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August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16311
Thats great. Its amazing how varied and wonderful the trail can be.
Just out of the love of wonder, and curiosity, maybe someday I’ll get that done too. Its fascinating to read the results on this board from members who have had it done. Its not just interesting, its personal.
I honestly believe, that if we all had tests done…no matter how expensive and complicated they might be, but just for the joy of it…we’d find that we were all related somehow, within the past 300 years.
Regards,
your possible 10th cousin
Lynne
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16391The summary came back Wednesday
from genetree.com. relative to the MtDNA
test which tracks the female line.
(e-mail) They will send a hard copy later.
Basically,my sequence is a version of
the L3e haplogroup.(African)
I’m still waiting for results from the
“Y” chromosome test (paternal line) and
the “continental origins” test.I’ll summarize them when they come in.
Roca:)
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16397Congratulations Roca! cool. If I have it right, that means your mother’s mother’s mother’s mother’s mother was African. Is that what you were told?
I only had the Y chromosome test done and the projected date I’ll receive results is October first. I expect it to say “Brittish” (surname Hawkins?? — sounds about as English as it gets . . . ๐ ) — but some results for other Hawkinses have come back “Middle East” — how, I don’t know . . .
What do you mean by “continental origins” test? I’d heard of the male test (Y chromosone) and the female test (mtcDNA test) .
I have been told that one will trace the origins of the continual male line and the other the continual female line, and that there was nothing that you could do for other lines except find relatives that can trace their ancestors to those lines through the straight male or straight female line. They are possibly still coming out with new tests . . .
vance
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16399Dear Vance,
I’m not surprised that my maternal line from the MtDNA testing tracks to Africa.
I have been living in VA for the last 2 1/2 years and see many of my relatives from my mother’s side.
Mom’s brothers and sisters (full) are a rather diverse looking bunch,racially speaking.I’d always assumed we have West African ancestry and we put “black” on the government papers.
I’m positive that however the MtDNA
turned out,we could live with it.
The test you asked about from Genetree is called the Autosomal AncestryByDNA DNA Test.According to their brochure,this excludes the Y and X
chromosomes and MtDNA.This test estimates one’s % of various continental
origins such as African,European,Native
American,or East Asian.
I have no preconceived notions regarding the other 2 results that I’m
waiting on.However things go,there’s a
certain power in the knowing.
Roca ๐
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16403howdy Roca —
I know what you mean. I have some cousins with brown skin and eyes and others who are blue eyed and blonde.
Do they have a website? Had I known about that I might have used them instead of the people I used.
Maybe I just didn’t read the website I used all the way through, and maybe they do that test also.
I’ll have to wait until I get the money for it, anyhow — one step at a time.
thanks! ๐
vance
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16404Check out my posting for the National Geographic DNA testing. It is only 100.00 for the male and/or female test.
Techteach
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16668I wrote the people who are testing my DNA as I was confused. They’d told me there were only 2 types of tests possible — Y Chromosome and mtDNA, the former for male decendancy and the latter for female. I am 100 pecent sure they’d told me that is all the tests that were possible.
So when people here started saying you cold test for genetic ancestry to determine racially mixed ancestors I was skeptical yet curious and wanted to know more. So I wrote them and told them what I was hearing from others. Here is what I was told —
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Hello,
This type of test does exist. In fact, we used to offer it here until we became uncomfortable with the percent of error inherent to the test. The test looks at the DNA which recombines (not the Y-DNA or the mtDNA), which means it looks at DNA which is randomly mixed from generation to generation. It divides ancestry into four categories: Native American, Indo-European, East Asian, and Sub-Saharan African. It can break down a personรขโฌโขs ethnic make-up into percentages (plus or minus some error) but it cannot tell you who any of the ancestry comes from in your family tree.
E-mail any time,
Eileen Krause
Anthrogenealogy Response Center
Family Tree DNA
713-868-1438
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I’d like to tell them to let me worry about the percentage of error inherent in the test — their responsibility is to inform me of that percentage and do the test. It is my responsibility to live with that percentage of error . . .
Well I am still happy that I am receiving my Y chromosome male Hawkins test as I can not trace that line to any time before 1837 with Joshua Allen Hawkins when we hit a brick wall. I am hoping this test will bust through that wall.
But still, I wish I’d gone to a company who would at least perform the ethnic make up test that she speaks of, and that yall have spoken of. They are keeping my DNA on file and I can later ask them to perform another test — however — The company I used — Family Tree DNA — apparently isn’t even willing to peform those tests, and they didn’t tell me about this other test until I recently asked . . . ๐
So to get that other test done eventually I’ll have to start from scratch with another company, and that means it’ll be more expensive . . . and take more time.
If anyone wants to be tested, make sure they are willing to perform that test before you use them. You will save money in the long run.
vance
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16701Hi All,
Sorry I haven’t had time to post for so long, some of you know that my Dad was diagnosed with lung cancer the week before Xmas, end of Jan, removed lower left lobe of his lung, then removed 12″ of his colon a few months later, in the meantime, my Mom has had pnuemonia 3 times (and tons of tests) so my time…well, there just isn’t enough! We have 2 going to college and living at home so getting computer time for me is last on the list, however, we added a laptop for one and are getting another this week for the other, so I am hopeful that this one will be open for me now by the end of the week. Am busy trying to catch up on all that’s been going on here for the past months. BTW…my Dad is a tough old bird….he’s doing great..who’d of thought? I hope I inherited that! He’s fishing, gardening, painting the house, and causing all the trouble he can! Mom’s on the mend and getting ready for knee replacement. Sorry, this is so long…anyway when Dad got sick, as Cindy has mentioned, we had him DNA tested since he is the last in a direct unbroken line of Sinkey men…..Family DNA did the testing, I think that’s the same one you used Vance. After reading the above post, I’m alittle upset….they told me that they would keep Dad’s DNA there in case we wanted to do further tests….I had planned to have the percentage one done since we know Dad’s is English now. The native has to be in the female line. Where do you get the percentage test done….we can’t do the female test because we don’t have an unbroken line of female descent. Am I understanding the process correctly? I’d be very willing to do the test but I’m too much of a “Heinz 57” to do a direct lineage test.
Deb
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16706Genetree DNA testing center is doing mine. Here is their address and phone number if you want to get their information.
GeneTree
DNA testing Center
2495 South West Temple
Salt Lake City,UT. 84115
Toll Free: (888) 404-gene
Direct: (801)462-1446
fax: (801)4621403
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16805Results came in and it has taken me a while to figure it out, and make some sense of it.
R1b halpotype — most common in Europe. Mine suggest Unknown, England, Scotland, Ireland, in that order. That’s exactly what I expected. No surprises.
Found relations, but no recent relations. Five families tested and obtained EXACT results, showing they were related within a few generation. Mine was one deviation off of theirs, meaning we were related, but most likely further back in time. It is about a 50/50 shot that we have a comon ancestor with them in the last 400/500 years. Interesting there were 2 markers that were NOT Hawkins where we matched 12 in 12 markers, a Furleigh and a Smith.
Families that we “nearly” matched (11 of 12 markers matched) went back to a Joshua Hawkins (1725-1801) and a Sarah Cook, 2 to 2 separate Edward Hawkinses (no dates listed — I rmember dad had an Uncle Eddie), one to a William Edward Hawkins, b. 1825 Virginia, one to William A. Hawkins b. 1578
I’m curious about Joshua Hawkins and Sarah Cook. seems like I looked at them once real hard thinking we might be related to them.
Vance
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16806Vance,
Did you have any one, two, or three step mutations?
Sherry
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16807howdy Sherry —
Just the one step mutation. I read what it said about that — I think it was about a 50/50 chance to have had a common ancestor in the last 400-500 years
Hmmm . . . I just realized something else. One person we are related to was William Edward Hawkins, b. 1825.
One of Joshua’s children was William Edward Hawkins b. @ 1870 Tx. Dad called him Uncle Eddie, and I’ll always remember him because dad said he died while visiting them during the Dust Bowl in the 1930s, maybe pneumonia I don’t know, and they buried him in the cow pasture behind their house in an unmarked grave somewhere. I don’t know who owns that land now (I know where it is, tho) — I’d like to see him get a proper grave but I don’t know where exactly he’s buried on that land.
Now if William Edward Hawkins is closely related to Joshua Hawkins who married Sarah Cook — we might be onto something . . . ๐
Vance
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16809Vance, I’m glad you got your results in. I am looking forward to getting mine in about four weeks.
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16810Vance,
When we tested Deb’s father, we had a Cooke exact match too. I have seen that name several times since then, but I probably just did not notice it before.
Can you explain what they said about a single mutation? We had a single mutation marked China. What do you understand that to mean?
Techteach
August 3, 2005 at 8:00 pm #16818somewhere down the line your ancestors migrated from china. I (my father actually) showed China, Japan, Greenland, Polynesia, Micronesia, Native Siberia, etc. Can’t list them all. I had one, two ,three and four step mutations.
Sherry
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