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It’s been a long time since I’ve posted– crazy life– but I found a tidbit that might interest Vance:
Brenda
“The Scotch-Irish settlers were preceded by some French Canadian fur traders, who however can hardly be considered as legitimate settlers. These traders, Bazaillon, LeTort, Chartier, Marianda, Jessup, and others, located along the river between Conoy creek and Marietta, with the exception of Chartier who went into Conestoga Manor, and later into Cumberland county. They all had large tracts surveyed in the Donegals, but only for speculation; and it is said that “‘there are very few instances where they actually took out patents for their land.”
[Peter Wayland]
“In 1750 Nicholas McClelland, Andrew Berg, Thomas Cotters, Matthew Blazer, Henry Rup, Martin Heisey, Widow Hones, Jacob Ebersole and John Allison were settled along the west side of Coney creek, near Nissley’s mill, in western Donegal. David Craig in 1751 took up several hundred acres along Conoy creek, a little north of Conoy township. His son Robert was a Revolutionary officer. Samuel Woods settled near Conewago in 176o. Peter Wayland owned the Petersburg tract, near Conoy creek[****]; he sold it in 1773 to Jacob Witmer. Benjamin Whisler, John Neesly, Peter Rutt, Jacob Boyers and David Coble owned adjoining farms. James Jamison settled on land one and a half miles west from Elizabethtown before the Revolution. He was quartermaster in Col. Lowrey’s battalion, and in later years kept a dry-goods store in Elizabethtown. He died in 1783, his unmarried daughter Nancy inheriting the farm on Conewago creek; this she sold in 1784 to Bates Grubb. Jacob Cook settled on the Paxtang and Conestoga road in the fifties, his land being between that of Thomas Harris at Conewago and the Bear Tavern kept by Barnabas Hughes. He was a major during the Revolution. William Cochran bought a part of Moses White’s land in Mount joy township, in 1766. Later, the land passed to the Scanlons. The Hiestand family was resident in Mount Joy township very early; Jacob Hiestand probably settled in the thirties or earlier. He sold i So acres of his tract in 1741 to Jacob Rief; the latter sold to Martin Kreider in 1761. The mill which stood on the outskirts of Mount joy was operated by the Hiestand family probably before the Revolution. The Nissley family is another closely identified with early milling in Mount joy township. Jacob Nissley built a grist mill at the head of Spring creek in about 1761. The Moorheads came into Mount joy township probably in the fifties. Thomas Moorhead received patent for land about a mile north of Mount joy in 1761. He died two years later, the property going to his sons, James and Robert. James was an officer in two wars, French and Indian, and the Revolution. He removed to Donegal, and for many years was one of the ruling elders of that church. In 1787 he purchased the glebe-land of the church. Finally, the Moorheads moved out of Lancaster county.”
http://www.horseshoe.cc/pennadutch/people/scotirish/scotrish.htm
Hey, Brenda, it’s so good to hear from you. Hope you’re doing well. At the campout this year we were talking about maybe doing a gathering some year in the Big Sandy area. Do you know of any great campgrounds?
A lot of people like Chief Logan State Park in Logan, WV…. I’ve been wanting to check out Jenny Wiley State Park in KY… a few years ago we got a cabin at Cabwaylingo…very remote and low key, which is what we like. Very peaceful & basic.
Brenda:
Thanks for the posting. I have not read it all, but it is interesting to me. Deb, my cousin who helps me look into the Sinkey/Sankeys, has a McClellend as her Blackfoot ancestor. She marries a Ralston like my Blackfoot ancestor named McClane (I think McLane and McClelland were variations of the same name.). They move to the same location as my Sinkey/Sankeys who moved to Ohio and Iowa from PA, in this area, near York. Another Sankey there was Presbyterian minister of Donegal parish. Later, he moves with many members of his parish to Prince Edward County, VA. His father-in-law, John Thomson, was also minister there, minister in WVA where some of my folks came from, Prince Edward County, and in Mecklenberg county, NC. I am not sure how these folks are connected, but I think they were.
I will have to carefully read your URL.
Techteach
http://www.gbl.indiana.edu/archives/miamis10/M52_47a.html
“The Indian traders used to buy the transported Irish and other convicts, as servants, to be employed in carrying up their goods among the Indians. Many of these ran away from their masters and joined the Indians. The ill-behavior of these people always hurt the character of the English among the Indians.”- Hist. West. Pa., Appendix, p. 90.’
I am finding that a number of individuals on the early western PA & MD frontier were involved in trading and had frequent contact with the native population. I suspect that our “metis” folks, similar to the situation in Canada, came from the early trading relationships on this early frontier.
I’ll keep a look out on your names when I read!
Thank you Brenda.
I haven’t logged on in about a week.
Is this in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania? It mentions a “James Logan”. Someone said James Logan was of the family of Chief Logan. His family was killed and caused him to go on the warpath. I wonder if this is the same James Logan? One of the Chickasaw traders was the famous James Logan Colbert. His grandfather was also said to be named James Logan, but I don’t think that has been proven.
My ancestor Nevil Wayland is in South Carolina at least from 1778 through 1794 or so, near Tyron or Tryon on the NC/SC border for 2 or 3 years and in 1797 was in lower Russell County, SC. Nevil was in the South Carolina militias during the Revolutionary War as a “wagoner” working under the quartermaster.
I don’t know if there is a connection or not, but they may have been related.
Thank you very much. 🙂
vance
Vance,
Chief Logan was named by his father Shikellemy, after the PA statesman named James Logan, a colleague of William Penn. It gets confusing following who was who. Combined with it, I read somewhere that there were two Logans, sons of Shikellemy, James and John. If I recall correctly, John was the one whose family was massacred, ashamedly by one of my grandfather’s ancestors.
Techteach
Thanks Cindy —
I didn’t know that.
I just recall reading “something” and being told “smething” and recalled the name James Logan on both occasions. There was also an Indian trader in Virginia named “James Logan” who I believe lived near Occoneeche Island. There was also another “Captain Logan” i blieve who became a famous Indian fighter in the 1780s and 1790s.
I wonder if any of these men were related?
vance
Originally posted by vance hawkins
Thanks Cindy —
I didn’t know that.
I just recall reading “something” and being told “smething” and recalled the name James Logan on both occasions. There was also an Indian trader in Virginia named “James Logan” who I believe lived near Occoneeche Island. There was also another “Captain Logan” I believe who became a famous Indian fighter in Tennessee in the 1780s and 1790s.
I wonder if any of these men were related?
vance
I don’t know if they are related, Vance. Most of my reading has centered on PA, WVA, and MD where I can trace my folks to.
Cindy
Brenda is to be highly commended for providing this important material on Conoy Creek landowners in the middle 1700s at Lancaster County, Pa. Conoy Creek derived its name from the Conoy Indians (formerly of MD and DE) who had a village on its banks near the junction with the Susquehanna River. The village, known as “Conoy Townâ€, was well known in this area as a major trading center on the South West Pa. frontier. It was a refugee village where the Conoy indians were the dominant element, but Seneca, Shawnee, Nanticoke and Tutelo/Totra were also represented. It was here that the failed 1742 Indian uprising, involving PA, MD, and DE native people, was planned:
http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/m…/am42–654.html
Techteach,
If Deb can link her MC CLELLAND ancestor to this Nicholas McClelland that would go along way in explaining the BFI connection, given that the Tutelo were possibly still present in this area in 1750. Also, there was an Allen MC CLEAN who lived on Conoy Creek around 1770. (Franklin Ellis, History of Lancaster County Pennsylvania. Everts & Peck, Phil. 1883)
The Conoy Indians living at Conoy town left this area in 1744 and moved up river and set up camp on “Big Island†at the junction of the Susquehanna and the Juniata rivers in what is today Dauphin County. The records of the European colonists, that I have seen, don’t indicate what happened to the other tribes who lived at Conoy Town in Lancaster county after 1744.
Bess Veney
Bess,
Thanks. I will let her know, although I have not heard from her in a bit. I think she is busy and is kind of respecting the fact that I just moved to what I think is your area. I am now in the Chicagoland; we moved weekend before last.
I have come to think that McLean, McClelland, and a name that Bill found associated with my Hustons, McCollam, were forms of the same name. I probably said this already – Deb’s Blackfoot came from her McClelland while mine came from my McClean. Both families end up in the same location (and cemetery) in Iowa, in an area settled by Andrew Huston’s son and daughter and I have come to think that they were probably related in more than marriage. Andrew came from PA near the Sinkeys who were in Dauphin and Juniata counties and ended up in Licking county, OH with the Greens. McLean and McClellend were from near Pittsburgh. They married Ralston brothers and came west to where Andrew’s children had moved, Jackson County, IA. I believe that there had to be a relationship for them to end up in the same location in IA from OH and western PA. I am aware that some Tutelo went west and were found in Beaver County where my McLean was born.
Thanks for your info. I am going to reread it to digest it a bit more.
Techteach
Well, something led me to this web site : http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12114a.htm Would you like to know where the first William Green was born? Portobaco, MD in 1698. He marries a Dinah Darke Butt who was from Queen Anne’s Parish. The family then follows the route that is in keeping with this article and another that said they went up the Potomac. They end up in Shepherdstown, where there were Tuscaroras and, I believe, Monacans.
If the Conoys fled to the Iroquois, as records show, and the Greens are involved somehow with this tribe, it would explain why William Green’s son, Regnal Sr. refuses to answer the muster for Frederick County, MD during the French and Indian War.
Techteach
Cindy
I am having some difficulty understanding the movements of the Greens up the Potomac River and the possible Conoy connection in Pennsylvania. Could you give me some more details on William Green Sr. if you have them? That would help.
When did William Sr. arrive in Sheperdstown?
Where was his property located around Sheperdstown?
Did any of his siblings or descendents move northward on the Monocacy Rd to Lancaster County, Pa? http://www.cob-net.org/docs/brethrenlife_migrations.htm
I have not done much research in this area of the state on Native American occupancy. You are correct, the Tuscaroras were here, and today, the town of Martinsburg is the site of their old village in the early 1700s. Martinsburg is about 10 miles due west of Sheperdstown, which sits on the Potomac River. In addition, Delaware, Catawba, Shawnee were in the area of Sheperdstown when the first Europeans came to this area. I don’t know if “Catawba†refers also to “Monacan†in this case. In any case, some Eastern Siouan people were most likely here when your William Green Sr. arrived. What greatly complicates the picture is that the old “warriors pathâ€, going North from the upper Shenandoah Valley, passed through this area. This means that additional tribes from the South and North moved in and out of the area over a long period of time. They left some members who did not move on. One thing is sure, the well known Indian trading families of Vanmeter, Hite, Swearingen, etc, were all bunched up in this area from Martinsburg to Sheperdstown, making this point a major market of the fur trade in the 1800 century.
Bess
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