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Hello to all –
I am currently doing research on the Southside of VA and the NE of NC relating to Indian movement and families. I am interested in reviewing historically linked documents to surnames among families that may be connected to various Indian communities in this region. I’d like to begin a discussion of surnames to this particular area; I would also be intersted in specific references that may be documented via the historical record. Particularly I am interested in the communities of Nansemond (Pohchick), Weyanoke, Nottoway, Weapamoc (Poteskeet), Chowanoke, Tuscarora, Meherrin, Mattamuskeet, and Saponi. Having conversed with many of you in the past, please limit entries to specific surnames and researched families that are from the regions indicated. I am not nessecarily intersted in disaspora but those who remained. New information relating to Boonetown, Skeetertown, Artistown, Indiantown are welcome. I would also be interested in anything revolving around Mt. Pleaseant Baptist Church(es) form the region and Little Texas connections between VA/NC. Particular inquiry exists within the Quaker involvement in the area. I’ll be happy to entertain inquiries, but am really shooting for deposits of information that results in tangible documentation (ie: not searching for your roots, but rather connecting the existing roots via the enthnohistorical record). If you have firm data, please share as the research may eventually benefit disenfranchised people of the region. I am interested in discussions of portuguese / cuban communities, mullatoes, FPCs, and POMBNBNOMs along the VA/NC border; schools, land sales, churches, Indian slaves, welcome.
Best to all, It’s been too long.
itconani
Hope this may help your search:
I am descended through Francis Smith(abt. 1779) and his wife Massa, Saponis I believe . Other names were Routh, Redfern Good. The Rouths married Douglass’s, Gowers, Leakys, Moons, Roberts and Stouts. They migrated with the Moon Colony.
Here are some more things I’ve picked up here and there about my roots:
Lawrence W. Routh speculated in his book THE ROUTHS OF RANDOLPH COUNTY, N.C. that it was probable that
some members of the family of Jacob Routh (of Sandy Creek) followed the migration of “hundreds of citizens of the
Piedmont section of North Carolina” across the mountains into present day Tennessee, and that accounted for the lack of
information on some of these descendants.
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Issac ROUTH b. 3 Aug 1829 in Wayne Co., IN had parents James Henry ROUTH b. 14 Jul 1805 in TN and Mary
HOOTEN ROUTH b. 9 Sep 1808 in KY or OH. James Henry’s parents were James ROUTH b. est.1875 and Rebecca
GOWER ROUTH b. est. 1785. Many of those died in the 1800s in Nettle Creek Twp., Randolph, IN. I am searching for
persons researching or related to this family.
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Henry B York – (1732-1817) – Henry B York. Born on 6 Aug 1732 in Pipe Creek Settlement, Carroll County, Maryland.
Henry B died in Welks Co., NC in 1817, he was 84. Henry B first married Name Unknown. They had the following
children: i. Edmond (1755-), ii. Samuel (1755-1868) iii. Mollie. Born in 1757. Mollie died in Randolph Co., NC on 23
Sep 1823, she was 66. Mollie married Jacob Routh, iv. William. Born in 1760. William first married Elie Unknown.
William second married Barbara Alred, 14 v. Eli (1771-1853), vi. Elizabeth. Born bef 1790. In 1814 when Elizabeth
was 24, she married Daniel Thornburg, in Welks co., NC, 15 vii. Eve Dorothy (1792-1858) On 15 Jan 1789 when Henry
B was 56, he second married Margaret Lenderman, in Randolph Co., NC.
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1788 Petition
To the Honourable the General Assembly of the State of North Carolina
The Petition of Sundry Inhabitants of Randolph Couny humbly Sheweth that a good Court House Prison Pillory &
Stocks have been lately Erected at the Cross Roads, in, and for the use of, the said County; That Some people however
Seem to be dissatisfied therewith & perhaps may send a petition to the Assembly, to get the Said Publick Buildings
removed, or in other words, to Cause a new Set to be Erected at some other place; We Your petitioners therefore humbly
pray that the may be continued at the Cross Roades; and we further pray that an Act of Assembly be passed to lay of &
Establish a Town at the said Cross Roades, and Your Petitioners as in Duty Bound Shall ever pray etc.
Joseph SMITH James SMITH John SMITH James ROUTH Jacob ROUTH Wm. SMITH William THORNBERY
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From: Cathy Lynn Routh< cathyr@mcube.com >
Subject: Cherokee TAYLORS
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:11:58 -0700 (PDT)
I am sending a list of surnames that are connected to my large Cherokee Indian
line. These are all surnames that are either Cherokee or that married a
Cherokee.
Bates Fields Long Routh
Brown Gott Maw Skinner
Buffington Gourd Mayes Smith
(From Suzanne-these are only a few names I extracted from the list)
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sue
…continued
Jacob Routh son of Isaac C
Posted by: Sam Redding (ID *****2493) Date: August 10, 2005 at 18:49:27
I’d appreciate any corrections or additions to the following. Especially I am interested in information about Jacob, son of
Isaac C. and Mary Blakely who died in 1835 leaving several children who were raised by kin. Thanks.
Edward and Deborah Hammer Routh
Edward Routh’s family was probably not from Wales, although his wife’s mother was and perhaps his own mother as
well, but had lived in the Welsh Quaker Tract in Pennsylvania before migrating to Virginia and then North Carolina.
Edward Routh was the brother of Zaccheus (or Zachariah) Routh who moved from North Carolina to Mississippi. They
are perhaps the sons of Lawrence Routh.
Edward’s wife, Deborah, was probably the daughter of John or Johannes Hammer (born about 1683 Palatinate,
Germany) and Jane UNKNOWN (born 1689 in Wales). Deborah was born in Plymouth Township, Philadelphia County,
Pennsylvania. The Hammers were Quakers. Deborah’s brother, Abraham Hammer, signed the 1785 Petition in Randolph
County, North Carolina, to have the Court moved. He was in the southern part of the county and clustered in a group
comprised of Isaac Redfern, Jacob Routh, Joseph Routh, and Edward Routh.
In 1754 Edward Routh and his wife Deborah sold property in Frederick County, Virginia, and moved to Randolph
County, North Carolina.
Jacob and Martha Redfern Routh
Jacob and Joseph Routh were sons of Edward and Deborah Routh [another source says they were sons of Jeremiah
Routh], and they married sisters. Jacob married Martha Redfern (or Redfarn), and Joseph married Mary Redfern.
Isaac Redfern, the brother of Martha and Mary, in July 1788 received 200 acres in Randolph County, North Carolina, by
a State Grant, located on Flat Branch adjacent to Edwards and the County Line. [From Randolph County, NC Land Deed
Abstracts, Books 1-5, 1779-1794 by Barbara Newsome Grigg. Copied at Randolph County Library, Ashboro, NC.
Jacob Routh was born in 1745-47 in North Carolina, married Martha Redfern, and migrated to East Tennessee with other
families in the 1790s. In 1802, according to minutes of the Paw Paw Hollow Baptist Church in Sevier County,
Tennessee, Jacob and Martha [Redfern] Routh were among the original members in 1802. This was evidently while the
church was located in Knox County and before its 1820 move to Paw Paw Hollow in Sevier County, Tennessee.
The following excerpt from an article (1820 Baptist Church moves from Knox County, TN to Sevier County, TN IN
THE SHADOW OF THE SMOKIES, Sevier County, Tennessee Cemeteries published by the Smoky Mountain
Historical Society. Page 45) reports:
In March 1820 the church members met and agreed “to move her residence to a place called Pappaw Hollow in Sevier
County.” Previously the church had been located in Knox County. In the minutes of Paw Paw Hollow Baptist Church for
May, 1822 we find where the church appointed a committee to “view a place for a graveyard.” The committee, made up
of “Brothers” John Lockhert, Moses Long, Jacob Routh and Zachariah Routh, made a report in the same meeting that
they had viewed and laid off a burying place. The report goes on to say that many of the early families are buried there
and mentions specifically the “Ruths” and the Douglas families but it also says that none of the stones are marked and
there is no exact information on those buried there. It does not reveal the exact location or the name of this church before
it was moved to Paw Paw Hollow or why the congregation decided to move.
General Routh says Jacob’s son Zaccheus and wife Nellie joined the church in 1820. Jacob’s son John and his wife
Elizabeth Mashman were members by 1821 and that “Other members of Jacob’s family were his brother Isaac and his
wife Mary W., who were members until they were dismissed by letter in Aug. 1821.” Note: Kenna Routh of Baldwin,
KS has read these church records and relates that there was no specific relationship stated between Jacob and Isaac Routh
in these records. Male members were all called “brother”, but it was only in relation to the common membership in the
congregation. Internet information indicates that the Paw Paw Hollow Baptist Church was an offshoot of the Boyd’s
Creek (Sevier County) Baptist Church and was formed “in the forks of the Holston and French Broad Rivers, Knox
County December 22, 1802″.
Jacob Routh died on June 29, 1827 in Jefferson County, Tennessee. In his will written September 26, 1826, Jacob is a
cabinetmaker from Jefferson County and leaves his estate to his wife, Martha, with his son John as executor.
While Jacob Routh stayed in Tennessee, many members of his brother Joseph’s family migrated to Ohio with the “Moon
Colony” between 1806 and 1811.
Isaac C. and Mary Blakely Routh
Isaac C. Routh, son of Jacob, was born in 1772 in Randolph County, North Carolina, married Mary Blakely in1794.
Isaac died in Grainger County, Tennessee in 1840. Mary Blakely was the daughter of Charles and Margaret [Davis]
Blakely.
Charles Blakely was born about 1736 in Ireland and died after Oct. 17, 1816 in Knox County, Tennessee. He married
Margaret Davis, and they had eleven children, all born in Montgomery or Smyth County, Virginia, very near Frederick
County, Virginia. Jesse Blakely, a son of Charles and Margaret [Davis] Blakely, born Dec. 25, 1777, married Polly
Kerns, was received into the Paw Paw Hollow Baptist Church by experience in February 1803. Paw Paw is where Jacob
and Martha Redfern Routh were members.
It seems likely that Isaac C. and Mary Blakely Routh had nine sons, and that the eldest, Jacob, born about 1795, died in
the 1830s, leaving children who were then raised by his brothers. This would be consistent with a story passed down by
Edward, son of Jacob (born 1825, son of Jacob described here). The story says that Jacob died in 1835. Upon his death,
his children were distributed among his brothers, some of whom were bound for Missouri. Sons Jacob and John, in 1837
when Jacob was 12 and John 10, were living with Uncle Stephen and Aunt Sarah. The two boys did not like their stern
Uncle Stephen, and ran away to live with their Uncle Isaac Routh, a Methodist minister in Polk County, Missouri. They
walked the 600 miles to Missouri, and found that another brother was living with Uncle Isaac. In 1846, red-headed Jacob
(Jake) and 100 other men from the Humansville area of Polk County rode south to Mexico to fight in the Mexican War.
Jake returned to Polk County, married Caroline Smith, who gave birth to William on December 27, 1849; Caroline died
shortly thereafter. He married Eleanor Robinson a few months later, they had 6 children, and she died in 1862. He then
married Ellen Owens in 1864 and they had 4 children. Jake and Ellen’s children were: Grace, Sarah Amanda, Arthur
Edward, and Samuel. In the 1900 census in Cedar County, Missouri, Jake was 75 years old, and was in the home of his
son, Samuel, and his wife, Hannah, and their children.
This story also comports with the fact that a Jacob Routh signed an affidavit supporting the pension claim of Thomas J.
Gillihan, and stating that he was the brother of Thomas’s wife Susan. In 1850, Susan was with her brother Jacob in the
Polk County, Missouri census. He was 21 and she was 16. Thomas J. Gillihan was in the home of his mother, Elizabeth
Webb, in the 1850 census, and was 17 years old. The census was taken on September 25. Thomas and Susan were
married five days earlier, according to court records. Also in the 1850 census, near the Webbs, is John Ruth, 23, born in
Tennessee, his wife Mary, 20, born in Illinois, and their children Martha, 2, and Francis M., 9 months. Close also is
Francis Ruth, 25, born in Tennessee, his wife Elizabeth, 20, born in Iowa ?, son Owen, 3, born in Arkansas, and son
Ambrose, 6 months, born in Missouri.
In 1860, Thomas Gillihan (Gilam) was in the census in Richland Township, Washington County, Arkansas. He was 28,
as was his wife, Susan. He was born in Missouri and she in Tennessee. Their son James was 9, born in Missouri.
Daughter [Rebecca] Jane was 8, born in Missouri. Son Thomas was 3, born in Missouri. Daughter Malinda was 1, born
in Arkansas. Next to the Gillihans in the census is Jacob Ruth, 30, born in Tennessee, and his wife Elinder, 30, born in
Tennessee. Their children were William, 10; Mary, 9; James, 7; John, 4 all born in Missouri. Also, Missouri (female), 3;
and Nancy, 3 months, both born in Arkansas. So the Gillihans and Rouths moved to Arkansas about 1857, and they
settled next to each other, where they farmed. This Jacob is probably the brother of Susan, and the two were living
together in 1850 in Polk County, MO.
Isaac C. Routh died in December of 1840 in Puncheon Camp, Grainger County, Tennessee. An inventory of his estate
was recorded on January 6, 1841 in Grainger County. The sale was administered by Stephen Routh, and notes were
recorded against John Routh, Stephen Routh, Hezekiah Routh and Hugh Routh. Also recorded in Grainger County Deed
Book D, page 76 is: “From Aaron Rook to Isaac Routh, September 23, 1813. Isaac Routh of County of Sevier sum of
$200.00 for 40 acres north side of Clinch Mountain on the forks of Puncheon Camp Creek joining the land of Richard
Shockley.” Asa Routh, grandson of Isaac and son of Stephen, is included in the book, Tennessee Pioneer Baptist
Preachers. He is described as “a great warrior for the Lord,” and the book details his many forays into small towns in
rural Appalachia where he burned cards, smashed liquor bottles and baptized scores of new converts in the nearest river.
Asa was married three times and had 29 children.
Children of Isaac C. and Mary Blakely Routh
sue
…cont.
Children of Isaac C. Routh and Mary Blakely were:
1. Jacob (born 1795) (probably the father of Jacob, John, Stephen, Susan, two other boys, maybe Benjamin and Francis
who were raised by Jacob’s brothers after his death in 1835)
2. Stephen (born 1797 in Sevier County, Tennessee, married Sarah McCluskey)
3. Hezekiah Routh (born July 2, 1798, probably in Sevier or Blount County). See below.
4. Jonathan (born July 4, 1800, Sevier County, married Catherine Barringer; Jonathan and Catherine Routh had two
children before moving to Greene County, Illinois in the spring of 1830 and two more children in Greene County before
Catherine’s death on October 16, 1835, shortly after the birth of her fourth child. Jonathan then married Elizabeth
Brown, on January 6, 1839 in Greene County, which became Jersey County the following year. Elizabeth was the widow
of Vincent Brown. Jonathan moved to Fannin County, Texas in 1845, where he became the county sheriff, married a
third time without divorcing Elizabeth who remained in Missouri, and died in 1864.)
5. John (born 1805 in Tennessee, married Sarah Benton)
6. Isaac (born June 5, 1809 in Grainger County, Tennessee, married Frances Gillihan (daughter of Thomas and Lucy) in
Greene County, Illinois, on October 23, 1831; this Isaac was a Methodist minister in Missouri; he performed the first
marriage in Polk County, Missouri—“Jeremiah Yancey and Mary Thompson, August 11, 1830, Squire Isaac Ruth
officiating.” Isaac is listed as an early settler in Jackson Township, Polk County, Missouri. Taken from Goodspeed’s
History of Polk County.)
7. Hugh C. (born 1813 in Tennessee in Tennessee, married Mary Elizabeth Brown)
8. Levin (born 1817 in Tennessee, married Violetta Brown, daughter of Alexander (Sawney) Brown, Jr.)
9. William Jeremiah (born 1824 in Tennessee, married Hannah Elizabeth Mills)
Jacob Routh was the eldest son of Isaac and Mary Blakely Routh, born in 1795. He died in 1835, probably in Grainger
County, Tennessee. We believe his children included Jacob (born 1825), John (born 1827), Benjamin, Francis, Stephen,
and Susan T. (born 1834).
Jacob Routh, son of Jacob, signed an affidavit supporting the pension claim of Thomas J. Gillihan, and stating that he
was the brother of Thomas’s wife Susan. In 1850, Susan was with her brother Jacob in the Polk County, Missouri census.
He was 21 and she was 16. Thomas J. Gillihan was in the home of his mother, Elizabeth Webb, in the 1850 census, and
was 17 years old. In 1860, in Washington County, Arkansas, next to T.J. Gillihan in the census is Jacob Ruth, 30, born in
Tennessee, and his wife Elinder, 30, born in Tennessee. Their children were William, 10; Mary, 9; James, 7; John, 4 all
born in Missouri. Also, Missouri (female), 3; and Nancy, 3 months, both born in Arkansas. So the Gillihans and Rouths
moved to Arkansas about 1857, and they settled next to each other, where they farmed.
Stephen Routh was the Uncle Stephen in the story of the children of Jacob who lived for a while with their Uncle
Stephen.
Hezekiah Routh, son of Isaac C. Routh and Mary Blakely, served in the War of 1812 with the name Hezekiah Ruth and
received a pension under the name Hezekiah Routh, signing his name. Hezekiah enlisted at the age of 16 in the War of
1812 and served in Hiwassee Garrison on the Tennessee River, guarding Creek Indians. He deserted but was granted an
honorable discharge on December 16, 1814 with 3 months and 12 days service. He was described in his military record
as 6 feet tall, red hair, black eyes, red complexion, and a farmer by trade. Hezekiah married Elizabeth Posey on October
3, 1818 in Blount County, Tennessee. Elizabeth had been born in Tennessee on June 4, 1800. She was probably the
daughter of Joseph and Jane Reaves (or Reeves) Posey who were married in Greene County, Tennessee on July 7, 1797.
Joseph was on the tax list in Blount County in 1801. In 1830, Hezekiah and Elizabeth and five children were in the
Monroe County, Tennessee census, and in 1841 they were in Cedar County, Missouri, probably arriving that year. The
children of Hezekiah and Elizabeth Routh, all born in Blount County, Tennessee:
1. Joseph (born 1820 in Blount County, Tennessee, married Jane Lea) and was in 1870 census in Cedar County, MO.
2. Jane (born 1821 in Blount County, Tennessee, married Stephen Teague)
3. Martha Melissa (born 1824 in Blount County, Tennessee, married a Shields, then Alfred Hawker, and then Solomon
Loveall)
4. Cora (born 1826 in Blount County, Tennessee, married Benjamin F. Loveall)
5. Mary (born 1828 in Blount County, Tennessee, married Jacob Lindley)
6. Shambric (born March 25, 1831 in Blount County, Tennessee, married Alzirah Douglas) in 1870 census in Cedar
County, MO with wife Alzirah and sons Isaac, James, and William.
7. Susan T. (born 1833 in Blount County, Tennessee, married Thomas Jefferson Gillihan [Geehan in marriage records])
See section on Thomas Jefferson Gillihan. Susan may have been daughter of Hezekiah’s brother Jacob who died in
Tennessee, and Susan was raised by Uncle Isaac in Missouri.
8. Margaret (born November 4, 1835 in Blount County, Tennessee, married Isaac Phipps)
9. Isaac (born November 4, 1835 in Blount County, Tennessee) in 1870 census in Cedar County, MO, with wife
Elizabeth and son Stephen.
10. Thomas (born 1838 in Blount County, Tennessee, died in Civil War)
Hezekiah and Elizabeth Routh lived in the Gum Springs Community south of Stockton, in Cedar County, Missouri from
1841 until Hezekiah died on December 23, 1876 and Elizabeth on November 9, 1883. Elizabeth’s death certificate listed
her nationality as Welsh, which may have been the assumed nationality of the Routh family.
Notes for Hezekiah Routh:
CENSUS DATA:
1830 E. TN, Monroe Co, pg 130, 001001-220001
1 male 10-15y Joseph
1 male 30-40 Hezekiah
2 females under 5 Cora and Mary
2 females 5-10yr Martha and Jane
1 female 30-40 Elizabeth
1850 Cedar Co MO, hse #319
Hezekiah Ruth 52 TN
Elizabeth 49 TN wf
Jane 28 TN dau
Martha Shields 25 TN dau
Shambric Ruth 19 TN son
Margaret 14 TN dau
Isaac 14 TN son
Isaac D. Shields 1 MO gson
1860 Cedar Co MO, Lynn TWP, P.O. White Hair, 28 Aug, hse #688
Hezek Ruth 63 TN
Elizabeth 60 TN
Shambrick 29 TN
Isaak 24 TN
Thomas 22 TN
Jonathan Routh, son of Isaac C. and brother of Hezekiah, married (2) Elizabeth Brown 06 January, 1839 in Greene Co
(Jersey Co) IL. Jonathan and Catherine (Barringer) Routh had two children born to them before moving to Greene
County, Illinois in the spring of 1830. Two more children were born in Greene County before Catherine’s death on 16
October 1835, shortly after the birth of their fourth child. Jonathan married, second, the widow Elizabeth Brown on 6 Jan
1839 in that part of Greene County which became Jersey County later that year. Elizabeth had children by her first
husband, Vincent Brown, and became the mother of three more children by Jonathan between 1839 and 1843. The
combination of “my children, your children, and our children” apparently became too much for compatibility and
Jonathan went to Texas in 1844, located in Fannin County, and returned to his home in Jersey County, in the spring of
1845. He and the four children by his first wife loaded their separate property and moved to Fannin County, Texas, in the
fall of 1845. Although he told Elizabeth that he did not intend to return, he did not obtain a divorce from her and thus she
remained his legal wife until his death in 1864. Nevertheless, Jonathan married a third wife, Nancy Thompson, on 27
March 1852, in Fannin County, without telling her of the existence of another wife, and became the father of five more
children by her. Jonathan died on 21 August 1864, in Fannin County, and in 1871, his legal wife Elizabeth brought suit
against the surviving children of Jonathan for a one-half interest in his property. After a local jury rendered a verdict in
favor of the defendant, Elizabeth appealed and the Supreme Court of Texas handed down an agreed judgment on 10
September 1883, awarding Elizabeth one-fourth of Jonathan’s property, or $750.00, of which $100.00 was to be paid on
or before 1 December 1883, and the remainder in five equal installments with 10% interest per annum. The sheriff of
Fannin County in 1860, settled near Trenton in 1850. Jonathan Routh (1800-1864), a native of North Carolina, lived in
Jefferson County, Tennessee and Green County, Illinois before traveling to Texas. His brother Jacob (b. 1813) also
settled near Trenton with him. Jacob was married three times and was the father of 11 children. Porter Cemetery is
located 15 miles southwest of Bonham, Texas. (Norma McClelland: letter: 18 Oct 1997)
Probable Children of Jacob Routh, son of Isaac and Mary Blakeley Routh
John Ruth, in the 1850 Polk County, Missouri census, was 23, born in Tennessee, his wife Mary, 20, born in Illinois, and
their children Martha, 2, and Francis M., 9 months. Close also is Francis Ruth, 25, born in Tennessee, his wife Elizabeth,
20, born in Iowa ?, son Owen, 3, born in Arkansas, and son Ambrose, 6 months, born in Missouri.
Susan T. Routh married Thomas J. Gilllihan.
Francis Routh was in Arkansas when Thomas J. Gillihan was there. Francis Routh purchased 40 acres in Benton County,
Arkansas on November 15, 1854. In 1900, a Francis M. Ruth was in Polk County (Mena), Arkansas, age 78 (born 1822),
born in Tennessee, with wife, Martha B. But also a Francis Ruth was in Polk County, Missouri, in the 1850 census, 25,
born in Tennessee, his wife Elizabeth, 20, born in Iowa ?, son Owen, 3, born in Arkansas, and son Ambrose, 6 months,
born in Missouri. Francis is possibly one of the brothers of Susan, Jacob, Benjamin, Stephen, and John. His wife was
Elizabeth UNKNOWN.
sue
…cont.
Their children were:
Owen Routh, born 08 September, 1847 in Benton Co AR.
Ambrose Routh, born 1849 in Polk Co MO.
Martha Routh, born 1851 in Benton Co AR.
James Routh, born 08 December, 1854 in Benton Co AR.
Nancy J. Routh, born 1856 in Benton Co AR.
Francis Stephen Routh, born 15 October, 1857 in Benton Co AR; died 1936 in Shady Grove Cem., Sevier Co, AR. He
married Sarah Elizabeth Thomas Unknown in ?.
Albert Routh, born 1860 in Benton Co AR; died Unknown in ?.
Jacob S. Routh, born 08 June, 1867 in Hickory Co MO; died Unknown in ?.
Easter E. Routh, born 1868 in Hickory Co MO; died Unknown in ?
Stephen Routh signed affidavits on behalf of Thomas J. Gillihan in Greene County, Missouri, on October 6, 1865, and
was said to then be a resident of Greene County.
Benjamin Routh purchased 80 acres in Washington County, Arkansas on September 1, 1849. In the 1860 census,
Benjamin was 46 (born 1813), a preacher born in Tennessee, with wife Ann, and 8 children. In 1870, B.M. Ruth was a
57 year old farmer (born 1813 in Tennessee) with wife S. M., 2, born in Missouri, and 3 children, including a 17 year old
born in Missouri and a 16 and 14 year old born in Arkansas. Benjamin Routh purchased 80 acres in Washington County,
Arkansas on November 15, 1854.
sue
Originally posted by sue
Edward’s wife, Deborah, was probably the daughter of John or Johannes Hammer (born about 1683 Palatinate, Germany) and Jane UNKNOWN (born 1689 in Wales). Deborah was born in Plymouth Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania. The Hammers were Quakers. Deborah’s brother, Abraham Hammer, signed the 1785 Petition in Randolph County, North Carolina, to have the Court moved. He was in the southern part of the county and clustered in a group comprised of Isaac Redfern, Jacob Routh, Joseph Routh, and Edward Routh. In 1754 Edward Routh and his wife Deborah sold property in Frederick County, Virginia, and moved to Randolph County, North Carolina.
Hi Sue,
Abraham Hammer (and his wife Rachel Meeting) mentioned above are my 7th great-grandparents. Their son Elisha Hammer is my 6th GGF.
I had posted a little bit on Elisha awhile back at:
http://www.saponitown.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1388
Stacey
Interesting to read about the Mormon Hammer’s, their persecution and flight west. There are also Mormons in my Jones line that marries into my Hammer line. They also went west, eventually to Utah. Some other mixed-blood descendants I’ve contacted on that Jones line lived next to reservations in Utah. It is interesting that many Catawba tribal members later converted as Mormons.
I posted a bit about that in this thread
Hill, Fulton, Evans, Mitchell, Banks, Byrd, Evans, Price, Lash, Kinzer, Richardson, Spease, Gray, Smith, Joshua, Daniels, Johns, Banks, Stewart, Redcross, Price, Sawyer, Scales, Payne, Richardson, Gwynn, Stultz,
Cummings, Fulp, Hauser, Poindexter, Scales, Bowser, Findley, Martin, Valentine
Locations: Surry, Wilkes, Rockingham, Halifax, Warren, Northampton, Caswell, Bertie, Person Forsyth, Stokes North Carolina
Prince George, Amherst, Albemarle, Bedford, Powhatan, Pittsylvania, Surry, Halifax, Isle of Wight, Scott, Cumberland Va.
Probably left a couple out. Nearly all were Free People of Color and ALLEGED Indians in some instances.
DNA Relatives(my grandmother’s) in order match up to mainly
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[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tucker[/TD]
[TD]5th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Underwood[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]29[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sanders[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Payne[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Evans[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]27[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Walton[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]27[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Allen[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]25[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD=class: count_column][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Thornton[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]23[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stewart[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]King[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Black[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Wilson[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dawson[/TD]
[TD]5th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]White[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bryant[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Richardson[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Berry[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Edwards[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Watson[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jenkins[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mills[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]17[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Davis[/TD]
[TD]You[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Owens[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hopkins[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Warren[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Thomas[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hall[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Freeman[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Thompson[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Adams[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Morgan[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ross[/TD]
[TD]3rd Cousin[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Robertson[/TD]
[TD]5th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kelly[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Carter[/TD]
[TD]Grandson[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Wallace[/TD]
[TD]4th Cousin[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD=class: count_column]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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Welcome to Saponitown, CTGray. Obviously you are not new to the search for the truth of our ancestors. Where are you on your search? What are the specific answers you currently seek?
Both of your lists of surnames are filled with names we carry. We seek, share and compile all the info on our peoples that we can find. I hope you will feel welcome to call Saponitown your “home” while you search.
sue;17565 wrote:
I am descended through Francis Smith(abt. 1779) and his wife Massa, Saponis I believe . Other names were Routh, Redfern Good. The Rouths married Douglass’s, Gowers, Leakys, Moons, Roberts and Stouts. They migrated with the Moon Colony.
About the Moon Colony:
There are a number of allied families that are on the 1779 Randolph County tax list that show up in south west Ohio with the “Moon Colony” centered in Clinton County, Ohio. These families had followed the Quaker migration trail from pa to VA to NC to TN and now to OH. Some arrived shortly after Ohio became a state in 1803 and the Virginia military district and the early counties had been carved out of the Northwest Territory. Thomas and John Beals, John Hobson, John Stout and James Moon were here by 1804 and were soon joined by members of the Routh, Thornburgh, Mills Hammer Beck York Leaky, and other families, whose names all appeared on the 1779 Randolph County tax list.
Pa -Va – Nc – Tn – Oh- In
At first, North Carolina Quakers went very largely to Tennessee, while Virginia Quakers, being nearer, went directly upon to Ohio. In this way, Virginia Quakers took possession of
Ohio, while North Carolina Quakers pressed on to Indiana."
A very interesting statistic that by 1850, fully one-third of the population of
Indiana was said to have been made up of native North Carolinians and their children, caused by both those migrating Quakers and non-Quakers who accompanied the Quakers for economic reasons.
They started a migration to the Northwest. Whole counties in
Indiana and Ohio were peopled by Guilford County stock and their homes were
left vacant. The first emigrants went west by horseback, with pack horses,
following the buffalo trails. These animals had come to Guilford to feed on
the great peavine pastures in the winter. In the spring they went again to
the northward, fording the Buffalo Creek, the Haw River, the Dan River, at the
best fords. Buffalo trails and buffalo fords were an advantage to those
seeking outlet westward.
About 1830, four hundred families went west from Guilford County. The efficient cause was slavery, the old, old story of the time.
Sorry I took so long to respond. Yes both sides of my family lead me to Free People of Color all along the NC/Va border and into Tenn. and Kentucky. One set converged in Surry County NC, while the other around Rockingham NC and Henry County Va. They originated in places like Halifax, Surry(Va), Mecklenburg, Prince George, Goochland, Amherst, etc….., but my Evans and Mitchell branch go over to Granville County and Chowan in N.C. The Hill family is a tough nut to crack. They settled in Surry County with the Zachariah Hill bunch that migrated over from Caswell and before that Surry Va. where Zachariah appeared as a bondsman for Goins and a few other families.
http://i.imgur.com/A6HGZhi.png
Even the enslaved members were allegedly Indian descended……. http://prntscr.com/612scq
still living in Mount Airy, aunt Gracie Valentine Evans at 101 years old………. http://prntscr.com/612vqe
http://prntscr.com/6135z6 another great aunt
Also descend from the White Hausers of Surry and Bethania NC http://prntscr.com/612xrf
The front two are relatives, but you can see deep admixtures in all of these men from four different families…………
Relatives as well… http://prntscr.com/613940
My own dna three generations later
They were also related to these Revels in Surry County NC who are also primarily African American now. Not sure if they claim to be Lumbee, but they definitely are the same Revels family of Robeson cty
I wonder if your Evans branch connects to mine.
Elizabeth Evans 1795-1851 Person CO,NC
married 10-5-1819 (Person)
Richard Ryland Moore 1793-1839
daughter of
Samuel Evans
Ann (Parker)
This is one of my deadends.
Not sure if this will help, but I just ran across this today, its historical with many surnames.
Kind of all over the place, but does cover your areas to an extent.
I posted this also on my Harrell thread.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gowenrf/malangu.htm
Dreaminghawk;37706 wrote: I wonder if your Evans branch connects to mine.
Elizabeth Evans 1795-1851 Person CO,NC
married 10-5-1819 (Person)
Richard Ryland Moore 1793-1839
daughter of
Samuel Evans
Ann (Parker)
This is one of my deadends.
Quite possibly. I’m almost positive that they are the same Evans out of Virginia who were FPOC. Benjamin Evans(b. about 1773) and Lucy Mitchell were married in Granville County before settling in Stokes County NC where he served in the War of 1812. His daughter Tabitha Evans settled in Forsyth and married a man of mixed Native American heritage named Solomon Sawyer of Person/Caswell general area. I am also related to quite a few Moors by DNA
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