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Peter Wayland was mentioned in the beginning of this thread as selling land in 1773 of the “Petersburg tract” near Conoy Creek if I recall it right — I searched all through the Germanna databases that are online — there is no “Peter Wayland” ever mentioned — not one. Odd, since “Peter” is such a common given name, and that data base spans more than 2 and a half centuries. Those people used so many other Biblical given names, some very odd names by todays standards, but no one was ever named for the Apostle Peter.
Also odd since the Germanna Colony was just 5 or 6 counties south west of the area I believe to have been the region of Conoy Creek or Town, if that was in Lancaster County, Pa. If my geography is off, please somebody help me. Perhaps there were Waylands very near the Germanna Colony who were not associated with that colony, or some of them left the colony and also quit associating with that colony and the Waylands there altogether.
I can say the same about my Nevil Wayland — there is no record of him at all from the Germanna colony altho he lived fairly close to it ( 3 or 4 counties southwest of it) in his later years. Peter would have been the right age to have been Nevil’s father, considering he owned land in 1773 and sold it. Nevil would have been about 18 or 19 years old at that time, probably too young to afford any land of his own. In 1778 Nevil joined the South Carolina Militia working for the quartermaster. You have given me a new place to look for his birth place and family — maybe Pa or Md — thanks.
vance
Vance,
I have no way of knowing if this is the SAME Peter, but you can check out the following…. Do any other names on this list sound familiar??
“1750 Voyage of the Patience
The Garst Family association has graciously provided a copy of the reference: Vol. 3, page 427, Penna. German Pioneers, Which has been extracted and reordered here in alphabetical order.
At the Courthouse at Philadelphia, Saturday, 11th
August 1750.
Present: Thomas Lawrence, Esq., Mayor.
The Foreigners whose Names are underwritten, imported in the
ship Patience, Capt. Hugh Steel, from Rotterdam, but last from
Cowes in England, did this day take and subscribe the usual
Qualifications. 124 By List. 266 Frieghts.”
Long list…. includes “Wieland, Peter”
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scismfam/peffbook/addendum.htm
Brenda
Thanks Brenda —
I looked quickly through that. Peter Wieland came from very near the same location where Thomas Wieland (the Germanna settler) came from.
Unfortunately that list just gives head of households — wish it had given wifes or children also.
I am gonna keep a lookout for Peter. 🙂
vance
ps — earliest we trace our Nevil Wayland is b @ 1754 place unknown.
Brenda you have a Cline listed as an ancestor that married into your Mounz/Mounds family. Do have any information on the Cline family?
Margaret “Peggy” Cine married David Mountz/Mounts April 5, 1809 -marriage bond Montgomery County, VA. The bond was signed in old German script by her father, Peter Cline, Sr., David Mountz, and James Addair as surety for David who was purportedly described as “orphan of Samuel Mountz.” [A wonderful man did a court house look-up for me in the court order books on this Samuel info., but when I wrote for a copy of the page the clerk could not find this particular court order book! I do have a copy of the marriage bond, however.] Addair ran a ferry across the New River near Radford…..
Peter Cline, Sr. lived in the western most wilderness of Montgomery County, or as tradition has it, he may have already had a hunting cabin near the Roughs of the Tug River. In any event, he was one of the earlier settlers in the area that became Logan County, VA & Pike Co., KY. Peter’s Creek in KY is named for him and is roughly across the river from Matewan, WV. Probably all the Tug Valley Clines descend from this Peter Cline/Klein, Sr. His descendants figured prominently in the Hatfield & McCoy feud– both sides.
Peter is my first known Cline ancestor. His possible relationship to a Nicholas Cline who many think is his father is still a matter of conjecture. Peter enlisted in the Revolutionary War effort from Reading, Berks County, PA so we know he was in PA at that time. During the war, Peter served in the 12th Pennsylvania Regiment.
A lot of Palatine Germans had been immigrating into the colonies for some time, so he was probably part of that flow from Europe, being born here or a small child when he came. After the war, Peter is lost in the records for a bit and then shows up in Montgomery Co. records in 1786….Researchers think there is some evidence that between 1777 and 1786 he was in NC or the Shenandoah Valley. After the Montgomery Co. years, records pertaining to Peter can also be found in early Floyd Co., KY [Pike], as well as Logan County, VA.
Some folks have him married to an Elizabeth Rife. His wife’s name was Elizabeth, but the records for Rife don’t fit, so some researchers list his wife as Elizabeth Unknown at this time. …..I don’t know whether or not he is related in any way to the early Wythe County, VA Clines…..
His children Are:
1. Michael, b. abt. 1778, d. 1860 McDowell Co. VA., married a “Peggy” first, then had a common law relationship with Nancy Elswick Clevenger
2. John b. abt. 1780, mar. Mary Lucas 1798 in Montgomery Co., VA.
3. Sarah Cline, b. abt. 1785 died 1865 in Bland Co. VA, married Abraham Honaker.
4. Jacob “Rich Jake” Cline, b. abt. 1790, d. abt. 1858 in Logan Co., VA., mar. first “Unknown”, mar. second Nancy Fuller.
5. William “Alum Billy” Cline b. abt. 1792, d. abt. 1868 Logan Co., VA, mar. Hannah Clevinger.
6. Margaret “Peggy” Cline, b. abt. 1793, d. aft. 1880 Logan Co., VA, married David Mounts/Mountz.
7. Missing daughter b. abt. 1797….
8. Peter Heck Cline, b. abt. 1800, d.aft. 1892 on Gilbert Creek, Logan/Mingo Co., WV, mar. Mary “Polly” Smith.
A lot of my info. is from THE CLINES AND ALLIED FAMILIES OF THE TUG RIVER REGION OF KENTUCKY AND WEST VIRGINIA by Cecil L. Cline. If this is your Clines, I can do a look-up for you. Brenda Collins Dillon also has some Cline info., I think, from the Tug region.
Brenda
My dad’s mother was Lorena Pearl Rothgeb.
Her mother was Clara Lamonia Tice.
Clara’s father was Solomon William Tice b. 13 Sept. 1848 in Ohio or Iowa.
Solomon’s parents are George M. Tice b. 1810 Ohio married 1830 Ohio to Cynthia Ann Miller b. 1812 Ohio and died 12 Dec. 1876 Elk Co. KS.
George’s parents are:
John Tice b. 1780 New York, NY d. about 1860
He married: 21 Nov. 1808 OH
Catherine Cline b. 1788 Ft. Henry Wheeling, WV Ohio County and died 7 Feb. 1819
I can trace my Tices back to Willishuesen Switzerland Zurich Canton. I know nothing about the Clines accept that I seem to remember seeing something on the net about a book about the Clines. I never did check it out.
Now that I see it typed out I am wondering if the Ohio places of birth for the Tices may have actually been Ohio county WV. It has been rumored that there may have been Indian blood on my grandma’s side and that that connection has something to do with where they lived in Shawnee Township, KS.
Also Cynthia Ann Miller’s side could be a possible lead.
Cynthia Ann Miller’s parents were George Miller and Hannah Stackhouse.
I have a document concerning a possible adoption of a Cherokee child with the same name as my Great Grandmother Ruth Armilda Johnson from my dad’s side. Which ties back into the Miller and Morris families.
I haven’t done nearly enough research on my dad’s mother’s side of the family. Most of the information I have on them comes from the Tice family research. I came by the adoption document through research on the Johnson side.
Collins and Brenda:
Just pulled up the Green genealogy that I have when I saw the locations of your posting, Collins. Similar to mine. I see one Cline who marries an Edwards in Iowa in 1903 in Monmouth. This is right in the area where my folks settled.
Techteach
I need to make a correction on the Tice family. It isn’t the Tices that go back to Switzerland it is the Rothgebs.
Techteach I seem to recall something about the Green family in my family lines. I’ll have to look it up but I think there was some Green families that married into my Collins families some where.
I would be interested in any Cline information. I know nothing about them.
I have done very little research on Peter Cline in Pennsylvania….When he was 76 years old he made a pension application in Montgomery County, VA [is memory an issue?] while visiting daughter Sarah Cline Honaker. [He was a resident of Pike Co, KY at the time.] He states that he was living in “”Reddingtown, Barracks County” [German accent for Reading, Berks County?????] Pennsylvania at the time he enlisted. Other names in this statement:
Enlisted with Captain Henry Miller 1774 [militia???]
served in the 12th Regiment of the Pennsylvania Line under:
Capt. Henry Miller.
Lt. Henderson*
Major Patterson*
Lt. Col. POTTER
Col. Cook*
Ensign Taylor
Peter left the service in September 1777.
Fought in the following battles:
Long Island, White Plains, Trenton, and Germantown
Was at Valley Forge.
* Cecil Cline was able to verify that these did indeed serve with the 12th…..
The 12th Pennsylvania was formed, I think, from militia units already in the Upper Susquehanna.
So, those are the leads to follow in locating this Peter Cline.
Brenda
“The 1752 Petition
When 1752 rolled around, the men of northern Lancaster, Chester and Philadelphia counties were better prepared. Their petition was presented and read to the Assembly, Feb 4, 1752
It stated:
That they were inhabitants of Readingtown, upon the Schuylkill….”
Reading WAS known as Readingtown…. Looks like it was CONRAD WEISER’S special project.
http://www.berkshistory.org/articles/berks1752.html
http://www.berkshistoryorg/histsoc.html
A good article on the Palentine immigration….
http://www.berkshistory.org/articles/palentine-1960.html
You might try the Break’s Park near Pikeville Kentucky, Also Jenny Wiley park is realy nice. Both places have cabins you can rent and nice camping grounds.I’ll post the toll free numbers in the next day or two for you.
Cathy Rowland
Lots of good information here. Im sad to see many links no longer work. Does anyone know of updated ones that do?
Current link for source of Brenda’s quote in first post:
History of Lancaster Pennsylvania: With Biographical Sketches of Many of Its Pioneers and Prominent Men – from page 787, published 1883 Philadelphia, by Franklin Ellis and Samuel Evans.
These early PA county histories like Lancaster and Westmoreland definitely fill in part of the picture for my ancestors.
Current link for source of Brenda’s quote in fifth post:
Journal of Captain William Trent from Logstown to Pickawillany, A.D. 1752 : now published for the first time from a copy in the archives of the Western Reserve Historical Society, Cleveland, Ohio, together with letters of Governor Robert Dinwiddie ; an historical notice of the Miami confederacy of Indians ; a sketch of the English poet at Pickawillany, with a short biography of Captain Trent, and other papers never before printed – from Chapter 75 – Governor Dinwiddie to the Board of Trade, published 1871 Cincinnati by Robert Clarke & Co.
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