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October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37312
seeker;38057 wrote: I to feel blessed to have found this place. Its a meeting place of sorts that connects people back together who were scattered. Kind of fills in a missing piece of who we all are.
Exactly, like scattered puzzle pieces, slowly putting it back together…
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37323Just being a part of Saponitown for over a decade has given me that sense of tribal identity that I was craving. Becky and I have many ndn friends on the powwow trail but you here at Saponitown are family. That’s why, when a new cousin finds us, joins and posts, I usually say, “Welcome home.”
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37324Dreaminghawk;38070 wrote: Just being a part of Saponitown for over a decade has given me that sense of tribal identity that I was craving. Becky and I have many ndn friends on the powwow trail but you here at Saponitown are family. That’s why, when a new cousin finds us, joins and posts, I usually say, “Welcome home.”
I feel the same way. Living in San Diego I worked for some of the tribes, attended powwows, and visited all the rezs (there are more in San Diego County than any other US county). In NM, where I met my wife, we went to the big Gathering of Nations Powwow, the local pueblos, Gallup. Up here there are Algonquin gatherings, the Odawa Native Friendship Center, and Idle No More events. For me SaponiTown fills a role beyond all that. Its helped me reach a much better understanding of my identity and put my family history in context. Ten years ago I had much more skepticism, mostly from listening to others. But the more research I have done and the more I’ve reached out to others the more I have been able to verify what I started learning here a decade ago.
Finding SaponiTown does feel like coming home.
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37571October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37572Beautiful!
Techteach
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37573Thank you Techteach !
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37578suthainn;38351 wrote: I finished my youngest daughters new regalia, Saponi style ! I had sent a photo to a representative of the Mahenips Band in Missouri and I received the comment “Excellent”, so I am very pleased !
Great job!
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37666October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37670Looks great! Where did you get the shell necklace?
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37672Hey thanks Marc! Everything you see, bar the small washer brooch rings, I made. If you are asking about the large disc necklace, I had read a lot on this forum about the old shell disc and its Saponi origins and that someone was talking of making some? So, I used clay and made one myself, to look close to the one mentioned.
http://saponitown.com/forum/showthread.php?1705-I-think-I-ve-found-our-emblem&highlight=shell
I know someone who knows someone who does do shell carving and they say the dust and chips are very bad to inhale, so I thought clay for the large disc would be less harmful to me and my husband drilled the holes on the smaller shells for that necklace. I distressed the clay when pliable and tried to make it look shell-like with the paint color choices and brush strokes.
~suthainn
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37673Wow….. I am impressed by your creative interpretation and your craftsmanship. Not only do I see Saponi but also Iroquois and Algonquin. Wearing it in the midwest should scream “Eastern Woodland”. My hat’s off to you, Milady. You are quite a talented artist.
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37674Dreaminghawk;38469 wrote: Wow….. I am impressed by your creative interpretation and your craftsmanship. Not only do I see Saponi but also Iroquois and Algonquin. Wearing it in the midwest should scream “Eastern Woodland”. My hat’s off to you, Milady. You are quite a talented artist.
Thank you so much for the compliment Dreaminghawk, Your words have made my week 🙂
~suthainn
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37676Yes, beautiful work.
I just noticed your ‘Uln’ name. I’m wondering if that’s a variant of Ulm, which I have. I believe Marc does too.
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37677Linda;38472 wrote: Yes, beautiful work.
I just noticed your ‘Uln’ name. I’m wondering if that’s a variant of Ulm, which I have. I believe Marc does too.
Thanks Linda 🙂 I will say, finding your forum and speaking with all the wonderful people here I can, I have gained great knowledge of my heritage!
As far as the Uln name, Im not sure? I haven’t spent much time with that name yet. I have:
Christopher Denne
1668–1724
Birth 1668 • Monmouth, New Jersey, United States
Death 6 FEB 1724 • Dennhill, Orange, New York, United States
married to
Elizabeth Uln
Birth 1672 • New Jersey, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States
Death
1772 •
Hamptonburgh, Orange, New York, United States
Mother of
Sarah Wells
1694–1796
Birth 06 APR 1694 • Staten Island, Richmond, New York, United States
Death
21 APR 1796 •
Hamptonburgh, Orange, New York, USA
married to
William Bull
1689–1755
Birth 17 FEB 1689 • Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Death 17 FEB 1755 • Hamptonburgh, Orange, New York, USA
October 16, 2007 at 2:36 pm #37678It really looks great suthainn. I had figured it was shell from the artist in that thread, wouldn’t have guessed it was clay. My eldest daughter saw the pics and wanted to work on one for herself. We went to Beaded Dreams today to get some supplies. It’s a great shop in Ottawa. It reminds me a bit of pictures and stories about my gg-grandfather Dora MCS Smith’s shop in Richmond Indiana a hundred years ago.
The building I work at in Québec is the HQ for Parks Canada. Parks Canada budgeted $4.25 million over five years to work with Métis groups to increase awareness and celebrate history. In Canada the federal government has an Aboriginal Awareness Week. Beaded Dreams came and put on free beading workshops in the lobby that week. They have had a Métis exhibit set up for the last few months.
“More than violins and sashes” the exhibit is called. Which are the two things everyone in Canada immediately associates with Métis folks. I take my daughter in to work with me to see the sashes, pouches with beadwork flowers and such, all 1800s era work. Seeing this work, what you have done, and others like DreamingHawk has really encouraged me to do more with my daughters.
This material culture is an area I’ve really learned from others. It’s great how all us descendants have found each other and brought our family’s pieces back together to share with each other and build a bigger picture. I have learned so much here, and also have more understanding of the value of my family’s piece. Our ancestors seem to have worked hard to keep genealogy, stories and values alive.
As far as Ulm/Uln goes I do not have any in my direct line. I don’t recall mentioning it, but will keep an eye out for it in future. Strictly speaking we do not have Truax/Trax/Trux in our direct line either. Through stories and pictures from our Coppock line we knew Truax as cousins. However, we only have De Trieux as a name in our direct tree – from 1600s New Amsterdam – before it became New York.
All these lines came together with the 1883 marriage of Almon Marshall and Mary Coppock in our tree. Maybe the violin thing is a stereotype, but my mother is a violinist and plays a violin gifted to her by her great-uncle Henry Marshall, who would be 10x g-grandson to Phillipe De Trieux who died 1653 in New Amsterdam. Wouldn’t be suprised to find a link to Uln/Denne/Wells somewhere on that line.
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