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Hello I thought that starting this thread would help the Girls get going with some ideas for clothing etc. This image link is for the Chitiamcha people of Louisiana, however a simular cut to clothing was found all across the southeast and up into the northeast, I hope this helps. http://www.nealauction.com/toplots/americanpaintings/0348.html
That’s a really beautiful painting. Who did it? The dress is reminiscent of what the women out here are currently doing for regalia — it’s called the southeastern women’s dress. There’s a story being told that Pura Fe of Ulali dreamt the dress, though when I asked her about it she said that story has been a bit embellished. It’s similar to a Cherokee tear dress, which has a skirt of gathered layers, and a ruffled neckline. There’s ceremony involved in making the neck opening. I made mine several years ago and will try to get a picture posted.
The image is from Neal Auction in New Orleans;the painter was francois Bernard (French b.1812, active New Orleans,1856-75?)
Portrait of two Chitimacha Indians, oil on panel, signed and dated 1870 sold on October 7, 2000 for $63,250.
This type of an unknown painting is huge news for everone especially the Chitimacha people.
This is what we need when it comes to our folks. Iam not sure if her pendants are shell or silver could be either.! Everything about this painting makes it such a treasure.
I hope that EVERYONE enjoys this !
This painting gives me the impression that she is bare foot for some reason, but if you imagine a nice pair of dark brown center seam moccasins being worn it wouldn’t be out of place.
The Chitimacha folks had a very unique moccasin style all of thier own, only one pair exist though.
Some of the other features in this painting is the childs small beaded sash and the lady’s silver brooches, being worn as medallions, they are almost clear enough to remake them,- they may also be shell ,but probably spainish silver coins hammered out.
The beads are really neat, the yellow looks to be “white lined yellow”; white heart(lined ) red beads, cobalt blue perhaps the blue replaces the black , for the “red- yellow-white and black”. and there’s more still !
here’s a question for the forum, how many men are interested in a shirt style etc, just for either casual wear or cultural settings pow wows etc, also if your man is not ESD he still may want to wear it “just for you” ladies!
At the top of this thread is a link to a Chitimacha woman and child, exactly how it became attributued to this tribe I don’t know , they said that it was the basket, but for me it’s still up in the air.
Anyway the shirt style is something that was very commmon across the southeast this one appears to have a small cape attached to it, rather interesting.
The silver pendants can also be worn as earrings .
This could be adapted to the eastern Siouan people, by first restyling the shirt (adding ribbon work or embroidery, beadwork or frills etc) and dress decorated to match the shirt, but also wearing a open lace shawl tyed around the waist, in memory of the small skirts that the original women had worn at contact, if you’d like to add a shawl for shoulder wear a solid cloth shawl could be used; made from velvet etc.
HI Tom..I was looking at the basket. What can you tell us about it? It seems that the sides are done differently than the bottom. Does the bottom look woven or carved? I know it is just a painting, but I was curious.
Barb G
I like that dress the more I see it. It does have details I think would be a bit more becoming than what’s commonly worn as southeastern women’s cloth regalia down here. i think it’s something to consider if we’re going to come up with something distinctive in cloth for summer wear.
Hi Tom and everyone.
Can y’all help me understand what’s happening here? Are the members of Saponitown trying to make a ‘new’ tradition in clothing? Or find examples of the ‘old’ clothing or?
I haven’t been active here enough to understand what the idea is here, and what y’all are trying to accomplish.
Thanks
Barb
Yes, we are considering adopting elements of this outfit to use in making summer regalia. Here’s the image:
Well the basket base is woven differently from the sides and is a typical work basket from the Louisiana area, older baskets took more time and back then there were no clocks etc.
The womans dress here was a common responce to European materails, the dress shown here was common every where and so in each area there were very small differences such as the overall cut how they were decorated and why, aswell as colors etc, the more images that we have here the more that can be developed.
remember that the first styles of clothing would ahve been a direct result of both worlds coming together and the style would reflect the adaptation of traditional values to a newq amterial and a first contact pressure. see the following link for an example of this…
http://www.geocites.com/ceh437/Lesson9.html
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