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March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14506
Linda, I can’t prove any relationship between my ancestor, Nancy Dickson, and this man who led this raid near A Staunton. My ancestor I just found out bought some land 150 acres — near Staunton in 1769 I think it was, 5 years after that raid by Capt Dickson. Before that he had lived near Charlottesville about 25 miles away. It was his son James Wood that married nancy Dickson. Later they moved to Gibson County, Indiana a county that borders Pike County, location of that “Blackfoot Church”.
But I can not prove we are related to “Capt Dickson” and there may have been white Dickson’s in the vicinity too, I don’t know. We can now prove however, thanks to Bill and the help of many others, that we lived where he was one time known to be, and that is about it. Wish I could find out more about this “Captain Dickson” fella . . . as well as still wondering who were the parents of Nancy and Polly Dickson, the 2 Dickson girls that married the 2 Wood’s boys. The boys were brothrs and I bet the girls were sisters.
Bill, thanks for that info about what company he served in. It is greatly appreciated.
— for something completely different —
Vance
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14513My guess would be that the Captain Dixon who took part in the raid wasn’t a neighbor. He may have still had family in the area, but to be able to behave as a “hostile,” I would think he was living deep in Indian country elsewhere.
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14521Linda, you said —
After all, it was in 1743 that there were Tutelo documented to have risen in arms with the Seneca against the British in the Maryland area . . .
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That is interesting. Is that on the website? Wher can I find a record of that? Thanks.
I was recently shown the following website —
http://www.rootsweb.com/~indian/chbull.htm
Where it speaks of a Delaware band that settled near Morgantown and Fairmont, W Va. I believes it mentions them settling there in 1753. It says they left there for Indiana, the Wabash River, in May 1772. Chief Bull had been at war with the Whites and was in prison for a time (it doesn’t say how many years) and was told he had a choice of moving west of the mountains or death. So he moved to W Va. It calls him “Capt Bull”. Indian peoples who had been enemies were all allies by this time I guess — Delaware, Seneca, Saponi, as all saw their way of life threatened.
Incidentally here is something you might be intrested in Linda, it mentions a “Charles Harris” who was related to Chief Bull. Also mentioned are Yeager’s, and some of the Yeagers were descendants of the Germanna Colony. Yeager is also a surname associated with the Blackfoot Church in Pike County, Indiana. My Waylands were also at that Germanna Colony and my Richey/Woods/Dickson’s were near that Blackfoot Church in S Indiana.
One more thing — it reads these Delaware settled on the Wabash for a while — the mouth of the Wabash is not far from my Richey/Woods/Dikson’s, but it is probably talking about much further upstream. When the note on the Blackfoot Church historic marker reads thre were “Blackfoot Indians” living there at the time that church was founded, well these Delaware had moved to the Wabash River in the 1770s, and the church was founded in the 1790s. Could others, perhaps these “Eastern Blackfoot” have removed to the west with the Delaware of Chief Bulls band, or perhaps followed his route to the West sometime afterwards?
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You are right, Capt. Dickson would not have lived near a town he was raiding — that’s an invitation for suicide. The Delawares were at Bulltown near Freemont, W Va., during the time of Capt. Dickson’s raid, however. Is there any record of any other Indians in this region? It is probable the Shawnee may have been there with temporary hunting parties.
My Wood’s family was at Wheeling, W Va in the late 1770s I believe (am not sure when they showed up there), but Jospeh Wood/Woods entered the Army during the Revolutionary War probably in the late 1770s and definitely in the 1780s. I looked on amap. It is about 40 or 45 maybe, miles from the Freemont area where Bull had recently evacuated. They definitely would have known of him.
Vance
Vance
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14531Vance,
At the risk of this needing a new posting (make one if you want), can you list the names of those associated with the Blackfoot Church? I know that Mason was one. That is a name that is connected with my Sinkeys. Can you list others?
Cindy
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14560Cindy,
I just spent an hour looking for it — and I don’t know how to find the site anymore. There is a site that has a cemetary and a record of those buried in it.
There is also a site describing the history of the church and I recalled from memory the Yeagers were prominent in it.
It is located somewhre in the search function of this site but I got many hits. Hopefully maybe one day I will have time again and be able to refind it . . . 🙂
vance
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14561What are you looking for/
The Blackfoot cemetery post in the other Blackfoot section of the forum? That has lots of info…is that it? Sue J
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14563Hi Sue.
There is a link “somewhere” — and it should be searchable on this forum but I didn’t find it. To many hits, then I did a google search thinking that’d be faster and it got me nowhere.
One is a website that has a photo or 2 of Blackfoot church with a small article about it.
A second is the Blackfoot Church cemetary with a list of those buried in it. Someone found it 2 or 3 years ago.
The church and associated cemetary are in Pike County, Indiana.
Right now I just don’t have any free time. There is more to do that I possible will ever do. With those two links we could show Cindy where the surnames associated with the church are located.
thanks,
vance
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14570Found this here —
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/INGIBSON/2000-02/0950478685
In 1909, Robert A. Woods etal published a small booklet on the Joseph Woods line, “Joseph Woods and his Lineal Descendants”. Nancy Stein and myself, along with the help of many descendants and researchers across the United States, have been compiling data to document the information in the 1901 book, and revise and up-date the information into this generation. for the newer researchers to this list, a little background on the Joseph Woods line:
Joseph Woods (1745 – 1835) and his Lineal Descendants. Joseph Woods was born near Charlottsville, Albemarie County Virginia, August 22,1745. He was married January 28, 1768 to Mary Hamiliton of said county. She was born in 1747 and died August 26, 1829. About 1790 Joseph Woods, together with his wife and ten children, migrated to Tennessee and settled on the Holston river about ten miles from Knoxville in Blount county, where Samuel Hamilton Woods, the eleventh and last child, was born in 1791. In 1807 he removed, with all his family except his son Joseph L., to Knox County, Indiana, and settled on Du Chien (Du Shee) river. April 10,1809 he removed to Gibson County, Indiana, and settled on Turkey Hill in sec 21, T 2 S, R 10 W, 3 miles Southwest of Princeton. In 1811 his son Joseph L., and family, followed from Tennessee and settled 2 miles west of the homestead. He died January 16, 1835 on his Turkey Hill farm.
Joseph Woods served in the Revolutionary War as a private in Capt. Benj. Briggs Company, 7th Va. Regt.; Muster Roll dated Fort Pitt, Nov. 18,1781 for the year 1780 and Jan. to Oct., 1781.; Term of enlistment, War, on command at Wheeling. His name was last borne on Muster Roll for June 1783, dated at Fort Pitt, July 3, 1783, with remarks: On furlough Their children were (1) John, (2) James [Vance’s note: I am descended from him], (3) Margaret (Peggy), (4) Patrick, (5) Joseph L., (6) William P, (7) David L. , (8) Issac, (9) Jane, (10) Elizabeth, (11) Samuel Hamilton.
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This says they moved to the Holston River in Blount County, Tn in 1790 –that is before the end of ths Indian wars in 1794 — The Chickamauga Cherokee, Shawnee, Creek and others were raiding farms in this area until 1794. When James Woods married Nancy Dickson in 1795, they were living at that place. So the Dickson’s are probably also in Blount County, Tn., at this time. At the same time Cherokee who were not Chickamauga sometimes freely travelled through this region as well.
I’m off Friday and maybe I’ll have time then to look up Blount County & some more things, maybe the Blackfoot Church, too — I got frustrated trying to find that yesterday. 🙁
vance
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14582I’ve been searching genealogy message boards for Dickson/Dixon/Dixson” and found the following tantalyzing convesation —
What are some of the given names of the females? I have Dixson/Dixon relatives that came from Person Co., with Native American Heritage. I cannot follow the females because of marriages. Maybe one of them married a Young?
Dixon is a name that is tied my Young family tree, however, i have not done much research on that name. These Dixion’s (as with my Youngs) appear to be connected to the Soiuan tribes, more specifically the Waccamaw indians that inhabited Cape Fear and Waccmaw River Basin areas in Bladen and Columbus Co, North Carolina.
There is some speculation that many of the Native americans of Person’s county, whom were also of Soiuan ancestry may have migrated “south” and joined the Waccamaw and other Suioan tribes, during much of the Colonial period. But much of this is speculation.
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Again, I can’t tie my Dickson’s to those they are referring to in Person County, NC., but it does interest me . . . I need to find a couple of generations that are missing to find out more.
I am still frustrated. I thought I had a census I could refer to once I saw them in Blount County, Tn in the 1790s. I went to look for an 1800 census and saw that the 1800 census for Blount County, Tn, has been lost. I wonder if there are tax records, or anything . . .?
In researcing Blount County, my ancestors were there in 1790 and the last Cherokee war ended in 1794. What 45 year old would move his family that (included 10 children) to a war zone? Blount County that by its present borders was partly included in the Cherokee Nation and partly not in those days. People were still being scalped in those regions until peace in 1794. I could see a young man in his 20s moving there. I would also think it would be safer for a mixed-blood family to live there than for a White family.
I am thinking that the term Blackfoot-Cherokee might be referring to people such as these, who lived within 5 or 10 miles of the Cherokee Nation border, who were part Indian, but just not necessarily Cherokee. That term is not part of any my known family traditions, but I could see how some families might preserve such a tradition.
I can not prove my Woods/Dickson/Hamilton’s were even Indian, and want to make that clear. They might have been. I need to find a way to tie my Blount County, Tn, Dickson’s to those referred to above who were living in Person County, NC a couple of generations earlier. I am just searching this line to see if we can find anything more about them.
vance
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14583Vance,
Did you already have this? If not, I guess all info can be a lead…
Joseph Woods was born 22 Aug 1745 in Charlottesville, Albemarle County, Virginia. He died 16 Jan 1835 and is buried in the White Church Cemetery near Princeton, Indiana. Stone. He was married to Mary Hamilton 1747-1829. Children: John born 1769 married Polly Dickson; James born 1770 married Nancy Dickson; Margaret born 1772 married Samuel Hogue, Sr.; Patrick born 1775 married Jane Hannah; Joseph L. born1776 married Elizabeth Hannah; William P. born 1778; David born 1780 married Esther Witherspoon; Isaac born 1783 married Elizabeth Witherspoon; Jane born 1785 married Samuel Hogue Jr.; Elizabeth born 1787 married William Embree; Samuel H. born 1791 married Ann McMillan. Source Page 389, Roster of Soldiers and Patriots of the American Revolution Buried in Indiana, 1938. saj
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14584Thanks Sue.
Yeah I did have most of that information. However I didn’t have the source or origin of the material.
Thanks for providing it. 🙂
Vance
ps — I have been saying we are descended from James Woods and Nancy Dickson and in searching today I found someone who said we are from John Woods and Polly Dickson. Two brothers married 2 sisters and I might have been searching the wrong ones. hmmm . . . can’t win ’em all . . . they still migrated together to all the locations I’ve been looking at, so little has changed.
vance
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14585Vance,
Did you have this too? With the picture of the stone?
http://www.rootsquest.com/~jmurphy/gibson/gibcem/pat_marsh_creek.htm
Sue J
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14593Sue, I didn’t know about that photo of the tombstone. Thank you very much! 🙂 It’s priceless! Joseph was my great great great great grandpa. I had to think about that, counting generations, before saying it. That is priceless. Joseph Wood married Mary Hamilton. They were married in Abemarle County, Va 1768 and appear to have been in Louisa County before that.
Emma sent me some information about the Hamilton’s and Wood’s (thanks, Emma) showing a possible Monacan connection. I can’t connect those to mine as I don’t know anything about the Monacan Hamilton’s — yet. If I can “connect the dots” well that’d be great. Mine were in Chancellorsville and Stanton, and lookin at a map, that appears about 40 and 30/35 miles from Amherst, resp. We could be related.
http://www.monacan-cherokee.com mentions some Monacan Hamilton’s and some of these people seem to have been in Louisa County, too. The Hamilton’s on that website are still in Amherst County, Va I think.
http://www.monacan-cherokee.com/Grave1.html
http://www.monacan-cherokee.com/cemetery1.html
The above link shows some Hamilton’s buried in a Monacan cemetery, in Amherst County, Va. Interestingly, it also shows Anderson’s and Griffith’s buried in that cemetery. In Arkansas, an “Anderson Griffith” married one of my Waylands. I do not descend from this man, but i am related to his children through his Wayland wife. I’d like to find out more about this “Anderson Griffith” in Arkansas now. Also the “Solomon Richey” who was a “FPC” in Amherst county in that 1811 court record is of more interest to me. My Richey’s, Wood’s, and Hamilton’s all ended up in Gibson County, Indiana whereas my Waylands never went up there — they married the Richey (descended from Hamilton and Woods) in Powhatan, Arkansas. Perhaps the Richey’s that went to Indiana knew the Woods/Hamilton’s from their families in Virginia.
I’m Getting ahead of myself. I need to tie MY Woods/Hamilton’s in Charlottesville/Staunton, Va (earlier in Louisa Co. I believe) to those in that Monacan Cemetery in Amherst Co., Va., who may also have been in Louisa County.
If we can tie a S Indiana community to these Monacan in Amherst County with emperical, provable genealogical evidence, and also a possible community in Lawrence County, Arkansas (there are 2 towns, Pocahantas and Powhatan, not far from each other) well it might improve credibility for others in the Gibson/Pike County area of South Indiana.
Sure wish/hope I had/have time to go to Amherst County when I go to Virginia in June. Linda, will any of these Monocan’s from Amherst County be at that June meeting? I’d love to run into them. 🙂 I might not get another chance to travel back east . . . I have thought for a while 2 Cherokee on Swetland Rolls listed as “Brown’s” might be from this Wayland/Griffith union, through mine and another Brown family that we “might be” related to. These Brown’s are interesting too.
Vance
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14605Vance,
Glad to help.
I haven’t found much on Mary Hamilton as to who her parents were.
I did find a family of brothers, george and John and James Dixon..John married Mary Wilson, James marr. a __Helm and George married rachel Beard.
Son of George, Adam Dixon born 3-10-1785 in Bedford co Va marries Hannah Logan Erwin.
They have a daughter Mary Hamilton Dixon born 1812 in Maury co Tn.
Another daughter is Nancy Mariah and another daughter marries Abner H Hanna and they name a daughter Mary Hamilton Hanna. I just wonder where the name of Mary Hamilton Dixon born 1812 is coming from? Interesting…I’ll keep looking. Sue J
Oh, on that Monocan cemetery list are Anderson’s, one of my brick walls.
March 1, 2005 at 6:15 pm #14612Vance,
Hey, been out of town. Anyway, I have Clark, Willis, DeMoss (Moss) and have found some hint that my Butts were Monacan.
Techteach
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