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My Halls came from Montgomery Co., NC. A fourth cousin’s father did a Y-DNA test, and his results were R1b. We share the same gr-great grandfather, Pinckney Hall, who was born in NC and died during the Mexican War. Before him, it seems the other Halls hatched out of eggs. His wife’s family came from England/Ireland and/or Germany. Still trying to make sense of it all.
Sandra,
Are you familiar with the Sarah Tyner John Harris story of she being his mistress and bearing him three children? She is in his will but so is his wife. There is speculation that she may have been a mixed-blood child herself and a DNA study was supposed to be in the works but I find no confirmation of any of this. The one son, Harris Tyner, married Nancy Adair. From this line were several Tyner descendants coming into Southern Indiana early 1800.s before statehood. I believe many Native descendants made their way into this area as it was abolitionist territory and frontier as well. Saj
I too have some Darnell ancestors from the Grayson County area and a family story of our people being native. Finding much info on the Darnells is hard but they are from Ashe and Surrey county NC there is an excellent family history site here http://www.darnellfamily.org/genealogy/darnell/tree.html
I am not related to any Darnells, but the ones I know are of English, Dutch, and Cherokee ancestry. They are around the north area of Kentucky. Sorry to say, I don’t know their genealogy.
Hi , I have just found out that one of my early Native American ancestors was named Minisiah Sally White born in 1742 Dhe Married Alexander Jeffries in 1755. Can anyone help with more information?
Thanks
Hyland
I have only been able to get as far as my Gr-great-grandmother on my Jeffers/Jeffries side of the family. Her name was Juda Jeffries, born 1803 in TN, and died December 20, 1881, in Scott Co., TN. Don’t know if that would be a connection to your Alexander.
Anita B.
Thank you Anita,
according to my cousin Thornton Jeffries Members of Alexander’s family left Va for Ohio. Kentuckey and Tennesee.
Hey there Sandra. I don’t believe we’ve met yet. My name is Bob Woolery and I live in Central MO. I have family in OK as well as many other places. I know of the Sturgill family who are OK Delaware’s. The Tyner’s I know are Shawnee’s, I know of some Butlers who are Cherokee but some are of other Tribes as well. We have many of these families out here in the NorthEastern OK area. You may want to put out some feelers and see if any of these families have the same lineage as your family.
I don’t know if you knew, but I wouldn’t use the term “Squaw” when refering to women, especially around here with our elder Ladies. That is a very derogatory, negative term. You may just as well call them a female dog in heat.
Bob
Sandra W;30069 wrote: Hall’s/Banks/Sturgill/Butler/Tyner– Cherokee/The Old Settler Roll:
I am the daughter of Douglas Emerson Sturgill m. Barbara Sturgill, then his parents: Eward Willie Stugill m. Anna Jacquiline Sturgill, then his parents: John Calvin Sturgill m. wife#1 Alpha Elizabeth Clark, wife #2 Annie Banks, then his parents: Elijah G. Sturgill m. Emmaline Louvina Creech, then his parets: David Sturgill m. Rebecca Hash, then his parents: Francis Sturgill Sr. (note: Francis Sturgill Jr., David Sturgill, Joel Sturgill were all brothers). Joel Sturgill married a cherokee squaw by the name of Seaberry therefore, joel is part cherokee.
My Grandmother: Sara Annie (Hall) Banks (thought to be of blackfoot decent??), then her parents: James Banks m. Sara Sally Hall, then Sara’s parents: Alfred David Hall m. Roxanna Polly, then Alfred’s parents: Riley W. Hall m. Janet Jane Cook; however, Roxanna Polly’s parents were: Henry C. Polly m. Martha Patsy Hall, then her parents: Anthony Hall m. Ruth Butler, then her parents: were William Butler and Elizabeth Tyner/Tiner.
l. # 2 : WESTERN CHEROKEE ROLLS
OLD SETTLER ROLL: 1851 A listing of Cherokee, still living in 1851, who were already residing in Oklahoma when the main body of the Cherokee arrived in the winter of 1839 – as a result of the 1835 Treaty of New Echota. Approximately one third of the Cherokee people at that time were Old Settlers and two thirds were new arrivals.
Name: Family G
TINER, Alexander 69 Cynthia 1 David 69 Eliza 1 Elizabeth 18 Elizabeth G. 29 George 29 Jackson 29 Letitia 29 Lewis 69 Lydia 29 Nancy 29 Nathan 69 Nathan M 69 Polly 1 Reuben 69 Ruth 1 Sarah Jane 69 Seaborn 69 Thomas 1
*note* I personally would assume that each family was listed by family group #…..so everyone with the same # was in the same family? Nancy was another name for Mary
Credit given to: Dennis Ward!!
Hope to see some results on the Tyner list. Dennis Ward
If anyone has any corrections on the Tyner list please tell me and Dennis!!
Anthony Hall married 22 Sept 1792 in Caswell Co NC to 1st Winney Harrell. Anthony Hall m. 23 Dec 1794 in in Halifax Caswell Co NC to 2nd Ruth Butler b abt 1770 in SC and died 1 Jul 1854 in Letcher Co KY. Children of Anthony Hall and 2nd Ruth Butler;
Martha “Patsy” Hall born in 1802 married 15 April 1819 to Henry Polly
Samuel Hall born 1815 married in 1837 to Susannah Vance.
Alexander “Alex” Hall born 1811 married 7 January 1830 in Pike Co KY to Susannah Morgan
John W Hall was born in 1808 in Knox Co KY and married in 1828 to Henrietta Burke. Children
James Hall “One-eyed Jim” Hall b 1799 Halifax Co VA d 29 Nov 1879 Letcher Co KY. m. 4 Oct 1822 Perry Co KY to Sarah “Sally” Johnson b abt 1801
William J “Gunsmith Billy” Hall b 1797 in Grayson Co VA d 30 October 1878 in Floyd Co KY. He is buried in Floyd Co KY. m. 11 July 1816 in Floyd Co KY to Margaret Johnson b abt 1794 VA d/o Patrick Johnson and Delilah Carter.
All Credits on Butler/Hall given to:
http://yeahpot.com/hall/anthonyhall1752.html
*2nd Husband of [6] Mary Tyner:
+William Riley Butler Abt. 1820 –
3 Ruth Ann Butler Abt. 1844 –
Tyner family were on the Cherokee Old Settler Rolls:
Credt to: Mr. Blankenship
richard hall and rachael were my greatgrand parents i was told by my aunt that rachaels last name was swarts from abingdon,va.
janice hall,rhoton
My Great-Grandfather Richard Thomas Hall was married to a Martha Leath and had about six or eight kids. After she died, he married a 17-year-old Margarette M. Newman. They had six kids. Margarette Newman is my great-grandmother, who comes from the Townsends in Oyster Bay, Nassau, New York, in the 1640s.
Greetings, my fathers mother was elizabeth jane wright from letcher co Kentucky, her mother was Polly Wright, Polly was the daughter of Jason Holbrook and Americas Morgan.mother Americas Morgan was the daughter of Mary Emily Polly and James thomas Morgan, Mary Emily Polly was the daughter of Henry Polly and Martha Patsy Hall, Martha Patsy Hall was the daughter of Anthony Hall and Ruth Butler. Ruth Butler was the daughter of William Butler and Elizabeth Tiner, I have dates and locations avail. I would appreciate info if this ancestry reflects Cherokee or Choctaw lineage. I was told Cherokee and have some family pics, thank you
Do you have dates for your family members listed here? I think mine is a different Elizabeth Jane Wright, that was married to Hiram Meeks. He was born somewhere around VA or KY in 1838, and Elizabeth was born in KY around 1839. Their children were:
George Baldwin Meeks, James C. Meeks, Sofronia Meeks, Mahala M. Meeks, Samuel Lathiat Meeks, William “Bill” Meeks, and my great grandmother Sarah Ann “Sally” Meeks Logan. I have approximate birth dates on them.
I have some genealogy on Elizabeth, and some history, but no genealogy on Hiram and several Civil War certificates of different Hiram Meeks, and a copy of a death certificate listing a Renshaw Meeks as father. I even joined a Meeks genealogy group, but they are as stumped as I am. Oh, and i have a 1900 Census from Pulaski County, KY. I also believe that Hiram may have been married before, but have no proof of that.
Anita B.
Echotah Tellico;35708 wrote: Greetings, my fathers mother was elizabeth jane wright from letcher co Kentucky, her mother was Polly Wright, Polly was the daughter of Jason Holbrook and Americas Morgan.mother Americas Morgan was the daughter of Mary Emily Polly and James thomas Morgan, Mary Emily Polly was the daughter of Henry Polly and Martha Patsy Hall, Martha Patsy Hall was the daughter of Anthony Hall and Ruth Butler. Ruth Butler was the daughter of William Butler and Elizabeth Tiner, I have dates and locations avail. I would appreciate info if this ancestry reflects Cherokee or Choctaw lineage. I was told Cherokee and have some family pics, thank you
I found a post by Swiwiti Woliwi that had some info on a James “Big Jim” Williams of Scott Co., VA. That’s where some of my Williams’ were in 1806 and I think this Big Jim is related. Family tradition says he was Cherokee – but don’t they all….ha ha. Swiwiti put her info on the Blackfoot section of Saponitown. I’d like contact with Swiwiti or anyone who is related to Big Jim Williams and Temperance Lane. Thanks! Clydene
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