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November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #1903
I was just curious to know if there are particular ailments that Southeastern Siouans suffer more from than the general population?
For instance in my family we have diabetes, depression and anxiety disorders, cancer, blood pressure or blood flow problems, and acid reflux. Also skin pigment anomilies like red spots and white spots.
Would the ailments be similar to the Melungeon lists of ailments?
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30507I think most of those things you mention are just indicative of Native American ancestry and I think can pretty much be rectified if we could go back to eating wild game and organic vegetables without all the added processed condiments.
Now if I can just figure out this urge I have to run naked through the woods with a tomahawk.
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30517I think a whole lot of the problems experienced today can be linked to the crap they have added to our food. So many young girls today are developing too early…and that is mostly coming from milk that has come from cows that are fed growth hormones. I also think that is why we have so many kids with allergies and developmental disabilities….we are killing our own society with all the additives. That’s mainly the reason we have decided to keep trying our hand at growing things in the yard and persist in my mom’s garden…to control what goes in our bodies.
About the running….you’re on your own there…not touching that with a ten foot pole…..nope….walking away….
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30520Since I posted this three years ago I have taken Anatomy and Physiology I and am in the last weeks of my Anatomy and Physiology II class. I have discovered some interesting things during these courses.
Your both completly right. Our food supply is very much tainted with all kinds of dangerous chemicals and hormons. Some of the preservatives that are used are neurotransmitters which means they could possibly have an effect on the brain and the nervous system. Many of the preservatives that we see in food only began being used some time around the 1970’s and 1980’s. Same with the newer pesticides, which some are being linked as part of the cause of Bee Colony Collapse Syndrom. Last year the Bee industry lost 24% of their colonies and this year its 35%. So honey will go up in price again as well as fruits and veggies.
Milk is an interesting subject. I never have been able to drink milk in great quantities nor ice cream or cheese. Having said that when I was growing up my uncle ran a dairy farm and often we would go and get fresh unpasteurized milk. The milk in the grocery store just doesn’t hold a candle to fresh milk in flavor. Also in America we do not have system in place to test all our cattle and dairy cows for bovine leukemia which is caused by a virus. It has been theorized that a dairy cow with this virus could pass it on in the milk. Whether or not it could cause leukemia in humans, I’m not sure.
I know that all my dad’s siblings have had cancer and died from it along with diabeties complications. I did find out that 100% of men will get prostate cancer if they live long enough. Luckily breast cancer rates have been dropping by about 2% every year for the last few years. Hopfully some day the FDA will wake up and do something about all the preservatives and pesticides, but I will not hold my breath.
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30523*Nods* in agreement about the aforementioned topics: re: pesticides, growth hormones and the like. As to milk…I drank goat’s milk and also have a general lactose intolerance…I breastfed all of my 5 and they prefer Soy milk but it is getting more “trendy” and costly…as are the organic fruits and veggies but, on the upside, there are a few local farmer’s stands that I have visited. I made all of my kid’s baby food from scratch using organics and refrained from meat in their diets until at least 2 or 3…having read years ago that teh chemicals in commercially produced foods are not tolerated by their immature neurological systems. I always have grown chemical free strawberries because I also knew that they were the one fruit that you just cannot clean effectively when grown with chemicals. If I had more space int he yard I’d surely grown more organics but alas…there are more available at local stores but they do coem at a heavy price.
As to family diseases…the ONE thta is just ridiculously common in my maternal line is Cerebral Hemmorhages….associated with Migraines , High Blood Pressure and Berry Aneurysms…very devastating, sudden and most often fatal. My mother…her mother…grandmother and at least 65 other people in my maternal tree died from this cause…and this is not just a recent occurence…I have seen countless death certificates with this as a cause of death and I just wonder what in the world could have precipitated that!? It is a very frightening prospect and as to prevention…the best we can try to do is to keep our BP at bay and have brain scans occasionally to determine if there is any blockage…try paying for THAT through your insurance company…assuming you have insurance!
On a lighter note….we also have alot of the skin discolorations as well…I used to think it was because teh women in particular used birth control pills and then I realized that gramma’s and then mom’s spots became my older sister’s spots…and now that I have hit that post-40 age…VWALAH!…they foudn me too….some are light brown…others are pale white…mostly on the face, hands and arms….dang, I’m getting old now.
We have ALOT of family allergies….I mean oodles…I was allergic to somethign like 84 things as a child…and all of my children have allergies to varying degrees…my youngest son was just diagnosed with Asthma too so now we carry his “puffer” along wherever we go. As a sidenote…I am not a big advocate of early and often giving children injections….for the same neurological reasoning aforementioned….I mean think about it….they expect us to inject our babies with scads of virals in one fell swoop and expect them NOT to be reactive or even worse….at teh typical 6 month checkup they wish to administer the following: DTaP (diptheria, tetany & Petussis), MMR (measles, mumps & Rubeola), OPV (polio), and Hepatitus…and sometimes they toss the Chicken Pox injection in the mix….it is insane! I staggere them out markedly and even have refused a few…which requires a note when they get to school….and many stares and even arguments from the staff. For a very eye-opening look at Vaccinations…go to URL:
For a general overview of Cerebral Hemorrhages go to URL:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000796.htm
Mayo Clinic article about organically grown foods:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organic-food/NU00255
The Organic Consumer Assoc. has info about Bovine Growth Hormone’s usage in milk and more at URL:
http://www.purefood.org/rbghlink.html
“Liver Spots”…skin discolorations can be read about at URL:
http://skin-care.health-cares.net/liver-spots.php
Blessings to all…thanks for the thread~~~Laurie
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30526I think a whole lot of the problems experienced today can be linked to the crap they have added to our food.
Think so, too.
One to be cautious of is monosodium glutamate and it’s relatives. Lots of people are sensitive to it, despite it being called “safe”. I am one who tends to have allergic reactions/sensitivities. Sometimes mild, sometimes severe, other times not at all. Sometimes for no obvious reason. Reaction to Chinese food prompted avoidance of restaurants and other products that use MSG. Those Campbell’s creamy soups are loaded with the stuff!
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30527Some people actually go into anaphylactic shock. If anyone wants to do that next to me I am wanting to try the old field tracheotomy technique with a knife and a ball point pen. 😀
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30530Some people actually go into anaphylactic shock.
BTDT. Not with MSG, though. That is reportedly a sensitivity, rather than an allergy. Don’t mind avoiding either one. ;~)
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30534In my family all the woman have to have there gall badder’s removed from age 24-76.
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30551The MSG thing is more common in NA people than the general population. I get headaches, breathing problems with MSG. Some people have been known to go into a coma like state. And I can tell when I have had some…my nose begins to tingle.
I am careful of Chinese food, hot dogs, and salad bars. Golden Corral used to use it on their lettuce to keep it green….still won’t eat salad bar there….I have no problem asking at a restaurant. And there’s only certain kinds of hot dogs that I trust. And you can forget all the flavored chips….full of MSG. Stick with the original flavors and you’re ok.
Have only run into MSG at one pow wow…was in the seasoning in the meat….lady swore she didn’t use it…my nose said different…along with the headache that ensued shortly afterward. Will never eat Indian tacos at her stand again. You would think she would know better given the fact that NA are more sensitive to it than the average person.
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30552Oh, and don’t forget the flavored popcorns….love popcorn…but, hard to find a bag of the natural. Most is white cheddar which is loaded with the MSG. I really don’t understand why they use it….they took Accent off the market years ago…it was pure MSG….and my mama used it all the time when we were growing up….
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #30598My families number one killer is blood clots and stuff asscociated with the whole blood and heart stuff….this is genetics.
Depression and Anxiety is my thing…but I think mine just comes from growing up in one of the ghettoist neighborhoods on Atlanta’s southside….
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #31002Mousini78 wrote: Oh, and don’t forget the flavored popcorns….love popcorn…but, hard to find a bag of the natural. Most is white cheddar which is loaded with the MSG. I really don’t understand why they use it….they took Accent off the market years ago…it was pure MSG….and my mama used it all the time when we were growing up….
Becky:)
My favorite snack…and sometimes meal! Popcorn:) I buy it by the bag (BIG) and pop it in canola in a pan, oh sooo good! Think I’ll make some in a bit.
My family really doesn’t have any commonalities except thyroid (mine was…I repeat was Hyper), now I have to excercise…excercise…I can’t say the word again…lol.
The most common disease in my family would be alcoholism, I think it is in the blood:( …all those years of shinin’.
I agree with Jack, we need to get back to nature…in more ways than just for nutrition…we need it spiritually too:)
Blessings,
Shirley
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #31016nice list of names on your family surnames sammarroq 🙂
my wife loves popcorn also. I like the smartfood popcorn though….I can never get enough of that lol
November 25, 2005 at 10:37 pm #31042Ga-Nc Collins wrote: nice list of names on your family surnames sammarroq 🙂
my wife loves popcorn also. I like the smartfood popcorn though….I can never get enough of that lol
Welcome to saponitown, if I haven’t already said so…and for sharing:) I haven’t begun to read all of your posts, thanks for the additions.
I too, have been interested in the Saponi ties to Plains and Western Sioux. This came after reading Crazy Horse and Chief Red Cloud, by Ed Eagleman McGaa. He speaks of the possibility that the Sioux originated in the VA Piedmont. If you haven’t read the book, you should:) Blessings,
Shirley
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