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I am new to this site but hope some one can help me out. I have been working on my family and found some cousins that had heard the same family story as I was told about my ggggrandmother Rosanna Roxanna Buck Morss,her father was Walter Buck and was born in Vt. in1776 was said when he married he settled in the great lake area when his wife pasted away he married the house keeper who was part French and part Indian and they later had this daughter. The mothers name was either Chloe or Flora that is were the storys differ is the name. They married about 1825. Walters last name was thought to be Buque with the former wife and the changed to Buck.In the 1880 cencus they lived in Russia TWP. in Lorian County in Ohio.
If any one could help get me started again I would be thankfull, I just don’t know where to start looking for the info on the Indian part and would love to trace it back. Thank You!! Brenda
Are you sure that was VT and not VA? The Buck name is known among Tutelo descended families at Six Nations. The Tutelo were first found in western Virginia in the early 17th century, in the early 18th century they were adopted by the Cayuga and that’s how they came to be at Six Nations in Brantford Ontario. Judging by the number of Indian people in the same area in Virginia to this day, it would seem that the name Buck was taken while the Tutelo were still in Virginia. Ohio was a common migration area for the Saponi-Tutelo.
Here’s a post I did about some Virginia Bucks http://www.saponitown.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176&highlight=carrie+buck
Hi Brenda,
I did find Walter Buck in 1830 Lorain Co., Russia Twp, Ohio, age 50 to 59, wife 40 to 49.
Others in household:
2 males 5 to 9.
1 male 15 to 19.
2 males 20 to 29.
1 female under 5.
1 female 10 to 14.
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I couldn’t find him before 1830, unless he is the Walter Buck who served in the Essex Co., NY militia during the War of 1812.
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Also in 1830 Russia Twp:
Jonathan Buck, age 80 to 89 with 1 female 70 to 79 in household.
This Jonathan Buck is listed on the Ohio Census of Pensioners of Revolutionary & Military Service, p.175, dated June 1, 1840, as 90 yrs old, so he must have been around 80 yrs old in 1830.
This may be the same Jonathan Buck who appears on a muster roll of Revolutionay War Soldiers of Vermont.
This Jonathan could certainly be Walter’s father but doesn’t solve the question of Chloe/Flora. Maybe Walter lived in Canada?? when he met her?
I didn’t find a record of any “BUQUE” as a surname in the early U.S.
I am searching for our Native ancestry. I am descended (g-grandfather from Harry M. Buck). His descent is as follows: Madison Hun Buck b. 1837 in Sackets Harbor, Jefferson County, NY. He married Helena Victoria Haskell 11 MAR 1874 in Lake Mills, Jefferson CTY, Wisconsin. His father was Salomon Hun Buck b. about 1808, possibly in or near same area. (Jefferson County, NY). I know there was a Chief John Buck. Is there a relation?
Thanks for any help,
Nadia Graham
Harry Madison Buck b. 1878 married Elizabeth Julia Scott b. 1880 in Maywood, Illinois, daughter of Thomas Scott b. 1840 (Irish from Canada) and Julia Smith b. 1840 (Scottish/English? Warren Co, WV). You can find this family in the 1880 Maywood Census, But Julia is listed as 35 and that’s not possible since her mother Ellen O. Hill, died Sept 15, 1843 in Warren Co., KY and is buried at Smith Cemetary of the same. Women lie about their age!
Julia Smith’s family (she married Benjamin Covington Smith) lives in Warren County, KY, not WV as I said at least once in the previous post. Her family (Hill/Robinson) was from NC and SC and Benjamin’s (Smith/Covington) are from Richmond Co., NC.
Julia Smith married Thomas Scott and was the daughter of Benjamin Covington Smith and Ellen O. Hill (you can find this family on rootsweb).
Has anyone had any luck relating my Madison H. Buck or Soloman H. Buck to the Tutelo tribe or Cayugas?
There are so many things I have learned, mostly from Bill Childs, not just about my family, but about Native Americans and genealogy in general as well. There were known Saponi families married into my ancestor’s family (the Benjamin Covington Smith family) in Bowling Greens, Warren County, KY. Some of the names include: Potter, Hill, Turner, Robinson, Cooksey, Bass, Scott, Tarrant, Kirby, etc.. However, regardless of how suggestive this is, we still don’t have any direct evidence that my direct ancestors (Smith, Scott, Buck) are in fact, Native. However, the coincidences are mounding (no pun or disrespect intended).
I have this further info on the Bucks:
Solomon Buck b. 1808 (Hun was probably not his middle name as I thought before) possibly Lewis Co., NY. He lived in Sackets Harbor at some point since this is where Madison Hun Buck (my gr-gr-grandfather) was born in 1837, and then Hammond, NY and Gouverneur, NY in the 1840’s. He had daughters, Martha Amelia, Elvira, and Jessie O. and most likely his wife was Mary Beach Parsons, also from the Mohawk Valley (Johnstown). We do not believe Mary could have been Jessie’s mother (and since she was still alive when Jessie was born, it is possible that Solomon was not the father either). Solomon was in Cook County, Ill. from 1850 on. We don’t have a death date or cemetery.
Madison Hun married Helena Victoria Haskell as a second marriage. Madison married Margery first, also in Lake Mills and had a daughter, Mary with her. Margery’s tombstone has been located and photographed. Madison’s children with Helena were: Edith Myrtle b. 1876, Harry Madison (my gr-grandfather) b.1878, Martha Amelia b. 1880, and Wallace Chester b. 1881, all in Delafield, Waukesha County, Wisconsin. Helena left Madison sometime in the late 1880’s or early 1890’s and went to California. We have no death date or cemetery location for Madison.
Harry married Lizzie Scott in 1904. Lizzie’s sister, Josephine (or Jessie) married Williard Morgan (he is associated with the Wells/Chambers family and in turn with Johnson’s) around same time and many of the Bucks then end up in Rogers, AR (my grandmother Elizabeth Madison Buck is b. 1906). Harry and Lizzie eventually end up in Sprindfield, MO. Josephine and Williard and daughter, Virginia Livingston Morgan (who marries William Randolph Harris) move to Texas.
There’s probably more, but with a little luck someone may see this and be able to place a name here or there that would help me to find the truth about my ancestors and give me some peace.
Thank you to anyone who responds. Peace, Nadia
I was wondering about my Buck connection and whether my Buck family ties in with any of the others.
George Cline married Susannah Buck on June 8, 1770 in Ulster County, NY. She was the daughter of Jospeh Buck. Susannah was born around 1750 but the place is in question. Some say Germany but I have yet to see the data to back that up. She died around 1840 Benton Township, OH Monroe County Jericho Cemetery. They had something to do with a settlement called Buckhill Bottom. (See Cline Connections on this Forum)
George Cline died April 14, 1801 Mill Creek above Matamoras, OH Washington County.
These family lines are from my dad’s mom’s side.
Not sure of the connections on this for any particular Buck line but this link has some interesting history. I haven’t had a chance to read through it yet but it does mention Buck families in connection with the Susquahanna areas of interest.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/heverly/ulsterch.htm
Thanks for the replies. I looked at the links and gave Susannah some thought. I haven’t heard this name, Susannah, throughout my journey. I do know though that my Harry Madison Buck was in PA at some point, because someone on rootsweb had pictures of him that were taken in PA that matched pictures that my uncle had. I would have to look again to see where the pictures were taken. But, I believe the timeframe was the late 1800’s.
My uncle had insisted on German ancestry too for quite some time, but with all the “coincidences” now piling up, he is finally starting to admit that Native ancestry looks more plausible. His grandfather, Harry, raised both he and my Mom (passed in 1996) and used to tell him not to, “walk like a damn Indian!” I think the enforcement of hiding Native ancestry down through the family lines, sometimes made a turnabout into what I can only term racism. I have seen this happen in my own family of origin. We are also half African (my father was African from Africa) and we were all dark-skinned, black haired, brown-eyed children (often asked what tribe we were from, having a very Native look I guess). In any case, two of my brothers, who were teased and abused a lot in Virginia, where we grew up in part, actually became rodeo riding redneck cowboys (which came with the whole picture if you know what I mean). I think they just sort of psychologically denied their true identities.
One other thing I forgot to mention, I have now found another Harry, b. 1805 Lewis Co., NY, who may be a brother or other relation of Solomon. And it is quite possible that there is an older Solomon as well, who may have fathered both.
The pictures were taken in Tyrone, PA which is in Blair County. I believe Warriors Mark is near here if that means anything to anyone. Does anyone know about this area? Thanks, Nadia
Nadia,
My folks were from that area. They were in the Huntington, Juniata, and Mifflin County area. If you look here : http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/bedford/military/militia-1.txt,
you will see Bucks on this muster list. Right below Jonathon Buck is my gggggrandfather, William Sinkey. I am not sure of William; I have come to believe that he was mixed, but I am sure his wife was NA or mixed. Her name was McCartney, reputed to be able to carry a bot of water on her head while carrying one in each hand. They are buried in the cemetery with my Blackfoot ancestor, Nancy McLane from Beaver County. I have done a lot of looking at things from that area. There is a book online about the early history of the area, I believe on the Juniata College site, titles something like “History of Buffalo Valley.” There also is a web site http://www.motherbedford.com and other county history resources online if you google.
Techteach
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