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Koreana,
Are you sure the name is might not be Buell rather than Euell? I have some of those and your folks took a similar route to mine also.
Techteach
No, my Daddy’s name is Euell Day Jr and his father was Euell Day Sr. The Sr one’s father died in the coal mines before he was born. It took me forever to find him in 1930 census b/b he is listed under wrong surname. (Mother remarried)
I am fairly sure that the name is NOT Buell in any way. Only because I have a Buell/ Bull line from the same area.
Never heard anything about Indian Sizemore’s. I misread the info and thought that you were writing Skidmore. The Skidmore’s, yes I would believe they were in some part NA.
Koreana:
Sorry, somehow I missed the fact that it was a first name, not a surname.
And, anyway, I was screwed up in what I was remembering. My name is not even Buell but rather it is Deuel.
Techteach
Can’t remember where I have seen/heard the name Deuel before (or something similar).
You were thinking “smart”. However, it just doesn’t seem likely with this line. Hey, but ask Bill, I need a reality check once in a while.
Love ya,
Sherry
It is a Mayflower name according to one genealogy read once and Quaker. I read that it is also seen as Davol. Sometime in the past, I remember reading that it was also sometimes listed as Beuell.
Anyway, married to one of my Potters.
Techteach
I know the Sizemore, Napier, Bowling, and Baker family all married Native Americans. I have always considered myself to be Indian 1st and white 2nd. I remember how I was actually relieved to hear alot of us can’t tolerate lactose. I always knew growing up that I couldn’t drink milk no matter what the adults said. I was adopted by my mother’s b-friend (my father’s wife-damned Days can’t keep it in their pants!) and they had none of my issues, so they thought I was being obstinant (ms?). They are all fair skinned, blonde hair, blue eyes. When I met my mother Maggie at age 5 I said, “You are my Mom, aren’t you?” I knew b/c she looked like me; dark skinned, dark brown hair, green eyes, high cheekbones. If I have all my t’s crossed and I’s dotted, I am a direct descendant of Matoaka (11th g-gm). I have the same issue of trying to confirm what was always hidden so well.;)
Maternal DNA testing for Nancy day from the following line:
Dora Day
Mourning Napier Day
Lydia Garrett
Salina Day Garrett
Nancy DAy
Has revealed the haplogroup of H, the volatile 519c mutation, and subranches of Haplogroup H as well as Haplogroup R , Haplogroup V, Haplogroup M, and Haplogroup I.
I am contacting family tree dna to find out why so many haplogroups have been identified and I am currently assuming that it is because of the 519c mutation and the only one that exists on this line.
Sincerely,
Sherry R. Huff
Haplogroup H (mtDNA)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In human genetics, Haplogroup H is a human mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroup.
The Cambridge Reference Sequence (CRS), the human mitochondrial sequence to which all other sequences are compared, belongs to haplogroup H.
About one half of Europeans are of mt-DNA haplogroup H. The haplogroup is also common in North Africa and the Middle East. [1] According to FamilyTreeDNA [2], currently the largest genetic genealogy testing firm, approximately 32% of the their database is haplogroup H. Of those H results, approximately 21% of them has a 519C mutation, which is volatile and generally not useful in characterizing subclades.
In his popular book The Seven Daughters of Eve, Bryan Sykes named the originator of this mtDNA haplogroup Helena.
I believe the James Williams you refer to in the 1850 Owsley Census is my GGGGrandfather married to Lucinda Abner. We are currently researching the data on this family. James we believe is the son of John and Rebecca Combs Williams and John the son of Philip Buck Spike Williams (Revolutionary War) married to Ann Running Fawn Williams. The later two are buried in Johnson County. Kentucky on the top of Mt. Misery and it is well named. They lived in and around Clay County which became Owsley, Laurel, Lee, Breathitt counties and in Leslie and Morgan counties also. In the time of James the county was most likely Madison County and all these smaller counties came from them. What a mess. We have some pretty solid data on this Williams line. There are a lot of them in Perry County and John and Rebecca lived there. I am related to Turners in a round about way but not through my Williams line. If any of this sounds familiar I will go on. Nancy
Ruck Sizemore was definitely native and lived in Kentucky around Clay County. If you run a search on the Sizemore family you will find loads of data by the family there. I am related through the Williams family and Abner, Baker, Parker, and Gay.
crowwoman;22184 wrote: I believe the James Williams you refer to in the 1850 Owsley Census is my GGGGrandfather married to Lucinda Abner. We are currently researching the data on this family. James we believe is the son of John and Rebecca Combs Williams and John the son of Philip Buck Spike Williams (Revolutionary War) married to Ann Running Fawn Williams. The later two are buried in Johnson County. Kentucky on the top of Mt. Misery and it is well named. They lived in and around Clay County which became Owsley, Laurel, Lee, Breathitt counties and in Leslie and Morgan counties also. In the time of James the county was most likely Madison County and all these smaller counties came from them. What a mess. We have some pretty solid data on this Williams line. There are a lot of them in Perry County and John and Rebecca lived there. I am related to Turners in a round about way but not through my Williams line. If any of this sounds familiar I will go on. Nancy
My maiden name is Williams and Phillip Buck Spike (I believe married Anne Floating Cloud) is the son of James Williams. The others you mention are descendants of James and Phillip. We have DNA proof and belong to DNA Group #2. Vicki Williams, our moderator, is a direct descendant of James and Phillip. You might know all of this but couldn’t resist answering you.
Do you know anything more about Phillip Buck Spike’s father James? We have some info. but need more proof and also who James married to.
Hope we can fill in some gaps. Clydene
Hello Clydene. Yes I am related to this line. Have not been on here in quite some time. Not that I don’t want to be..Just been too busy. Ann Running Fawn was Buckspikes Wife. Anne Floating Cloud was his mother. James his father from all that I can find out was a trader among the Indian tribes along the Watauga. He married the daughter of a Chief..and I do not know what his name was yet. Ann Running Fawn was from the Norh around the Great Lakes Area. There are several old books written on these lines but to my knowledge..not many records..some tax and court records and then Philip’s pension record along with more tax records, death records, and obituaries..It is a tough line to trace to say the least.
Koreana;20560 wrote: I know the Sizemore, Napier, Bowling, and Baker family all married Native Americans. I have always considered myself to be Indian 1st and white 2nd. I remember how I was actually relieved to hear alot of us can’t tolerate lactose. I always knew growing up that I couldn’t drink milk no matter what the adults said. I was adopted by my mother’s b-friend (my father’s wife-damned Days can’t keep it in their pants!) and they had none of my issues, so they thought I was being obstinant (ms?). They are all fair skinned, blonde hair, blue eyes. When I met my mother Maggie at age 5 I said, “You are my Mom, aren’t you?” I knew b/c she looked like me; dark skinned, dark brown hair, green eyes, high cheekbones. If I have all my t’s crossed and I’s dotted, I am a direct descendant of Matoaka (11th g-gm). I have the same issue of trying to confirm what was always hidden so well.;)
I would love to see the linage for that. I don’t think I have ever seen a complete Bolling linage before. It would be interesting to see how it progressed from England to here and to the other parts of the country.
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