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Hello all, this is my first post to this awsome site. I found it by mistake looking for Blackfoot Indians that may have lived in the Eastern States. Although I am not sure it is the Blackfoot people that I am looking for. My Greatgrandmother Dorothy Lee Murry (1911) of La Monte Pettis Missouri, once told me that she was Dutch-Irish and Blackfoot Indian. Ok, that is believeable living in Missouri I can see her descending from (Blackfeet) Sioux. Now my mother argues with me that Great grandma was of Cherokee descent and not Blackfoot as was told to me directly by grandma Dorothy. I started researching Dorothy Lee Murry last year and found that her parents were born in MO. Lester Murry born in 1887 in La Monte Pettis Mo, and Della Maye King born in 1892 Blackwater Pettis Mo. There parents were really hard to find but I found them finally. Marmaduke (Duke) Murry was born in 1858 in Ill/Ky/Mo?? Don’t really know he is listed in several different censuses as being born in different states. His death certificate states Peoria Ill, and this document was informed by his wife Nancy Jane Yarnall/Yarnold/Arnold was born in 1856 in Cooper Missouri and is shown living with relatives in Palistine Cooper Mo, in 1860, 1870 and finally on a census with Marmaduke in 1880. I don’t think the Yarnall’s are native they are from England and moved to Missouri in the early 1800’s. Duke Murry’s Parents were said to be born in Kentucky or Tennessee, depends on what census you are looking at. I can’t find any additional info on his parents. Now on to the Kings. Della Maye Kings parents were Charles W King born in 1870 in East Quincy Ill. and Anna Rachel Bell Shepherd born in 1871 in Glasscow, Missouri. Charles W Kings parents were Reuben King Born 1850 in I think Obion Tn. His mother was Catharine White born in 1847 Adams Illinois. Anna Rachel Bell Sheperds parents were Joseph L Sheperd born in 1848 Louden Virginia. His wife was Millie H Benton born in 1849 in Kentucky. The Bentons were originally from Mayland and moved to Kentucky in the mid 1700’s. I can onily trace the Sheperds to the late 1700’s in Virginia. If any of this looks or seems familiar I could sure use a little help. It’s all one big mess to me. I do have Native American from my fathers side as well, Have not found any proof yet. And probably never will. He descends from the Leftwichs’ of Montgomery TN, Browns of South Carolina, Whitted/Whiteheads of North Carolina, Talleys’ of middle TN. just to name a few. That is just another mountain to climb. Thanks for letting me join this awsome site!!!! Bobby
Hi Bobby, Welcome to Saponi Town. There are alot of people on here that may be able to help you. I know what it feels like trying find your ancestry when it is mixed~will try to help you in future~gotta go somewhere now but with Creators will~will alway be back~Good Luck and happy hunting~~:D Greydove~^~
Hey there Bobby. Good to have you here. I can relate to the families locations. I live in Sedalia, Pettis Co., MO about 10-15 minutes from LaMonte. Seems as though your families migration is similar to my families. The only names I can think of that may cross with mine are the Browns, and possibly the Whitted family. We’ll have to confer with saj.
Any ways welcome and good hunting, Bob
Welcome Bobby. Our lines may cross with the Whiteheads. My line is in Person County NC, may also tie into the Orange county one. I just haven’t found proof yet.
Happy hunting
Thanks all, I don’t know why I have’t found this site before. I am semi-new to this. I started working on family history about 8 years ago, and with work, bad relationships and keeping up with my house just got away from it. I have more patience now to work on it. You know what kills me is I can onily find relatives listed as white all the way back to the late 1700’s. The Whitehead/Whitteds are just so uneasy about this subject and hold true to the English-Welch origins of the family. They were Quakers at one point but were kicked out of the church because of to “many outside marriages”. I am fine with them being English, but the fact is the intermarried with various tribes from day one of being in this country. Our government just stinks for what it has done to our people, and blacks alike. I guess I will just have to suck it up and deal with the fact that these people were just scared for ther lives and couldn’t admit to the truth. Not getting off the subject the Whiteheads are another chapter of the family delimas. I searched for alot of surnames and found a great deal of the surnames just not the ones I am looking for. I will do some more searching until I find something. This site is just to awsome!! Bless All Bobby
My Whitted/Whitehead line is as follows
Thomas Whitted Sr. Esquire- Abt. 1748 (Baltimore Maryland) or North Carolina nobody knows for sure.
Mary X (Later married Sarah Kirk)
Thomas Whitted Jr.-1784 Orange County NC-1851 Maury County TN
Peggy Lashly/Lashley 1786 NC-1850 Maury TN
John (Jehu) Whitehead/Whitted 1810 NC- 1870 Wayne Co, Tn
m Winnifred(Winnie) Weaver 1813 NC- 1860 Wayne Co TN
James Riley Whitehead 1849 Tennessee 1917 Wayne Co TN
m Tennessee Kilpatrick 1844 NC – 1922 Wayne Co TN
Mary Lizzie Whitehead 1888 Tn- 1946 Wayne Co TN
m Frederick Harris Leftwich 1885 Montgomery TN- 1918 Franklin Co Alabama
Bessie Leftwich 1911 Tn- 1991 Tn
Charles Raymond Brown 1907 TN- 1953 Tn
Grady Roy Brown 1943 TN 2003 TN
Janice Elaine Record 1949- Danville Kentucky
Ball, BOLLING, CORN, Ellis, HARRIS, King, Taylor, Murry, TAYLOR. TURNER, Wall, Weaver, WHITE, Wright, are all names that Richard Haithcock lists as names he’s encountered in families with likely Indian descent. The ones in caps have been tied to Saponi families, or likely Saponi families, which are the Indians we believe the Blackfoot ID ties into. (http://www.saponitown.com/Blackfoot.htm) Bolling and Corn are two of the six surnames documented to tribal Saponi people before they slipped off the history books. You’ll see a lot of posts here about Bollings. Corn is rare to come up. I’ve often wondered why we never hear that name, so check it out and please let us know if you find anything.
Living in Ohio you should be able to connect with the Ohio Saponi, where the Blackfoot ID is so common it’s assumed to be synonamous. It’s a very active community that has delved into restoring cultural traditions. Forum members RLEE or Tasheaka should be able to advise you.
Thanks for the info Linda. I will have to check on the Elizabeth Corn Born in Hampshire, Virginia abt 1753, Daughter of George Corn and Dolly???. She married into my Yocum/Yocom/Yoakum etc… line. Bobby
Bobby, I was about to post this right before the site quit working. Hope it will make sense, and maybe be of some use to you.
This Arthur Weaver is too young, but could possibly be a relative. Christopher Porter below had property in Orange, Caswell, and Buncombe County.
“He (talking about Christopher Porter) was listed as having Arthur Weaver, age 7, bound to him as an apprentice. Ezekial Weaver, age 4, was also listed as bound to Nonathan Parras on next entry in 1809 Buncombe Co., NC (Winslow, “North Carolina Apprentice Indentures through 1850,” North Carolina Genealogical Society Journal vol 19, #3 (Aug 1993): p 168. Hereinafter cited as “NC Apprentices”.).
Linky:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jcbarron/Pollock/porter.htm
Beeleaf, I have seen that document before on freeafricanamericans or somewhere else. Thanks for your help. This Arthur as you say would be much to young for Grandfather Arthur. Could be related though. My Weaver line and Whitehead line traveled together from Orange Co. NC to Knox Co. Tennessee, then to Lawrence Co. and finally settling down in Wayne Co. Tennessee. There were a few other families along for the ride I believe Hartwick was one of them. They deffinatley left NC shortly after Jehu Whitehead married Arthurs daughter Winnie Weaver in 1827. Like the Whiteheads the Weavers are very hard to pin down. Once again Beeleaf thanks for your input your a sweetheart……Bobby
I descend from a Whitehead line from NC. I have my line coming from a William Whitehead born about 1784 in NC. The family moved into the Kentucky. I believe somewhere in the Monroe Co. area. William’s son Benjamin born 1817 settled in Wayne Co., Ky. I don’t know if these Whitehead’s are connected to yours but I would be interested in your line. Reba
Reba, Thanks for replying. My Whitehead line is most probably connected. It was thought at one time that your William was brothers to my Thomas. Thanks to David Whiteheads DNA project that was proven not to be the case. I would like to think that they were at least cousins.
My Whitted/Whitehead line is as follows
Thomas Whitted Sr. Esquire- Abt. 1748 (Baltimore Maryland) or North Carolina nobody knows for sure.
Mary X (Later married Sarah Kirk)
Thomas Whitted Jr.-1784 Orange County NC-1851 Maury County TN
Peggy Lashly/Lashley 1786 NC-1850 Maury TN
John (Jehu) Whitehead/Whitted 1810 NC- 1870 Wayne Co, Tn
m Winnifred(Winnie) Weaver 1813 NC- 1860 Wayne Co TN
James Riley Whitehead 1849 Tennessee 1917 Wayne Co TN
m Tennessee Kilpatrick 1844 NC – 1922 Wayne Co TN
Mary Lizzie Whitehead 1888 Tn- 1946 Wayne Co TN
m Frederick Harris Leftwich 1885 Montgomery TN- 1918 Franklin Co Alabama
Bessie Leftwich 1911 Tn- 1991 Tn
Charles Raymond Brown 1907 TN- 1953 Tn
Grady Roy Brown 1943 TN 2003 TN
Janice Elaine Record 1949- Danville Kentucky
If you have any questions I can put you in touch with a private Whitehead site that is very informative on alot of the differant Whitted Whitehead families. Plus you may inform them on some things!!! Let me know if you are interested….. Bobby
This is late, but welcome:)
…is the avatar you?…looks very much like my brother:) Again, welcome.
Shirley
Record72, I should have mentioned last summer that the Blackfoot ID was often intermingled with the Cherokee. Many families have the tradition of being Blackfoot Cherokee or Cherokee Blackfoot, so having stories in your family that your ancestor was both isn’t necessarily a contradiction.
Do all those names that you have that I mentioned were on the list of prominent Saponi names coincide with the lines connected with the Cherokee and/or Blackfoot ID?
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