cole F Edit
June Cole F Edit
Joe Cole M Edit
Lee Cole F 10 Aug 1901 Edit
Birdie Cole F 10 Aug 1901 Edit
Aubrey Cole M 4 Mar 1903 Edit
Charles Cole M 8 Dec 1904 in Rosehill, [county], VA, USA Edit
Frank Cole M 12 Mar 1908 Edit
Arch Cole M 4 Dec 1909 Edit
Mary Cole F 6 Jan 1913 in Harlan, [county], KY, USA Edit
Wash M 28 Apr 1919 Edit
Carl Cole M 23 Jun 1921
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*I don’t yet know how to unravel all of it but I’ll next peek at some other records and do some census searching to see if the “twain” does meet on any of it. Until next time….luck be with you!~~~~~~Laurie
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21558Laurie,
Thanks so much. This is definitely mine and Aubrey Cole’s Cole family, or at least a good part of it! And you’re right about the confusing part! I have John “Jack” Cole born 1799 (which is close enough to 1800 to be a “hit”)John was married at least twice and very possibly three times, 1st unknown, 2nd Margaret “Peggy” Mallet, and 3rd, Eliza Bowman, daughter of Hawkins Bowman and my gr. gr. grandmother. Eliza was born in 1842 and married John Cole in 1857. She died in 1927. Aubrey has more on the Cole family than I do and surely he’ll “chime in” and help us out here. Today I was looking at the 1850 Lee Co. Census and saw Matthew Cole that you have listed above. The John Cole listed as born 10 Aug 1883 is Aubrey’s grandfather and his son Carl b. 1921 is Aubrey’s father.
Thanks so much for this info. Even though it’s jumbled up, there’s enough correct info here to verify that it’s “our” Coles for sure. This really helps.
Also there’s a story Aubrey told me about John Jack Cole shooting some family member (help me out here Aubrey) and that goes along with the above story of John Cole shooting a brother-in-law.Aubrey said he hide out in MO for a while and Hawk Bowman may have went with him. Hawk and John Cole were good friends. Hawk was my gr. gr. gr. grandfather and Aubrey’s gr. gr. grandfather. Thanks again.
Jim
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21559Blondeyelaurie,
I forgot to add, we show John Jack Cole as being born in Lincoln Co. NC where the info you posted shows him born Lee Co. VA. The rumor is that my gr. grandmother Mary Elizabeth Cole was fathered by James Brittian and not by John Jack Cole but I’ve never seen any documentation to prove this. “The plot thickens!”
Jim
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21570Well I say “right on Jim!”….that is great news….some of it being “confirming” will at the least pave the way to furthering your lineage research…you just never know what you are going to find when you start digging. Sometimes the most seemingly insignificant or jumbled “similarity” can guide you right through a brick wall. Kudos to you and Aubrey…I can’t wait to hear tell what all you unveil henceforth! Take care~~~~Laurie
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21572On my Mother’s side of the family, the surnames are Hall, Miller, Newman, Branstetter/Branstutter, Payne, Oney, Steward, two branches of Wright, Harrison; Mosley/Mosely and Moseley, Alford/Halford, Maiden/Mahan, McCabe/McCaib, Lunsford, Jones.
On my father’sside Gibson, Finley, Jeffers/Jeffcoat, Gatliff, Roark, Garrett, Allen, Bouth/South; Bryant, Watkins, Harris, Baker; Logan, Meek/Meeks, Wright, Taylor, Farris, Ward, Calhoun, Peyton, Ellis, Hawkins, Edwards, Hill Puryor/Pryor, Harding, Bussell/Russell.
I know I am probably forgetting some names, but will get them later.
Anita B.
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21577Hi Anita. I have Hardings in my line too. .And Taylor’s also. but none of the other names look familiar.
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21578Hello Anita *smile*…you and I have quite a few surname connections perhaps. My maternal lineage and your paternal surnames often coincide…they appear to be surnames that connect to both my maternal Nichols and Jett lines…the surnames that we have in common include the following: (those marked with a * preceeding them being most abundantly evident in my tree.) *Gibson, Gatliff, Roark, Finley, Garrett, *Allen, South, *Watkins, Harris, Baker, Logan, Wright, *Taylor, Ward, Payton, Ellis, *Edwards, Hill. If you wish to toss a few primary names/lines/dates with the * surnames perhaps we can see if/how we “connect”. Thank you for posting such an extensive listing. Take care~~~~~~~~~Laurie
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21610I have quite a few Robbins on my side of the family they mainly lived in eastern n.c
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21615Hey Laurie! That is cool that we have a few connections. Most of my lines came from VA and are in KY, TN, NC and AL, and two of my mom’s lines come from NY in the early 1600s. My Taylors, Farrises, and Logans are on both sides of my family (Hall and Gibson). It will take me a while to get all my names together, but I can do it.
I do have a PAF program where I keep my research results, so I use that and Rootsweb, Census On-Line, and other free search programs. I have an aunt and cousin that got me started doing genealogy a few years ago. When I got my computer, I really went to town 😉
I will post the dates and places for you. Some of my research may be incorrect, but I try to check it up against other sources.
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21623tarcarion and BlondeyeLaurie;
First ,let me list a couple affidavit’s
State of Virginia
County of Lee
Robert Cole , being duly sworn on oath, deposes and says that
he is a resident of Rose Hill, County of Lee, State of Virginia, and that he is now about—years of age ;that his father’s name was John Cole and
that his mother’s maiden name was Lize Bowman, that his father John Cole during his lifetime, repeatedly stated to the affiantthat he was a
full-bloodied Cherokee Indian, that his father also saidthat he was taken
from his Indian parents and adopted by a family living in —–County Virginia, by the name of —-;that the affiant’s father was a large,
tall man with long black hair, and he had the features of an Indian,
that the said John Cole repeatedly stated to the affiant that he had fought in
the War of 1812, and that he had been a waiter for James Campbell during the said War; that the said James Campbell was a Captain in the Army of the United States,the affisnt futher sttes that—-(4 Blank Lines)
Subscribed and sworn to before me this —-day of 1919
__________________
NOTARY PUBLIC_____County, Virginia
My Comission Expires______
This was passed on to me exactly as it was written the blanks were either left blank or had faded over time, was an affidavit from family in Mich who were trying to put family info together in 1919.
#2
Book8 , P. 516
Lee County Va Records
Known by all these presents that I John Cole of the county of the state of Virginia for and in consideration
of Ten years of service as an Housekeeper at Fifty two dollars per year and also the natural love and
affection which I be on Margaret Mallet and also her five children Namely Richard, Elizabeth,Elaine,John and Harrison Mallet or Cole have this day bargained and sold and by therefore into do give
named property to wit: one Mare and colt, five head of cattle,___head of swine, seven head of sheep
and cart together with all my have and hold and kitchen furniture,_____,______ of growing grain now
in the ground and every other species of property wich I have or have a right to in any way. Given
under my hand and seal this 17th day of October 1842.
John Cole (his mark) (seal)
Attest D. H. Campbell
Lee County Clerk’s Office 19th day of October 1842, this deed of gift from John Cole to Mallet was
acknowledged before and admitted to record
J.W.S. Morrison
In 1845 John Cole (Cherokee Indian) was grnted a 50 acre tract of land in Knox Co Ky, Registered and Recorded in Knox Co Ky 1847 , Book 20 Page 146 No.9728.
The land was taken away from him as he was an Indian by Whiote people, He left ky and went bsck to Va.
Robert (Blind BOB0 Cole b. 20 june 1860 died Rose Hill Va 7 June 1930 was married to Sarah Jane ??? and is buried in the Warf Cemetary Rose Hill Va.
Sarah Jane Cole, Jack and Clarence Warf are also in Warf Cemetary
Washington (george Washington ) Cole son of Eliza bowman Married Lurenda Clouse, lived in Rose Hill Va and had several children
Carlo lived and died in Harlan Co Ky
Maynard Died young
Jerry married ?? moved near Oldham co ky and then to Corbin Ky I believe.Had several children.( I Aubrey G Cole, met Jerry on 3 or 4 occassions He was very dark complicted, with straight Black hair and looked like a full blood Indian to me)
Mary M. Leonard Pauley 1 child divorced she married Little Washington Cole 2nd time he was son of Jacob Cole
Nelia Cole b 4 jul 1911 d. 7 aug 1920 burried Pace Cemetary Rose Hill Va.
This is some of the info I have regarding John (Jack) Cole and Margaret Malletand Eliza Bowman Cole.also have statement from family member stating that both John and Margaret came from N.C.and she was Dutch and French . also that all the children execpt wm Jefferson and Elizabeth Eliza went to Michigan with their mother, That Elizabeth had one child named Jane and that wm Jefferson had 6 children and that he lived and died in Lee Co Va. John M Cole married and settled in Mich and Had a Large family.It was never known what happened to Emanuel or Manuel /Cole, However Anderson came back to va and died there is buried on mountain in Rose Hill Va.
Also info from P.V. Cole in the 1930’s stated that his grandfather Jojn Cole killed one of his bro in laws and fled to Missouri for a spell, that he knew 2 of John’s bro’s they were Willia and George, also that Mathew c Cole was named after his g-gfathe Mathew Cole. I also have a couple other letters from older Cole family members and will forward copies if you so desire
as always
Aubrey G Cole
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21625In addition to my surnames, here are some names, dates and places from my grandmother Alice Francis Logan, born 1907 in KY and died Jan. 4, 1997.
Alice “Allie” Frances Logan married William Jennings Gibson. Allie’s parents were John Frank Logan b. 18641 in KY and died 1919 in KY. He married Sara Ann “Sallie” Meeks June 17, 1904. Sara was born 1887, place unknown and died 1958, place unknown. It was said that Sara traveled pretty much, and sadly only saw her daughter Allie maybe once in a period of 20 years. Sara’s parents were Hiram Meeks and Elizabeth Wright.
Elizabeth Wright was b. about 1839, place unknown. Elizabeth married Hiram Meeks, b. about 1838 and died some time after 1887, date and place of death unknown. Their year of marriage was sometime around 1866, place unknown. Elizabeth died some time after 1887, place unknown. Her parents were Joel (S.?) Wright and Esther Calhoun.
Joel (S.?) Wright was born around 1806 in Wayne Co., KY, death date and place unknown. He married Esther Calhoun, who was born around 1815 in KY, no death date or place given. No marriage date given. Joel’s parents were Jesse Wright and Doshua “Doshea” (Dorothy) Peyton.
Jesse Wright was b. around 1764 in Amhearst Co., VA, and d. sometime after Sept., 1830 in Wayne Co., KY. Jesse married Doshua Peyton, date unknown.
Doshua “Doshea” (Dorothy) Peyton was b. around 1764 in Stafford Co., VA and died 1831 in Wayne Co., KY. Jesse’s parents were Susannah Ellis and Isaac Wright.
Isaac Wright was b. around 1740 in King William Co., VA and died 1807 in Amherst Co., VA. He married Susannah Ellis, date and place unknown. Susannah Ellis was b. 9 Nov 1744 in Henrico Co., VA and died 1821 in Bourbon Co., KY. Isaac’s parents were Mary Hawkins and Francis E. Wright.
I will finish this later, as we are having a thunderstorm, and I don’t want to lose what I have printed so far. I will try to pick up where I left off, later.
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #21626To all;
the surnames on my mothers side of the family are Dunaway, Muncie,Neal,Woolery,Powell,. these are what I have as I am just getting started, I have a Cousin who stated that in the 1950’s he had a family tree complied and has since lost it but that the names were traced back to the Souix, He did not say which names so I guess I’ll have a lot of hunting to do.
As always
Aubrey G Cole
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