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Nadia,
Several things here. Powhatan Lunsford? Which Lunsford familly?
I’m intrigued by families that have named their children Powhatan. I have within the Tanner line Powhatan Tanner. And Powhatan Hunt and Powhatan Allen. The Powhatan Allen family shows really wierd census results. Parents white and 3 children as sons/daughters as black.
Anyway, there is a large group of Smith’s connected to my Allen line in Ky. that descend from Peter Smith and Jemima Simpson. Peter’s will was in Caswell co NC but he was born in Va. His father was James. I have to wonder who all connects to this line on the forum. And descendants marry into Tucker and Wall, etc. Peter born circa 1725, would have to look it up. Curious.
Saj
Hey Sue,
My connection to the Lunsford’s is that my gr-grandfather’s (Harry Madison Buck) sister, Martha Amelia Buck married Joseph Lunsford. Here is the data that Yoda…errr…I mean Bill Childs gave me:
I think this is Thomas B. Lunsford’s family. The name of his younger brother b. 1856, may raise a question,
1850 Stafford Co., Va Census; Eastern District; 17 August; p.14A; Family # 225:
Margaret LUNSFORD, 93, f, – , none, $1000, Va.
James H………………, 40, m, – , farmer, $0, Va.
Margaret E……………, 34, f, – , Va.
THOMAS B………….., 12, m, – , Va.*******
William L………………, 11, m, – , Va.
Margaret E……………., 8, f, – , Va.
James H………………., 6, m, – , Va.
Elizabeth………………, 4, f, – , Va.
Seddon…………………, 2, m, – , Va.
Frances……………….., 1, f, – , Va.
The 1860 census adds the following children:
Parmelia, b.abt. 1852, Va
Mary L., b.abt. 1854, Va.
Powhatan, b.abt. 1856, Va. 🙂 🙂
The independent city of Fredricksburg is immediately south of the Stafford County line:
Virginia Marriage Records for Fredricksburg, Va:
James Lunsford marr’d Margaret English on 24 Mar 1836.
1900 Washington Co., Ark Census; ED116 Springdale Twp; 28 June; Sheet 31 A; family 646:
LUNSFORD, Thomas B.; farmer, W,m, Jun 1838, 61, Va, Va, Va.
…………….., Joseph; son, W,m, Feb 1878, 22, Mo,Va,Va.
…………….., Lucy P.(?); dau, W,f, Apr 1883(?), 17, Mo,Va, Va.
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1880 Shelby Co., Mo Census; ED60 Jackson Twp; 17 June; p.33; family # 342:
LUNSFORD, T.B.; W,m, 42, Minister, Va, Va, Va.
…………….., Bettie B.; W,f, 40, wife, Va, Va, Va.
…………….., Thos. B.; W,m, 8, son, Mo, Va, Va.
…………….., Wm. J.; W,m, 6, son, Mo, Mo, Va.
…………….., JOS.; W, m, 2, son, Mo, Mo, Va.*******
Peace to you,
Nadia
Sue (SAJ),
Found another that connects distantly to me through the Smith/Covington to Covington/Moorman line…Powhatan Cox…use edit and find “Powhatan” on this rootsweb tree.
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=:a32727&id=I1585
Also, for your interest, you can find Walls in the Covington line as well…and now Yoda (Bill) told me how a Chiles became Cherokee and this connects to me as well (through the Moormans). I bet he’s real happy hahahahhha.
Peace,
Nadia
I’m still hunting Bucks, but without much luck. I did find a Solomon Buck in the late 1700’s to 1801 in Washington County, NY near the Iroquois “big carry” place (portage from Lake George to Lake Champlain). This is also near Fort Edwards which was started by a fur trader who married a full-blood NA. My gr-gr-gr grandfather, Solomon Buck was born 1808 NY. That’s all I know of him, except for his wife and children’s names and where he was at certain times. I have no idea who his parents were and have not been able to tie him to any “white lines.” It seems there are quite a few Buck families in this NY area (Mohawk Valley…land of the Iroquois Nation) that can not trace their lines back to the well researched “white” NE lines of Bucks.
I found that this Solomon Buck in Argyle and Cambridge married an Hellenor/Eleanor/Elinor Mount d.o. James Mount (can’t trace him). She had two sisters: Elizabeth and Mary. Elizabeth married a McCintosh. I also found out that Solomon bought property in Cambridge from Andrew Shoulder/Shoulders (can’t trace him).
Next, I find that there was a Solomon Buck in Lewis County, NY (Harrisburg or Harrisburgh as it was spelled then) in 1807. He was a captain in the Lewis County militia in 1805. I’ve consulted the historians in this area and other areas where I can find different Solomon Bucks in this timeframe to no avail. I’ve posted on genforum and rootsweb and find that other people have suspicions of NA ties.
In view of the several ties I have found, through the assistance of Bill Childs, of my Smith line (NC and SC to Warren County, KY) to known Native lines, and my gr-gr grandfather, Thomas Scott who married into this Smith family and who’s daughter married into the Buck family, I am reasonably suspicious that the Buck family had Native ties, but can not find any evidence of such.
I have communicated with Dan David of the Canadian Six Nations and at first had some hope that I could find a connection to Chief John Buck, last of the Tutelo chiefs. However, for whatever reason he has not responded to my further inquiries and I have no idea who Chief Buck’s ancestors or relations are. Without this crucial information or some other historical records from NY I am at a loss as to guess where Solomon Buck came from.
If anyone can help I would certainly appreciate it, otherwise I will continue to be a proud member of the Non-Proved Internet Indian Nation hhahahhaha. I did see that there is at least one Shoulders (the Andrew that Solomon bought land from did not have an “s” at the end) family on this forum that appears to be of Native descent. The fact that the Washington County, NY Solomon Buck bought land from him doesn’t say much I guess unless Andrew’s lineage could be shown and some sort of tie to this Solomon other than just a land purchase…..does anyone know if the elusive Shoulders (Ms. Collins?) family had any members in the NY area in the late 1700’s?
Thanks much and peace,
Nadia
Nadia,
I noticed this post again and have to apologize, I have been in Northern Minnesota, and have not gotten in touch with the Buck’s where I live yet; we must be on opposite vacation schedules. I hope you will hang on a little longer, as I know I will see them the first week school starts.
Shirley
I’m seeing so many parallels in here, yet no concrete links.
My Benjamin Brower married Isabel Buck on 11 Jan 1837. Benjamin’s grandaughter Bessie Mae Gates married Dora MCS Smith. Dora MCS Smith’s daughter (my g-grandmother) married a Potter.
Benjamin Brower’s first wife was Elizabeth Bechtel. They and Isabel Buck are all brick-walls.
When I searched for them I found another Brower/Bechtel marriage from the 1820s – Sarah Brower and John Bechtel in Waterloo Co Ontario – just up the road from Six Nations. They were PA Dutch like my ancestors.
The naming of children Powathan is also interesting as there are multiple ancestors of mine named Seneca.
I can’t see a concrete connection here but feel these must be associated families. Only a feeling – but then again I had a feeling Linda’s Aunt Regina looked really familiar – before I found out that Linda and I are cousins.
TechTeach’s Mary Lovina Potter also looks like she could be related to my family.
Except Mary Lovina Potter is not related unless so distant that it fails to show. I did not lower numbers on Gedmatch though to look at that.
Techteach
techteach;37274 wrote: Except Mary Lovina Potter is not related unless so distant that it fails to show. I did not lower numbers on Gedmatch though to look at that.
Techteach
That’s true. Although, the ancestor that Linda and I share is too many generations out to show on GedMatch I believe. I have not tried a GedMatch with her to verify that though. I’m in the process of getting DNA samples into GedMatch from the generation before my mother to try and have a closer link for comparison.
The thing with some of these names is they are associated but not necessarily related families. So many of my ancestors had multiple spouses. I am a descendant of Benjamin Brower and Elizabeth Bechtel – but not Isabel Buck who was his second wife.
Did any of your ancestors come through Delaware County Indiana?
The associated families I’m looking at here all came through there. The Browers were assoicated with the Hoovers who were associated with the Goings.
This website has a list of some early families to Delaware County: http://www.ingenweb.org/indelaware/Surnames/query002.htm This list includes Pontius which is the link I have to Linda.
The families the Brower children married into were Wood, Hoover, Downing, Cross, Paul, Keene, Sisk, Riley, Wooters and Smith (mine)
I have no choice but investigate associated families because the Brower, Bechtel, Potter and Buck ancestors from this era are all brick-walls.
Not that I know of. My Potters came through Licking County, OH, and either moved on to Iowa to avoid the Trail of Tears or stayed there. Recently, I met the husband of a Potter relative who still lives in Croton, Ohio where they were. He said you always knew a Potter when you saw one by their black hair and dark eyes. He immediately recognized my Mary Lovina Potter as a Potter.
Other families came from PA to Licking County, OH to Iowa too.
Techteach
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