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Sherry,
Mourning Napier Day was listed as Ed Day’s wife up thru the 1920 census and she’s listed as a widow in 1930. She could have m’d Mr Christian after 1930, or more likely, any Morning/ Mourning Napier who m’d anyone else had to be one of the other Morning/Mourning’s we’ve identified, and probably was.
Mourning Napier Day died 12 Nov 1970. Cemetary Record has Mona not Mourning. Mourning Married Husband # 2 17 Jan 1938, Ewell V. Unthank
New information in says that John Napier f/o Mourning Napier m. Eliza Garrett in 1874, Harlan County
Daniel Ledford m. Susan Noe 1885, Harlan County , KY
Could be.
David Noe’s relatives are in Lee Co Va and that’s next door to Harlan Co Ky. David Noe’s father is likely to be John Calvin Noe who I’m presuming, is the John Noe on the 1810 Knox Co. Tax List. Harlan Co was created from Knox Co., AND there is a David Noe in both Lee Co Va and Harlan Co Ky at the same time, so I have some remaining questions about where David and Mourning were married.
There is also a Tree “out there” stating that Mourning Harris, b. 31 Oct 1783 Lee Co., Va., who marr’d David Noe in 1818 (his 2nd wife), was the dau of John Christopher Harris and Elizabeth Grubb – that seems straight forward enough but this same Mourning Harris is claimed by an Amherst Co Va line of Harris’s 🙂
Lee Co., Va was created in 1793 from Russell Co., Va.
Russell Co was created in 1786 from Washington Co., Va.
Washington Co., Va was created in 1777 from Fincastle Co., Va., so one would expect to find Mourning Harris’s parents in Washington Co when/if she were born in 1783 (or 1780 as listed on several census records). There are 10 references in “Annals of Southwestern Virginia” to a John Harris in Washington Co before 1800 that I’ll check out tomorrow.
Well,
“Annals….” didn’t help much with your Harris line, but I’m working on another Harris line in Washington Co, Va that may be a related line…. more work to do before I could say anything more definite.
Bill
Bill, I found this on the Harlan County Harris family on rootsweb
Mourning Harris was born about 1780. She is believed to have first married Alexander Dunlap and had four children, James, Rosey, Susanna and Jane. About the time of Harlan County’s formation in 1819, she married David Noe as his second wife. They had three children: Benjamin; Mourning who married Robert Napier; and Nathan who married Sirena Farmer. David Noe died in the 1830’s but Mourning lived well into her nineties.
Susan Harris was born August 31, 1793 in Lee County, Va., and on July 8, 1814, she married John Noe, a nephew of the David Noe that married her sister Mourning a few years later. Susan, or Susannah as she was sometimes called, lived to be at least eighty years old.
I am sorry that I am not much help lately. I have been sick. Got over one problem and have ended up with another.
Sherry
Sherry,
I’m sorry to hear you’ve been sick, Hope you get well soon.
That’s good information on David and Mourning Noe. These several lines get a bit confused in S.W.Va and NC but I do see a speck of light and I’m working on it.
You mentioned that you hadn’t done much on your Sheltons and Cam William’s lines. If you don’t have the census info I referred to earlier, let me know and I’ll send it.
Bill
All I have is a few names sent to me via email from several WILLIAMS researchers.
Martha Shelton d/o
William Shelton m. Margaret Sandlin
Both the Williams line and the Shelton line supposedly came over from TN. Cam Williams is elusive. Seems that I ran across some information once that I thought was interesting. A BYRD lady was having trouble finding her William Campbell BYRD who ironically supposedly spent time in prison for a shooting in the same time as my Cam Williams. More irony…birth date for William Campbell BYRD was same year as Cam Williams. More irony…Cam BYRD (from virginia if I am not mistaken) had a step-father that was a Williams.
Bill, if you could would you check and see if a Cam BYRD, William Campbell BYRD was in prison the same time as my Cam Williams.
Sherry
P.S. Bill, I heard from four other biological relatives researching this line and none of them can find/prove who Cam Williams father and mother was. Everything is done on speculation. Cam is the brick wall. I have the Williams line in TN that Cam is supposedly from but it dosen’t seem right to me.
Weird family stories too. Brothels, spy, murder…crazy. Gives me the chills just thinking about it. If (and that is a big if) Cam Williams is/was actually Cam Byrd, who got in trouble and took on his step-fathers name…WOW. Anyway, my imagination is probably getting away from me there.
Think the world of everyone here,
Sherry
Sherry,
I ran across the “Tenn” thing, too, and there are certain indications it may be so. I don’t discount that possibility but that search turned up nothing. I think he was born in Ky and in Knox or poss. Clay Co. Nothing definite yet, but there’s still other potential clues and records that I haven’t looked at.
I hadn’t ran across the BYRD hypothesis before. I’ll look.
The arguement that he changed his name doesn’t look quite right because he’s incarcerated as a “Williams” and his family is back home as “Williams” at the same time and they all appear later as “Williams”. If he changed his name before the deed he was sent up for, due to earlier problems…… well, we’ll have to look, and the “hypothesis” may be a “family story” more “grounded” than the information we have.
Bill
Descendants of William Shelton
Generation No. 1
1. William1 Shelton He married Margaret Sandlin.
Child of William Shelton and Margaret Sandlin is:
+ 2 i. Martha2 Shelton, born Abt. 1866.
Generation No. 2
2. Martha2 Shelton (William1) was born Abt. 1866. She married Cam Williams. He was born Abt. 1860.
Child of Martha Shelton and Cam Williams is:
+ 3 i. Arthur3 Williams, born 09 Oct 1903; died 14 Jan 1977.
Generation No. 3
3. Arthur3 Williams (Martha2 Shelton, William1) was born 09 Oct 1903, and died 14 Jan 1977. He married Ellen Cumile Noe, daughter of Jarvis Noe and Cumile Bull/Buell. She was born in Harlan Co, Ky.
Children of Arthur Williams and Ellen Noe are:
+ 4 i. Willie Gene4 Williams, born in Harlan Co, KY.
5 ii. David Wayne Williams.
6 iii. Mary Ellen Williams.
7 iv. Virginia Lucille Williams.
8 v. Carl Ray Williams, born 01 Aug 1949; died 26 Dec 1995 in Gordon County, GA.
1. William1 Bull/Buell He married Lucinda.
Children of William Bull/Buell and Lucinda are:
+ 2 i. Cumile2 Bull/Buell.
3 ii. Lizzie Bull/Buell.
4 iii. America Bull/Buell.
5 iv. Rufus Bull/Buell.
Generation No. 2
2. Cumile2 Bull/Buell (William1) She married Jarvis J. Noe.
Children of Cumile Bull/Buell and Jarvis Noe are:
+ 6 i. Ellen Cumile3 Noe, born in Harlan Co, Ky.
7 ii. John L Noe, born in Harlan Co, Ky.
Bill,
I don’t know if this will help but here is something I pulled up from the archives on rootsweb. The lady that is looking for her Cam Byrd…she wrote
I just know my William Cam BYRD/BIRD is in a record out there somewhere.
I found him on:
1870 Lee Co., VA “Rose Hill” Census at age of 4 with mother Elizabeth
Byrd and stepdad, James Williams.
1880 Hancock Co., TN Census – age 15 – servant in hom eof James
Speer – 14th Civil Dist.
1888 Member of Mt. Zion Church – Hancock Co., TN
1891 Enumeration of Male Voters in Hancock Co., TN
1900 Hancock Co., TN Census
1910 Bell Co., KY Census
He died 1918 in Bell Co, KY.
I know his wife lived in Lee County, VA and just feel there are records
somewhere there on their marriage. I haven’t been able to find anything
in Hancock Co., TN so far.
Okay scratch my bird theory. She said she found her Cam Byrd on the 1900 Hancock Co, TN census. My cam was in prison in 1900.
Sherry
Hello:
Edmon Day did have parents….Beaty and Sarah Louisa Howard Day. Sarah Louisa was the granddaughter of Samuel and Chloe Osborn Howard. He also had many brothers and sisters: Aley, Elizabeth, Fanny, Arminta, Wilkerson, and Hiram…………..all who shared the same mother. Edmon’s half siblings were: Leonard a.k.a. Tip, Henderson, Rebecca and William Vinson. All of the Day children were born in Harlan County.
Sarah Louisa Howard died either at the time of Edmon’s birth or shortly after. Edmon was named after his uncle, Edmond Howard. Edmon was raised by Cammy Ledford and her Howard husband. Hiram, who was only a year older then Edmon, was raised by Daniel and SalinaHetty Day Garrett……….who I believe was an older sister of Beaty Day.
Interesting, Arminta’s first husband was a Napier.
In the 1870 Harlan County census you can find Beaty and Llody Day living together with their wives and children. Living next door is Daniel and Salina Garrett…………..along with Elizabeth Farmer Ledford, widow of Aley Ledford.
Sandy
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