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January 29, 2007 at 8:19 pm #25050
I suspect you’re looking at a group of ‘separtist Baptist’.
The John and Thomas Howard on the 1779 Orange Co Tax List, may or may not be related to the Stephen Howard of 1755.
The Stephen Howard referred to by Dottie on the 1755 Orange Tax List, actually lived in that part of Orange Co., NC that later became Chatham Co.
He was part of a group who came from Opekon, Va and settled on Sandy Creek where they founded the separtist’s Baptist church at Deep River (now Chatham Co) in 1756.
This was a “traveling church” which also founded a church in the Broad River section of SC in 1759. Many of the original founders left Deep River after about 2 years and some eventually ended up in what became Monroe (then Barren) Co., Ky.
Other names in the Opekon group:
Rev. Shubal Stearns & wife
Daniel Marshall & wife
Joseph Breed & wife Priscilla Avery (dau Priscilla m’d Obediah Howard – later Rev. War Vet)
Shubal Stearns, Sr., & wife
Ebenezer Stearns & wife
Enos Stinson & wife
Rev. Phillip Mulkey (grandson ?? of Phillip Mulkey, d. 1736 Edgecombe NC)
(Rev. Phillip’s son Rev. Jonathan Mulkey, mentioned often in the annals of Tennessee, m’d 1772 Nancy Howard, dau of Obediah Howard.
[children of Obediah Howard and Priscilla Avery from his Will:
Stephen Howard, William Howard, Nancy Howard (m. Rev. Jonathan Mulkey of Tenn), Eleanor Howard (m. James Thomas); Hannah Howard (m. Aaron Hays); Anne Howard.]
Rev. Jonathan Mulkey is credited – “History of the Baptist … ” with establishing the first Baptist church west of the Blue Ridge which is thought to be the ‘ancestor’ of the Jonesboro or Johnson Co., Tn Baptist church (members list in Goodspeed’s Tennessee History) and founded the church at Dandridge, Jefferson Co., Tn. Rev. Jonathan d. and left a Will in Washington Co., Tn, dated August 23, 1826, naming his wife and children living at that time).
Members of the Deep River church who went to Broad River, SC, in August 1759, were
Rev. Phillip Mulkey
Stephen Howard
Joseph Breed
Obediah Howard (Rev. War – Brandon’s Regiment, SC – d.1804, Will, Barren Co., Ky)
Benjamin Gist
Charles Thompson
Thomas Thompson
Rachel Collins
Some of these ended up in Georgia.
Summarized from “Goodspeed’s Tenn. History”; “History of the Baptist Church”; “Colonial Granville County and its People”.
Bill
January 29, 2007 at 8:19 pm #25282I just located a web site that lists : Wm Heyward b. 06-13-1702 (it sometimes was used as Howard) 1702 married Elizabeth (unk) -1735.
( His father is listed as: Wm Heyward 1658-1719 married to Mary Hobday.
(His father : John Hayward ( ? -1660) Married :Margaret Clarke.)
son: Groves Howard (11-05-1733), Born Chesapeake Bay, MD , died (01-07-1807) Granville Co,NC. married Hannah Allen (Mother Frances (unk), Father, William Allen. They married March 17, 1760.
Children: HOWARD
Sarah b. 12-02-1761
Allen ” 02-16-1763
Mark ” 06-15-1765
Littleton 02-18-1767
Barnett 11-04-1768
Frances 03-04-1770
(Frankie)
Armelia 11-11-1773
(Milly)
Ellinor 12-20-1775
Mary(Polly)02-24-1777
Broadie 08-11-1778
Nancy 01-06-1780
Margaret 08-25-1782
Lucy 09-22-1782(4)?
Isabella 08-15-1786
There is also another Howard line ( different):
John Howard 1729-1797
John H. 1758-1820 Rhea Co., TN sp. Sarah Roberts/Todd?
Ch:
John III 1778
Abraham 1780-1826
Sarah 1785-1844
William 1792-1836
Samuel !795-1864
+ Hannah?, Nancy, Mary, Jenny?
( John had a daughter out of wedlock with Rebecca Brittain B. 1794,
by the court. TN. later married Levi Carter Jefferson Co., TN Died 1860 in Franklin Co., MO)
son: Wm b. 1790, NC d. 06-11-1836, Bradley Co., TN.
sp. Fanny MooreMarried May 18th,1813, Jefferson Co, TN.
one dau: Pauline (Pleaney) 1817-1899 married John M. Airheart
F. Henry M. Jane Carr
Son: Wm Leonard marr. Mary Ann Ramsour
Ch:
Dora Belle
Minnie
Walter Lee m. Miss Evans
Dora Belle marr. Lindsay Burk Hawkins
sister Minnie marr: Henry Martin (Dock) Hawkins
Hawkins were brothers
Their mother was America Hindman Ready
Father, Samuel J. Hawkins
married 1850 Barren Co, KY.
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There is also a marriage 08-09-1832 between a Logan H. & Marena H.(Howards)
Logan’s father was Samuel , Mother Sarah Roberts
Marena’s Father, Abraham , Mother Dorothy Bean.
Samuel and Abraham’s father was John Howard.
January 29, 2007 at 8:19 pm #25283I just located a web site that lists : Wm Heyward b. 06-13-1702 (it sometimes was used as Howard) 1702 married Elizabeth (unk) -1735.
( His father is listed as: Wm Heyward 1658-1719 married to Mary Hobday.
(His father : John Hayward ( ? -1660) Married :Margaret Clarke.)
son: Groves Howard (11-05-1733), Born Chesapeake Bay, MD , died (01-07-1807) Granville Co,NC. married Hannah Allen (Mother Frances (unk), Father, William Allen. They married March 17, 1760.
Children: HOWARD
Sarah b. 12-02-1761
Allen ” 02-16-1763
Mark ” 06-15-1765
Littleton 02-18-1767
Barnett 11-04-1768
Frances 03-04-1770
(Frankie)
Armelia 11-11-1773
(Milly)
Ellinor 12-20-1775
Mary(Polly)02-24-1777
Broadie 08-11-1778
Nancy 01-06-1780
Margaret 08-25-1782
Lucy 09-22-1782(4)?
Isabella 08-15-1786
There is also another Howard line ( different):
John Howard 1729-1797
John H. 1758-1820 Rhea Co., TN sp. Sarah Roberts/Todd?
Ch:
John III 1778
Abraham 1780-1826
Sarah 1785-1844
William 1792-1836
Samuel !795-1864
+ Hannah?, Nancy, Mary, Jenny?
( John had a daughter out of wedlock with Rebecca Brittain B. 1794,
by the court. TN. later married Levi Carter Jefferson Co., TN Died 1860 in Franklin Co., MO)
son: Wm b. 1790, NC d. 06-11-1836, Bradley Co., TN.
sp. Fanny MooreMarried May 18th,1813, Jefferson Co, TN.
one dau: Pauline (Pleaney) 1817-1899 married John M. Airheart
F. Henry M. Jane Carr
Son: Wm Leonard marr. Mary Ann Ramsour
Ch:
Dora Belle
Minnie
Walter Lee m. Miss Evans
Dora Belle marr. Lindsay Burk Hawkins
sister Minnie marr: Henry Martin (Dock) Hawkins
Hawkins were brothers
Their mother was America Hindman Ready
Father, Samuel J. Hawkins
married 1850 Barren Co, KY.
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There is also a marriage 08-09-1832 between a Logan H. & Marena H.(Howards)
Logan’s father was Samuel , Mother Sarah Roberts
Marena’s Father, Abraham , Mother Dorothy Bean.
Samuel and Abraham’s father was John Howard.
January 29, 2007 at 8:19 pm #25316Thanks Dorothy!
I tried to look some for your Christopher and the connections of daughter Rachel . Not having a lot of luck. Maybe you should write like you said to the county. I’ll keep it all in mind if I run across anything. Sue J
January 29, 2007 at 8:19 pm #27744Interested in the name CARRIE BELL, one of my great uncles, John Fry(e), adopted a native american baby named Carrie Bell during the 1800s. I am not sure of the exact date and have been unable to find out from where she came. The Frye family were in Unicoi and Carter County, Tennessee at this time. John worked for a railroad. later some of the family crossed the state line at Roan Mountain to settle in Yancey/Mitchell County, North Carolina. I was caught by the name Judy CARRIE BELL name associated with GIST and wondered if there ws a connection.
January 29, 2007 at 8:19 pm #27781OK, when was John Fry(e) born?
(I may move this to its own thread.)
January 29, 2007 at 8:19 pm #27790my previous post was in response to Dorothy McComb’s first post on thread New Research to Me…she mentioned Nathaniel Gist had married Judy Cary Bell. I wondered if there was any connection to the Native American baby, Cary/Carrie Bell my great uncle John Fry(e) had adopted. I need to look up a more certain time frame between the removal and the civil war. The region was Western North Carolina and East Tennessee.
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