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have just really started in trying to trace my family tree–my aunt and i went to halifax county record department to hit a dead end from the beginning. we were unabe to locate any documentation of my grandmother, Fannie Turner Jones. Her mother was Emma Poythress and her father, Nathaniel Weldon Turner. With both of these last names, Turner and Poythress, bring me back to the portugese nationality that seems to include saponi, nottaway indians. I keep running across the Christianna fort in trying to research. A cousin of my grandmothers remembers the bethany school in gaston in northampton county NC, however did not attend it. The surnames Poythress,Bass,Newsome,Turner,Scott are the most popular and through talking with relatives they remember my grandmother to be cousins with the bass and scotts. My grandmother Fannie Turner Jones married my grandfather Samuel Thomas Jones March 18 around 1936. His mother was a Clary from Brunswick co. VA. He had very distinct facial features, the hawk style nose, high cheek bones, and dark olive complexion just as my father inherited. A lot of people that come across him beleive him to be mixed (B&W), or indian. His birth certificate in Halifax county had his race listed as colorec then marked through to white as they checked sibling race and his ister was marked as white, so his birh certificate was then changed and notated wit this information. Any help on this research would be greatly appreciated and any tips welcome–Thanks to everyone in advance Jeanna
Welcome to the forum, Jeanna,
I’ll see if I can help but I need more information on Samuel Jones to find him.
What is Samuel Jones’s date of birth on his birth certificate?
Were Fannie Turner and Samuel Jones married in Halifax Co NC?
Do you know the names of Samuel Jones’s siblings?
According to the 1920 Halifax Co., NC census of Weldon Twp, (p.10A), Nathaniel and Emma D. Turner lived in the house of Maritius (?) Turner, b.abt.1857 NC and Maritius/Martins’s wife Virginia _?_, b.abt.1861 NC, probably Nathaniel’s parents. Nat was 24, b.in NC and Emma D., “wife”, was 17, b.NC. All were shown as “MU”.
(Maritius? Turner’s first name is indexed as “Martins” but that’s not the name shown on the census which is barely ledgible so didn’t find them using those names in 1910. Still looking and will let you know what I find.
The 1930 Halifax Co NC, Weldon Twp census shows Nat Turner as 35 y/o, marr’d at 20 y/o; and Emma, “wife”, 25 y/o, marr’d at 16 and they have two dau’s; FANNIE, 9, and Margie, 5, all shown as “White”.
In both 1920 & 1930, there are “PORTIS” relatives living with the Turners.
Bill
Welcome, Jeanna, do you know Crystal Rose? She is most certainly a cousin of yours. She’s posted a lot on here, but not lately. You might want to use the search feature (upper right hand corner ) and search on the name Crystal. I hope I can call her before this weekend. There’s a pow wow at Occoneechee STate Park in Clarksville, VA, I’m hoping to see her at.
Bill–you have helped out so much already–My Grandmother was Fannie and her sister,Margie. We were unable to locate proof of Fannies existance anywhere..we were beginning to beleive she was born in another county. The ages match up perfectly–she was born May 8,1921. As far as Samuel Jones, I beleive he may have been born in Brunswick co. His birthday is December 24, i’m not sure of which year, but i know he was older than Fannie, so he was born before 1921. I can get thia info from my aunt. I am interested in the Jones side of my family but at this point i’m really more interested in the Turner side. You mentioned relatives with the last name of Portis–I have never heard this name in referesence to being related but find it interesting–something to definately check into
Linda–I have ran across the name Crystal Rose. Have read a few of her postings. I was wondering if she was some how related due tot he information she was submitting–i would love to talk with her and i’ll try to locate her.. thank you Linda—Jeanna
Bill—in previous posting, you mentioned there were family members with the last name Portis. Now after thinking about this for a little while–just realized great granmothers maiden name was Poythress..Emma Poythress Turner–think this may be the same just misspelled???
That name is spelled a variety of ways, including Poythress, Portris, Portras, Poythris, etc. in the old Northampton records
Jeanna & Forest Hazel,
Yes, I was considering the same scenario and per Forest Hazel it was spelled several different ways in at least one other county so it’s possible. I’m checking it out and will let you know.
Bill
Why don’t you come to the Occoneechee State Park pow wow this weekend, Jeanna? My family will be there. My family will be singing some as “Red Earth Family Drum.” It’s hard to miss. It’s the drum with a lot of young boys in it.
It’s across the bridge from Clarksville, on Hwy 58. Starts at noon.
Linda– Wish I could make it–unfortunately i’m working this weekend–every weekend—in order to get a weekend off i have to give 3 weeks!!! notice—thanks for the invite!!:p 🙁
Jeanne,
The Emma that was listed in the census was not a Poythress but a Turner by birth as well. She was the daughter of Lundy Jack and Annie Turner. You may want to check Wilson County records as well. That part of the family left Gaston for a short time and went to Black Creek and Stauntonsburg.
We are definitely cousins and welcome to the Saponitown Forum. We have alot of loose ends to finish tying up but otherwise, research is going very well. Please contact me and we’ll start tying in your line with the settlement. 🙂
Again, welcome and look forward to hearing from you.
Crystal Rose Morgan
Forrest,
Hey sunshine…I need to talk with you regarding a few old records. Can you e-mail me personally?
Thanks
Crystal
after speaking with my aunt tonight–I confirmed what you stated- Emma was a Turner before marrying a Turner. Found out Emma’s father Lundy Turner died at the age of 70 and is buried in Black Creek Cemetary in Kenly. Nat’s parents were Weldon Nat Turner and Jenny Jarrell. I beleive I saw Matthews birth certificate in Halifax Co. and his race listed as portuguese. Do you have anything to confirm or disprove this. As far as my grandfather (Sam) his parents were Ella Clary and Benjamin Jones of Brunswick. Also, my husband’s paternal grandmother was Mary Magdaline Turner of Greensville Co. trying to find out if these two sets of Turners are related or are they the same. Mary was married to Cola Dunlow from Greensville co, also—–Crystal, how do you tie into the Turners??
Jeanne says>>> Linda– Wish I could make it–unfortunately i’m working this weekend–
Becky has to work saturday…… and I’ll be putting struts on her van……. wish we could make it….. need to hear the drum.
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