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Thanks to all of you on this forum, I have learned so much more about American history and Native culture. So much more than my college courses could supply. The information you have shared has been priceless to me. Priceless. Your opinions have been priceless.
-Deirdre
Deidre,
We, your native family will be with you in spirit as you take this journey. WE LOVE YOU!
Haliwagirl
Originally posted by Deirdre
Post Note:
Thanks to all of you on this forum, I have learned so much more about American history and Native culture. So much more than my college courses could supply. The information you have shared has been priceless to me. Priceless. Your opinions have been priceless.
-Deirdre
Congratulations Deirdre!
It feels good to know that you have found home.
PS, those DNA tests have a lost of flaws. I think that he is right. All it takes to mess up this biotrace, is to have one non native female ancestor, anywhere along the line.
Good news!
Lynne
Congrats!!!!!!
I am so happy for you and your findings!!! It feels good to be accepted and to know in your heart that you are being guided in the right direction. May God continue to guide your paths!
Erica Lewis:)
Actually, Lynne, it’s just the MtDNA test that tests only the pure maternal line. We wasted $200 on that one. There’s a better one that gives you percentages of all the locations your Ancestors derived from.
Linda,
Could you pass on more specific information? I believe the native blood is strongest through my father’s father’s line. Not the females.
-Deirdre
I am going to take the mtDNA test at some point. My ndn comes from my grandmother, g grandmother, gg grandmother, ggg grandmother and than my gggg grandmother who we can find NOTHING about all we know is her name was Rebecca. All of my family and all the extended cousins I have been lucky to meet all say it stems from Rebecca. Although in my searches I have found other ndn ancestors too. Just recently I learned that a man I have known my whole life is related to me through Rebecca and he says he is ndn too and from that same line. I use to call him Uncle Ted but as it turns out he’s my cousin his g grandmother was the sister of my gg grandmother. His wife has been my mother’s best friend since elementary school. So now we really are family although we have acted as family my entire life. it was good news for all of us.
Linda
Hi Lewis.
I don’t think that you should have to do anything to yourself. You are what you are.
Its just my attitude…so I’m just saying that now…but…lots of Indians don’t look like motion picture Indians. The public is just going to have to learn to deal with that. And in fact, a lot of Indians are going to have to learn to deal with that too.
Be Well,
Lynne
Originally posted by Linda
Actually, Lynne, it’s just the MtDNA test that tests only the pure maternal line. We wasted $200 on that one. There’s a better one that gives you percentages of all the locations your Ancestors derived from.
Interesting!
I’d be interested in looking at the science behind that.
Cheers,
Lynne
Hey Lynne! You are right–we are what we are. However, there are too many people that will try to catagorize our ‘race’ as ______ based on our appearance. Ambiguity is frowned upon. It’s unpleasant, to be sure, but we are who we SAY we are and what we know our people to be. But the prejudice is there–folks get treated on what their race is perceived to be; not what it truly is. BTW, cousin, I luuuv your posts!
Lewis, I got frizzy, ‘coily’ hair, too. There are plenty of non-African-American folk with some majorly kinky hair–just check out some of the sights like curlygirl.com. If they do ask you why do buy that stuff if you’re ndn then tell them it’s because you hair likes it. It’s really none of their business what you put on your hair, eat off your plate, or anything else. You might be asked anyway even if your hair was straight. I think Spirit said her hair was straight and she still gets questioned.
Lewis this is a good topic. Actually it’s kind of funny in a way. Not you but the concept of what makes a person indian. You know it is not just persons of any discernable black ancestry that try to alter their appearance to look ‘more’ indian. There are those indians with more white ancestry that dye their hair ‘jet black’ and tan to ‘appear’ more indian. And there ARE southeastern indians that ‘relax’ their hair to make it more straight or less kinked. And some southeastern indians with curly hair–men particulary cut their hair really short so it appears more straight–because if it grows out they are going to have some major curl or kink. I don’t think that whatever hair product you use is anyone’s business. But of course the reality here is that in the old days in the south– the pencil test for ‘good hair’ was used on persons of mixed indian ancestry to determine if they were indian–so if the pencil stayed in your hair–you were not indian. If the pencil fell out–you were. What an arbitrary way to determine ancestry, when in one family you can see many different hair types.
Again, good topic–AND why is anyone in your bathroom to know what you use or don’t use? Sapnoni1
When we discovered Columbus lost at sea he thought we were indians from India. Think about it, we could not have been too light of a complextion. We had to have had brown skin for him to think we were indians from India…. I think we ourselves don’t really know what we really looked liked.
Just my humble opinion.
Haliwagirl
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