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December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #34466
Hey Ed, nice to see you around.
And Welcome Kosmic. If you’re poking around for possible Saponi (or other tribal) ties, you might want to pursue these names first:
Jefferis
Smith
Scott
Edwards
Moore
Brown
Head
Holmes
Ramsey
Harris
Hughes
Day
Taylor
I’ve bolded those where there seems to be some specific documentation. The rest have just come upk perhaps reported frequently by families suspecting their have Saponi origins. Try searching here on them and see what comes up.
Happy hunting
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #34468Thanks for the welcome Linda and for listing the names. Can’t wait to start searching through the posts 🙂
Ed, it sounds as though you have a very interesting background! It’s possible we have a Smith connection as both our families seem to have been in Halifax. Do you have any idea who Frances Ann’s father was? The father of my John Smith (born 1750 in Halifax County, VA) was William born about 1720 in Halifax also. It’s through John’s wife Frances Burke/Burks that I’m able to make the connection to Chief Powhatan. The story of how my mom was descended from a great Indian Chief (Powhatan) and a full blooded Indian Princess (his daughter Cleopatra, sister of Pocahontas) has been passed down for many generations in my family. Until I started doing genealogical research I assumed that the story was mostly a myth. It does appear however that there’s pretty good evidence to support the family legend 🙂
All My Best,
Jo
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #34469Oops…I need to make a slight correction…John Smith’s father was Samuel (born about 1708 in Middlesex, VA) NOT William as I mistakenly posted! Samuel was married to Grissel/Griselda Locker (born 1715 in Prince Georges Co., Maryland).
All My Best,
Kosmicdancer77
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #34510I thought I would post about one of my family surnames I have not mentioned until now. That is the surname Colbert, which I believe is Irish. My great-great-grandmother, Isabella Colbert, married Thomas Fitzgerald. Their son, Thomas Fitzgerald, Jr., was born in New York, and was reared in Ontario, Canada. As a young man, Thomas Fitzgerald, Jr. migrated to Wisconsin and enlisted in the Union Army. He fought in several Civil War battles, including Shiloh, Tennessee, and Corinth, Mississippi. He was wounded twice but survived the war. After the war, he returned to the Midwest and married my great-grandmother, Hester Ann Rogers, in Fort Madison, Iowa. I have another ancestor, Dean Rogers, Hester’s father, who was also brought up in Canada. He was born in Stanstead, Quebec, Canada. Migration both ways between Canada and the United States was very common. I believe Dean’s parents may have been born in Vermont and then migrated to Canada, where their son Dean was born. Dean then left Canada as a young man and migrated to Iowa, where he married my great-great-grandmother, Martha Stephens Rogers.
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #34516Hello, my ggggrandfather was Lawson Goens/Goins born in Virginia, not sure where, in 1807, he was married to Sarah Hart who also was born in Virginia in 1810 and died in 1886. They were found in the 1850 and 1860 Fed. Population Census for Jefferson County, Virginia, now Jefferson County West Virginia. They were considered “free persons of color and mulattoes” as well. Lawson Goens died 12 Jul 1874, he served as a boatman/ferryman for Shannondale Springs Resort for 30 years. Has anyone researched this area for Saponi links? I do not know of any other location for Lawson Goens. Thanks
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #34529I have a celia Thompson that lived in the upper portion of va in warren county that lived there durin 1850. thats between front royal and wv. she was listed as living with thiss family of mulattoes and fpc called the allen family. she is of blackfoot ancestry. wrater she was saponi or manahoac is yet to be figured out.
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #35169Hi,
The surnames that I have researched so far on my mom’s side of the family are:
Smoot (info all the way back to William Smute who landed at Old Point Comfort, Va in the 1634. There is also a book called The Smoots of Maryland and Virginia by Harry Wright Newman on that part of my family.)
Morgan (my grandfather’s mother’s line) Traced all the way back to Abraham Morgan and Elizabeth Ealy from Wales. Also said to have landed in Old Point Comfort, VA before 1775.
Damron (my maternal grandmother’s paternal grandmother) traced back to Lazarus Damron and wife Elizabeth Smith (he was born around the late 1600’s)
Marcum (on both sides of my grandmother’s grandparents) traced back to Josiah Marcum (born approx 1759) and wife Edie McDonald.
Moore (my grandmothers maternal grandparents) I’ve only been able to go back to my grandmother’s grandfather Henry Clinton Moore and wife Rhoda J. Tompkins Moore. Henry’s father may have been John Moore?
Tompkins – I’ve only been able to go back to Rhoda J. Tompkins father William Tandy Tompkins and Elizabeth Laney (spelling?)
If any of these surnames seem familiar to your family line, I’d love to hear from you. I’d also like to know if these names were common among the Native American people so I can start looking into any possible NA blood in these lines. All lived either Virginia or Kentucky in the earlier years and later on in West Virginia and North Carolina area. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Nora
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #35170Family Surnames
My Moms side is, Secrest, Johnson, Dees, and Coe this is all I have for now.
My Dads side consists of; Dees, Outten, and Bone are just a few.
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #35175Hi
DreamingHawk, I recently learned that the Clayton surname is related to Mom’s side of the family where are your Clayton’s from?
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #35176HI
Quest for facts, do you have any names from the bullock side of your family and are they from North Carolina?
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #35178help me with these surnames:EVANS, RICHARDSON ,DEMPSEY ,BASS ,POPE – BOONE, ANSTEAD, HAITHCOCK , SILVER , LYNCH , SCOTT, JONES, Collins Bunch all of North Carolina Beside Bass
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #35180Hi Nativelady,
I read your post and have found the name of maiden name of my grandmother Coleman. Her family was born in Clovertown, Halifax Co. during the 1800’s and earlier and later on. I am wondering if there is a relationshiip between your family and mine.
ljcarrington
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #35181what was your grandmother name
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #35182Hi Saponiweaver,
My grandmother’s name was Luella C.Coleman DOB 1896 born in Clovertown, Halifax Co.
She is the daughter of Wyatt Dabney Coleman DOB 1883 also born in place as his daughter.
His father’s name is William Wyatt Coleman DOB 1825 and his mother’s name was Caladonia Dabney DOB 1845, also born in Clovertown, Halifax Co. My grandmother also had a sister named Caladonia DOB 1905 by his second wife Mary Thomas also born in the same town.
I am thankful for any and all info concerning the Coleman family.
ljCarrington
December 3, 2003 at 2:13 am #35183COLEMAN, Alice Rebecca b: 1857 in Halifax County,North Carolina d: BEF 1883 in Halifax County,North Carolina
COLEMAN, Ann M. b: 7 Oct 1872 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 22 Jun 1912 in Weldon, Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Anna b: 1831 in Halifax County,North Carolina d: AFT 1880 in Halifax County,North Carolina
COLEMAN, Bettie L. b: 1868 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Daniel b: 1752 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia d: 1846/1850 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Daniel b: 1837 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: ABT 1890 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Dora b: Oct 1853 in Halifax County,North Carolina d: AFT 1930
COLEMAN, Elizabeth Jane b: 1846 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Frances b: Nov 1859 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 1860/1870 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Hawes Netherland b: 22 Aug 1788 in Albemarle County, Virginia d: 23 Sep 1867 in Nelson County, Virginia
COLEMAN, Henry b: 1818 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: BEF 1900 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, I b: 1860 in Warren County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Irvin b: 1832 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, J. b: 1858 in Warren County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, James b: 1825 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: Sep 1868 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, James b: 1865 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, James Albert b: 24 Sep 1913 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 22 Apr 1998 in Greensboro, Guilford County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, John b: 1829 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: ABT 1865 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, John David b: 1866 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, John Wesley b: 22 Jan 1877 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 14 May 1920 in Weldon, Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, John William b: 1855 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 31 Mar 1928 in Brinkleyville Township,Halifax County,North Carolina
COLEMAN, Margiana b: 1865 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 1910/1920 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Martha Ann b: in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Mary b: 1856 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 1888/1897 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Mary E. b: 1869 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Nancy b: 1834 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 1860/1870 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Rebecca b: 1880 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 20 May 1935 in Weldon, Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Rosanna Lucinda b: 1839 in Halifax County,North Carolina d: AFT 1900
COLEMAN, Sallie Ann b: 1844 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Sallie Royal b: 1859 in Nelson County, Virginia d: BEF 1900 in Nelson County, Virginia
COLEMAN, Sarah b: 1857 in Warren County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Savannah Mary b: 1833 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, Susan b: 1849 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: 28 Apr 1929 in Brinkleyville Township,Halifax County,North Carolina
Does any of these coleman you know
COLEMAN, Wiat b: 1824 in Halifax County, North Carolina
COLEMAN, William D. b: 1863 in Halifax County, North Carolina
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