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In surfing I found this. I thought it was interesting:
http://www.geocities.com/frankoclark/richland/griffin.html
John Griffin’s family received a 250 acres grant on the waters of the Congaree (Toms and Griffins Creek area) in the year 1764. These Griffins were part of the large “free-person-of-color” community in Richland County c1790-1850. Were these the “Sandhillers?” John was possibly half Indian, perhaps Cherokee. His wife’s father was part Saponi from North Carolina. Absalom GRIFFIN, who lived in Richland c1770, was not listed as a person of color, so he and John may have been a half brothers. Sons were Gideon, Morgan and John. Daughter was Hannah or Johannah.
There is more on the URL listed above.
Brenda
Brenda I found some very interesting information that I really think you should take a look at. This is about John Collins, David, Joseph, etc… http://genforum.genealogy.com/ga/tattnall/messages/138.html
Go to files button on the Saponi egroup and look at what I will upload there.
here is another interesting one
http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanansem/nans-qry.html
I believe this may fill some gaps and clear up some things about the John Collins deal and also show why it has all benn so hard to figure out. They all sure did move around allot.
Soory that file didn’t work out like I thought it would. You can get to at by going to
http://genforum.genealogy.com/ga/tattnall/messages/48.html
this one gives a good listing of siblings
Also you may want to go to
FamilyTreeMaker.com
and type in any of those names.
John’s should come up then you can compare the dates.
On Mahenip I found out that he was the last Saponi Chief or leader to leave Fort Christanna. The name Mahenip was suggested as an honorary name from what I was told recently. The link to John Collins was brought to my attention by John Trullinger three years back. In our family the use of names over and over and over again is very common. There is a story about four cousins of ours in Missouri that were stopped by a game warden. When they were asked what their names were they each replied Lawrence Collins. Three of them were brothers and one was a cousin. The warden asked for i.d. to confirm this and sure enough they were all four named Lawrence Collins. This illustrates the confusion and difficulty in straightening out who is who and is made even more compound by the fact that they moved around so much. Of coarse as we all well know our government officials didn’t make things any the more easy.
Cottontop,
Yes, I went to the site. I have seen the post before.I have seen this family with two different list of children and birthdates. Here is the will of John Collins of
Bertie Co.N.C.
John Collins’ Will
IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN, the 27 Day of Dissember, 1749, I John Collins, of Bartee County, in the Province of North Carolina, Being Sick and weake in body, but of Perfect mind and memory, thanks be unto God, therefore calling unto mind the mortality of the Body, knowing that itt is appointed for all men once to Dye, do make and ordain this my last will give and recommend my sole into the hands of God that gave itt, and my Body I recommend to ye Earth to be bured in a decent christan Burell, at the discretion of my Exceutors, nothing doubting but at the General Resurrection I shall recive the same by the mighty power of God, and as touching such worldly Estate, warewith itt hath pleased God to bless me in this liffe I give, demise and dispose of in the following manner and form:
Imprimis. I give and bequeath to my Son, William Collins, all that track of land lying on Casshi River, a plantation purched of Johnathan Standlye containing two hundred Eakers, to him and his hears and asigns for ever, and a pare of Iron pot Racks.
Eitom. I give to my Granson, John Collins, a bras kitell, to him and his hears for ever.
Eitom. I give to my two Sons, John and David Collins, each of them a Bible.
Eitom. I give and bequeath unto my Son, Joseph Collins, a Plantation lying the north side of Guy hass Swamp, purtered of hardy Keele, containing one hundred and fifty Eakers at the beginnin, End to him and to his Ears and asigns for Ever. all so, I give him my Cooper Tools and two Ews and Lambs, an a Cow and Calfe.
Eitom. I give and bequeath unto my Son, Mikell Collins my Surva that lys on Red bud, containg three hundred Eakers, to him and his Ears for ever. Also, I give him a neagro Boy named Robin, and if my said Son should die without hears of his body, then I give the Neagro to my Son Jessee and to his Ears. all so I give to Son Mikell a black Warnut table, and a Cow and Calfe and a puter dish, except two Days in weak for my Wife.
Eitom. I give and bequeath unto my Son, Demsee Collins, a plantation that henry Ballentin formerly lived on, parte of the tracte of land that I bote of Hardy Keele, lying on Gie hall Swamp by at the lower Ende of the said lane Contain one hundred and fifty Eakers to him and to his Ears and signs for ever. also, I give him an Ovel Table, mad of Maple. also, I give him Cow and Calf, and a puter dish, and a neagro man called toney, to him and his Ears for Ever, an in Case my said Sone should die before he hath anny lawfull Ears, then this Neagro I give to my Son Joseph, an to his Ears, tow days every weak to worke for my Wife duering life.
Eitem. I give and beques to my Son, Jesse Collins, my Plantasion I now live on with three hundred Eakers of Land, to him and his Ears an asigns for Ever. also, I give him a Case with fifteen botells, an a feather Bed and furnetude, an two Cows and Calves, an puter dish to him and his Ears for Ever.
Eitem. I give and bequeth to my Son, Absolum Collins, two hundred and forty seven Eakers of land, part of the survaye that I now live on, begining on the deep Branch an so runing to the head line, itt tis the Eastard side of my plantatsion, an so to the patine line for breath. all so, I Give him a neagro garl, named Venus, and in case my said son should dye befor he Come to age of twenty one years, then I give this negro to my Son Jessee. I Give the first Child this negro girl bring, if itt live tell one yeare old to my Son Jessee. I all so give my son, absalom, a feather bed and furnetude, an a Cow and Calfe, a bel, metell morter and pessel, and a puuter dish an my Sorell Mare.
Eitem. I Give and bequeth to my well beloved Wife, a fether Bed and furnetude, and my horse and hur Sadle, one Pott, two Basens and dishes two, and a Chist to Shee and hur Ears for ever, and two days qorke of my two neagro fellows du life.
Eitem. All the Remainder of my Estate within and without, that is after my Just debt is full satefide and paide, I give to my Wife and six Sons, William, Joseph, mikell, Demsee, Jessee an sabsalom, to be Eacally devid among them all, and my Will and desier is that my Estat shall lie in the hands of my Executors tell the youngest come to the Eage Eighteen years, and not to be sold but to have thare Estate as they come to age of Eighteen years. I doe apint my well beloved Wife and my Sone Mikell to be, I Leave my whole and Sole Exectricks and Execetor, and I do Revke, disanull and disalow of all other Wills made by me or in my name, Ratefying and confirming this to be my lasy Will and testament.
In Witness whareof I have hereunto set my hand and Seale, interlined before asined.
JOHN COLLINS (L.S.)
MOSES HILL,
JETHRO ROUNTREE
Edenhouse, 18th March, 1752
This Day Moses Hill & Jethro Rountree, the two Suncribing Evidences of the last
Will & Testament of John Collins appeared before me & made Oath that they saw the
Testator Sign, Seal & Deliver the same as and for His last Will & Testament, and that at
the signing thereof He was of sound & disposing mand & memory. At the same time
Micheal Collins & Mary Collins, Executors appointed by the said Will qualified themselves
as Executors by taking the Oath appointed by Law for that Purpose.
Gau. Johnston.
Copied from Original Will filed int he Office of the Secretary of State.
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Now …from what I am told John and David recieved the Bibles because they were so young. David was born just shortly after John Collins made out this will which is dated the 27 Day of Dissember, 1749. David was born 1750 and John just a few years older. The will was excuted on
18th March, 1752 . I believe I have documentation that proves David b. 1750 and my Meredith Collins were related and believed to be cousins, makeing their children second cousins.
Also wanted to mention Chief Mahennip. I believe it was Richard Haithcock that told me that the white guards or settlers would not let the chief plant the crops that last season they were at Fort Christianna, forcing the Chief and his people to go south before winter or they would have all starved to death. Wish Richard was handy to tell me if I remember it correctly. Does anybody know exacally what the location they went to in S.C. ( county or Settlement)?
Brenda
Brenda
i am looking for anything on a ralph m. griffin his son was henry griffin whose son was warren griffin. ralph was married to sarah cobb and henry was married to mariam annette hall and warren was married to millie shours boykin. i can not find anythin on ralph or henry except the sons names and there wives nothing else as for as ancestors
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