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September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18588
hello also do a search on Choctaw clothing, styles were shared and things moved around somewhat, mens clothing especially, womans clothing was fairly set, makes sence men did most of the socializing!
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18596There’s a large selection of native prints, mostly nice, geometric patterns at an area Wal-Mart. I’ve been keeping an eye on it, and noticed a bolt on the discounted table today, so I bought it up. As I left with it, I had an idea of using it as if it were a blanket skirt, a simple wrap around kind of thing.
We found some mention that we fringed our garments with feathers. How would that be done? I’m assuming it would be small fluffs or hackles, maybe an inch and a half long, sewn around the edges. Does that sound right?
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18604Linda
Some Walmarts also sell an edging made with feathers. I bought some at one in Durham last year. I have not used it yet…have not figured out where it would be appropriate. I think you can also find it at Michael’s or fabric shops.
I was also at Walmart in Roxboro yesterday…they have some really nice prints on the shelf. I have also found that the one in Durham has a lot of “Native” looking stuff.
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18605What is the name of the fabric from Wal-mart so we may see what it looks like? I am new to this. Thanks!
Erica:)
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18609This is an over view article, it has good info and some nice ideas, all based on recorded accounts.
http://www.living-history.net/Fort/FTSEINDIANWOMEN.htm
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18610Also this next thread has a picture of a woman from the Yamacraw people, probably the Yamasee from Georgia , but notice that the style of dress is a precuser to what we are talking about here.
http://www.uwf.edu/english/Panther-Yates/indians.htm
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18768Okay Girls here’s a link that shows what I have been trying to work towards a stly, cut of dress that needs to be considered as a style forthe Eastern Blackfoot woman, it’s not pow wow and with some small changes and additions it could be amde very distinct, hair care and earrings etc will be covered on another thread. here’s the link http://www.lenape.org/pages/photos.html
search this ite as there is another lady in a bright red dress that will prove interesting aswell.
Keep in mind the addition of a netted shawl tyed around the waist in front and back like an apron.. center seam moccasins, silver brooches and strands of beads, etc.
Click on museum history at the bottom of the page is Down load the “Welcome to the Lenni Lenape historical society” flyer in this thread is the woamn in the bright red dress.!
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18776Which of the outfits were you talking about? I couldn’t find a bright red dress.
And Tom, do you know anything about what technique would be used to make a feathered fringe to a dress? I’m thinking of wrapping a small bunch of hackles together, then suspending them from cord or sinew to the dress. If brass bands were used they’d even tinkle a bit. Do you have any information on how feathers were worked in this way?
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18780Linda,
You have to download the PDF file for the flyer at the bottom of the page on the museum history page…it took me three tries to get it to load. On that page there is a picture of two ladies in a red dress and a little girl in a pink dress. You can enlarge the photo to see some of the details, but, I couldn’t get a clear picture. The caption says one of the ladies is Teresa Runningdear. It does appear to be a cloth dress with a wide ruffle on the bottom and some trim. Not really what I would call a tear dress, though. Looks like she has on a wide leather belt. Take care, Becky
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18787well this feathered fringe is interesting, all feather work has the ability to either be very well done or rather tacky,. So if it is feather wrapped cord you have a choice of either horizontally adding the feathers or vertically doing so, the horizontal work looks kinda fuzzy and the vertical wrapped coard is very neat looking, and is started at the bottom the horizontal type is “feathered” while be twisted into form.
The latter vertical wrapped cord will have an apearance of quality to it, and it’s what I’d go with, you have to tye the ends secure and fairly tight but not stretched because when you are done you don’t want it to shrink,.
start at the finished end, or bottom and begin by securing a binding thread to the thong, then start wrapping adding feathers as you go, until you reach the top end. keep the feathers small and if hackles use only the tips and measure each one to the same length, you can create bands etc,
In order to secure the feather into place you may want to add a spoy of glue that is flexable or sew it into place.
for a lot of fringe feathers may hve been just tyed into place, and some of the fringe left bare.
I hope that this helps.!
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18788Sorry, I can’t picture what you’re saying. Is there a photo of the vertical method you can find?
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18791Linda – To me looks style similar to yours? What do you think, and has everyone seen picture/image of your cloth dress? 🙂
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18796Linda there’s no written material for instruction on feather work that I know of, and there needs to be one, perhaps I can photograph something as I make it, I am thinking of doing some of this work soon.
I would like to know more about the reference that you mentioned earlier, can you post some of it ?
More later!
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18828It’s on here somewhere. Some of the original source material that was posted recently. My brain’s not working. It described a woven fabric from the bark we were discussing, that was fringed with feathers.
September 9, 2004 at 9:31 pm #18900Just wanted to add that in the area of clothing/fabrics, I am studying using natural material dyes. Not just browns, greens, and yellows–some very vibrant and beautiful colors that I thought could only be obtained with synthetic dyes. I’ll keep y’all posted on what I learn.
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