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I’m new to this group, I’m Carolyn C. Peevler of Veedersburg, IN.
I’m trying to research the Fugate side of my family as I was told they were of Indian blood.
My g grandfather was Richard Fugate b -1862 Vermilion Co IL d -1954 Vermilion Co IL, he married Melissa Donahue. Both are buried in Johnson cemetery in Danville, IL.
I remember my g grandfather well and have a 4 generation picture with him.
Thier daughter Carrie Ruth Fugate Ingalsbe born in Kimball MN was my grandmother.
My gg grandfather was Richard {I or L} Fugate born in northern KY 1820 death in Vermilion Co IL between 1870 and 1880 buried in Gordon cemetery Danville IL. He married Elizabeth Thrasher b- 1824 Pendleton Co KY d- July 6, 1903 Vermilion Co IL and is buried in Gordon Cemetery in Danville, IL.
My ggg grandfather was William {L or I} Fugate b – about 1770 in Scott Co VA d – Oct 1831 Pendleton Co KY.
Married Hannah Clements or Clemons 1810 in Bourbon Co KY. I have that Hannah was also born in VA about 1780.
I believe Hannah to be Indian but can’t find the information, has any one else researched this Hannah?
I have a 1810 Bourbon Co KY census listing William Fugate as a white male 26-44, one white female 16-25, and one Indian slave. If my information on Hannah is correct Hannah should have been 30 years old in 1810 or at least 29 at the time of census.
Above William’s name is a Mary Fugate 45 and up which could have possibly been William’s mother she is listed with 6 Indian slaves.
My gggg grandfather was Edward Fugate born about 1740 in VA d- 1806 Bourbon Co KY. Married Mary Hand in VA.
I cannot get any information on Edward Fugate as to who his parents were, has anyone any information on this Edward Fugate?
Also can’t research past Mary Hand’s grandfather Thomas Hand. Any information on this Thomas Hand?
I would “greatly” appreciate any information!
Thank you! 🙂
Carolyn C. Peevler
Welcome to Saponitown, Carolyn. I have Clements in Granville Co, NC. They came with a group of mixed bloods from Isle of Wight, Va around 1730s. While my direct line stayed in NC, some siblings migrated to Henderson and Hopkins Co, Ky in the very early 1800s. A group that includes Collins, Bunch, Gibson, Goins leave the same Flatt River area of NC in 1750s staying in Scott Co, Va through the late 1700s before moving on to Ky and WV.
I have every reason to believe my Clements were indian or at least mixed bloods. Yours are in the right place and time to be connected to mine and your Fugate is also in the right place and time to be connected to the Saponi group who migrated from Flatt River to Scott co, Va.
Hi Caroline! I am from Montgomery Co., In. Waynetown address. I don’t have any ties to your surnames but I found some info for you. Thomas Hand b 1705 d 2 apr. 1785 md Martha Mercy Whilding b1726 d 1775. His father George Hand b 1675 d 1758 his father Thomas Hand b 1646 d 1714 md Mary Talmadge b 1650 d? children George Hand 1700-1748, Thomas Hand 1705-1785, Jeremiah Hand 1706-1760, Daniel Hand 1710-1768, Nathan Hand 1710-1755, Eunice Hand 1712-1743, Sarah Hand 1718-1777. Thomas Hand(1646 Eng) parents–John Hand 1611-1659 Alice Stansborough 1617-? md Katherine Stubbs b 1645-? then md Martha Osborn 1646-1690 had several children (11) Johns fathr John Hand 1580-1661 mother Joan 1582-?children Mehitable Hand 1602-? and John Hand 1611-1659. When they came to America from England it looks like they settled in NY and NJ then eventually went to VA and KY etc. Hope this helps. I got some of this info from world tree and some from other websites. Good Luck!! 🙂 Greydove PS I am also looking for my Native roots, maybe we can help eachother. My ancesters some came from England and Ireland and on to PA to VA to WVA to OH to IN.
I have Elizabeth Clements and she married Owen Smith. Believe she is the daughter of Benjamin Clemets Jr. they lived in Southhampton Co on the Nottoway River and later in Brunswick Co. Benjamin Clements Jr grandfather on the maternal line is Richard Parker…His mother was Judith Parker Richard Parkers daughter… earlier notes have him as Saponi i believe.
Elizabeth Clemets is a new discovery for me as my great grandfather’s mother was not who we thought she was. Insted of Mallery Penix a later marrage to Martha Phillips Smith produced Sterling Phillip Hamblen and Martha Phillips Smith is a decendent of Elizabeth Clements and Owen Smith. I will be very interested if our woulds colide.
Janette
Thank you very much for your reply. This gives me some light. 🙂
I’m finding out quickly that it is really hard work to try and trace one’s Indian heritage.
I read last week on one of my search results quote; Depending on the state of the classification of Mulatto, could include people without any African blood at all. In some areas of VA, Maryland, and Deleware the vast majority of Mulattos were full blood Indians.
When an Indian was baptised in those states, he was required to drop his “heathen name” and foreswear his tribal indentity. In return, he legally was access to the legal system.
As further incentive to assimulate into white culture, early laws permitted Indian mulattos to marry white and their children could be listed at white. Unquote.
With all that information no wonder one can’t hardly trace Indian heritage!
I have also learned that the surname an Indian took could simply be the surname of a local family they had great respect for.
In a nut shell not really “blood” of that surname.
But after reading this it also shed some light on why one can’t find any branches on certain family members tree.
If anyone has any tricks for researching please let me know! I seem to have more brick walls in my family than I thought! :rolleyes:
Carolyn C. Peevler
Dreaminghawk wrote: Welcome to Saponitown, Carolyn. I have Clements in Granville Co, NC. They came with a group of mixed bloods from Isle of Wight, Va around 1730s. While my direct line stayed in NC, some siblings migrated to Henderson and Hopkins Co, Ky in the very early 1800s. A group that includes Collins, Bunch, Gibson, Goins leave the same Flatt River area of NC in 1750s staying in Scott Co, Va through the late 1700s before moving on to Ky and WV.
I have every reason to believe my Clements were indian or at least mixed bloods. Yours are in the right place and time to be connected to mine and your Fugate is also in the right place and time to be connected to the Saponi group who migrated from Flatt River to Scott co, Va.
Oh thank you! 🙂 This fills in one blank!
Goodness we are neighbors! We have a farm and Waynetown Ag mills my feed!
Carolyn C. Peevler
Greydove wrote: Hi Caroline! I am from Montgomery Co., In. Waynetown address. I don’t have any ties to your surnames but I found some info for you. Thomas Hand b 1705 d 2 apr. 1785 md Martha Mercy Whilding b1726 d 1775. His father George Hand b 1675 d 1758 his father Thomas Hand b 1646 d 1714 md Mary Talmadge b 1650 d? children George Hand 1700-1748, Thomas Hand 1705-1785, Jeremiah Hand 1706-1760, Daniel Hand 1710-1768, Nathan Hand 1710-1755, Eunice Hand 1712-1743, Sarah Hand 1718-1777. Thomas Hand(1646 Eng) parents–John Hand 1611-1659 Alice Stansborough 1617-? md Katherine Stubbs b 1645-? then md Martha Osborn 1646-1690 had several children (11) Johns fathr John Hand 1580-1661 mother Joan 1582-?children Mehitable Hand 1602-? and John Hand 1611-1659. When they came to America from England it looks like they settled in NY and NJ then eventually went to VA and KY etc. Hope this helps. I got some of this info from world tree and some from other websites. Good Luck!! 🙂 Greydove PS I am also looking for my Native roots, maybe we can help eachother. My ancesters some came from England and Ireland and on to PA to VA to WVA to OH to IN.
Interesting. :rolleyes: Our worlds could be linked somehow.
I wish I had more on Hannah Clements. I found 2 web sites each listing her father, each site listing a different name for her father. But when I reseached those name one came up as not her father for sure and the other just dead ended. 🙁
Carolyn C. Peevler
janette wrote: I have Elizabeth Clements and she married Owen Smith. Believe she is the daughter of Benjamin Clemets Jr. they lived in Southhampton Co on the Nottoway River and later in Brunswick Co. Benjamin Clements Jr grandfather on the maternal line is Richard Parker…His mother was Judith Parker Richard Parkers daughter… earlier notes have him as Saponi i believe.
Elizabeth Clemets is a new discovery for me as my great grandfather’s mother was not who we thought she was. Insted of Mallery Penix a later marrage to Martha Phillips Smith produced Sterling Phillip Hamblen and Martha Phillips Smith is a decendent of Elizabeth Clements and Owen Smith. I will be very interested if our woulds colide.
Janette
Hi Carolyn! You are most welcome for the info. I saw your Hannah Clements b 1780 VA d 20 Jul 1862 Ill md William L. Fugate b 1770 d 1831 (10 children) They md 25 Jan 1810 Bourbon Co., Ky. Thomas Clements, Hannah’s father, b1758/60 d 1850. Her Mother unknown and nothing back from Thomas? Don’t feel bad, I have a similar situation my GGG-Grandfather Samuel Hart b 1792/5 VA & Margaret (maiden name unknown) b 1799 d abt 1880. I keep digging though and maybe I’ll find something and hopefully so will you. Take care. Peace:) Greydove
Greydove,
I just noticed that one of the surnames you’re researching is “Reynolds”.
My cousin “Evelyn” is married to John Reynolds and they live at Marshall. Do you know them?
Carolyn C. Peevler
Greydove wrote: Hi Carolyn! You are most welcome for the info. I saw your Hannah Clements b 1780 VA d 20 Jul 1862 Ill md William L. Fugate b 1770 d 1831 (10 children) They md 25 Jan 1810 Bourbon Co., Ky. Thomas Clements, Hannah’s father, b1758/60 d 1850. Her Mother unknown and nothing back from Thomas? Don’t feel bad, I have a similar situation my GGG-Grandfather Samuel Hart b 1792/5 VA & Margaret (maiden name unknown) b 1799 d abt 1880. I keep digging though and maybe I’ll find something and hopefully so will you. Take care. Peace:) Greydove
Greydove,
I forgot to mention that I couldn’t find this Thomas Clements on the 1810 census of Bourbon Co KY. The year Hannah and William were married.
And unless I have the wrong information it is my understanding that a marriage had to take place in the Co the bride lived in.
On the 1810 census of Bourbon Co Ky I can only find a “Henry Clements” no Thomas. The whole family is listed as white with one Indian slave.
But after learning what I did on being listed as white, who knows:confused:
And because they were married in Jan she could have been living with this Henry Clements, a brother maybe :rolleyes: And at the time of the census she wouldn’t have been on it as there isn’t any females listed in her age bracket.
The best of luck with your search!
Carolyn C. Peevler
Greydove wrote: Hi Carolyn! You are most welcome for the info. I saw your Hannah Clements b 1780 VA d 20 Jul 1862 Ill md William L. Fugate b 1770 d 1831 (10 children) They md 25 Jan 1810 Bourbon Co., Ky. Thomas Clements, Hannah’s father, b1758/60 d 1850. Her Mother unknown and nothing back from Thomas? Don’t feel bad, I have a similar situation my GGG-Grandfather Samuel Hart b 1792/5 VA & Margaret (maiden name unknown) b 1799 d abt 1880. I keep digging though and maybe I’ll find something and hopefully so will you. Take care. Peace:) Greydove
Hi Carolyn! No I don’t know your cuz family that I know of. My Reynolds was my 6th GreatGrandma from PA. I searched some more for your Hannah’s father and you’re right , there wasn’t a Thomas listed on the 1810 cencus. There are some family trees on a website I subscribe to and 2 of them had Thomas listed as her father but the only source they gave was “one world tree” and that is not a reliable documentation , cause I guess its just based on what people put into the database. I have searched so hard for my Samuel Hart, looking for your Hannah’s father is refreshing change and anyway I could stumble into some of his info while I’m least expecting it. I read somewhere that another kinda sign,(indication) of possible Indian blood in family trees is when they just stop at a certain branch and I’m beginning to believe it. My tree goes back and back several generations on the top side, but the bottom side, where I suspect Indian connections it stops at the 6th generation from me. Well, if I find anything more for you, I’ll post. Good luck to you, too!! P.S. I’m thinking of a trip out to WVA, VA, PA sometime late next Spring–early Summer to backtrack my roots. I feel I must know , ya know? Peace & many Blessings:) Greydove
On dead ends with ndn ancestors….. something to watch for that I discovered is an overabundance of certain surnames in a specific “dead end” generation. For example, in Granville co, NC about mid 1700s there are suddenly Jones’ out the wazoo. Almost all the cases where Jones marries Jones, one will be easily tracable to the Jones families who migrated from eastern VA. The spouse will be a dead end. The spouse will often have the given name of the known Jones relative…. mother/father… sister/brother. I surmise that in most cases, the spouse was a local Eno-Shakoray ndn whose first need for a euro name was the marriage bond.
I am sure you have been told, but just in case you should google blue people of Kentucky, a lot of great info on the Fugates. It seems they ahd a genetic disorder that made some of them appear blue, especially when cold or angry.
Also, as far as Jones Dreaminghawk, I know what you mean, mine dropped out of the sky and landed in Kentucky. What a horrible name to have to trace LOL:eek:
I’ve googled Fugates till I’m blue in the face! 😉
Personally none of my line that I know of has been blue. If I read it correctly is was mainly in one line that married another family I believe the name was Smith and thier genetics didn’t blend at all. 😮
This has been discussed at length on the Fugate Forum.
But I can’t recall it all nor did I print it out as it went back to a line that doesn’t come directly to me.
Every family has it’s oddities. 🙂
Carolyn C. Peevler
melungeon wrote: I am sure you have been told, but just in case you should google blue people of Kentucky, a lot of great info on the Fugates. It seems they ahd a genetic disorder that made some of them appear blue, especially when cold or angry.
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