[naelady]

My ggrandmother was a MO. Collins on her mom’s side, so I am too Her fathers line is Ross/Boots cherokee/chickasaw lines.

she had lots of stories to tell when I was young.

I have had a funny memories and I don’t know how it fits into the collins history. but I wanted to tell it so that maybe someone could help me make it clearer in my mind as to what it was she did say. She told the stories most when I was from 7 to 18 or so. but most then I was younger like 10.

Alot of the stories I remember her saying aren’t what she exactly said , but what I thought about what she said is what I remember most , so I am having to translate it from “childese”.

OK One of the things I remember has to do with the Collins name Mahan or Mahanip as I have since learned that it was.

But I think that this word MaHan has something to do with a tribe or the place Manhattan.

and that the tribe or the place Manhattan has a connection to Pocahantas and MOhawks. I know that later saponi go and are adopted by mohawks. but could there be a earlier connection than than that? it maybe just in the Collins lines.

does anyone know how this all ties might tie together in some way? I have done some reading on the histories on the front pages and I can’t find a clear link to combine these elements to have it make some kinda sense. I think in the context of what she was talking about at the time. this is about really really old histories. we had been talking about before this was her cherokee side of her family which she was talking about info in the very early or pre 1700’s and she jumped to the Name Mahan)ip?) I think to describe their orgins or part of their orgins at an equal time to her other family lines.

thank for any clues that might put this in some kinda “reality” not just foggy memory land!

renee

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[Linda]

The Mahenip would have a connection to Pocohontas, being that the VA Siouan were neighbors to the Powhatan, and in the very end days there was some merging. It was the Cayuga of the Six Nations who adopted the Saponi/Tutelo, not the Mohawk.

What stories did she tell? Do you remember any? Thanks for sharing!

[naelady]

No, no actual stories with this part. it was just a kinda history lesson as best I can remember.

just lots of names of tribes I couldn’t say, much less remember. but the tribe or the Island of Manhattan was mentioned in context to history of her “Blackfoot ” in my Head “pony indian” family . I have been looking for info that ties some of the tidbits I remember together in some logical way for awhile now. and hesitated to say anything about it. but went ahead as it is one of the last things I haven’t been able to make sense of yet. I don’t know that she said we were related to pochantas but associated to the tribe or something like that maybe. so that would work if the saponi and Powhattan were associated tribes at one time.

I don’t understand the Manhattan thing though.

thanks for the response Linda renee

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