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Here is the person’s email that did the above Tree.
Not sure if it still works
I think jack Goins may still have funding money for collins Dna testing.
I would kick in something – my ggggrandfather John Collins and his wife Lydia Tanner, who ended up in McDowell Co., WV have SOME connection to this line. I’ve seen several reports of a marriage bond for John Collins and Lydia Toner, Oct. 8, 1821, Grainger County, Griffin Collins, bondsman.
from Brenda Collins Dillon:
In 1821 Meredith’s son John W. Collins SR. married a woman in Grainger Co. TN by the name of Lydia Toner/Stoner. That record was found in the University of Tennessee Archives . John W. was noted to be in Meredith’s household up until 1820. That 1821 marriage record showed Griffin Collins as bondsman. I believe they were related , possibly brothers. John W. (1838) later showes up in Pike Co. Ky court records as one of four sons accused by Meredith of stealing his land. First wife Lydia died abt 1848-50 and he met up with Mary Roark in Clay co. Ky. Mary Roark is descended from the BROCK line.
I’m not sure all of this is right – Lydia signed (actually marked) a deed in 1869 in McDowell County settling John’s property, (John had died before 1867), and the John Collins who was married to Mary Roark shows up in the 1870 census – but there are other references “out there” to the 1821 marriage record. It may be that the John Collins who was son of Meredith WAS married to Mary Roark, and the John Collins who married Lydia Toner (my grandmother always said her name was TANNER) was a different man.
I would really like to see exactly what this marriage record says – last week I was looking at Ancestry in the library, and they listed a new set of Tennessee marriage records, among them a Jos. Collins who married “Lyd,” with the same date of October 8, 1821, but I couldn’t get the image to load. Hope that’s a mistake.
ANYHOW, yes, I would kick in something if a fund were set up.
Good info BarBara 🙂
We have a National Archives building like 4 cities over from me but I’m not really good at finding every thing there…lots and lots of info from all over the place in there. They also have a huge section on Native american records.
You may be able to find the city the marriage was in and then find a historical society for that area…they usually will give free info for you. The Historical society in Paulding county Ga has been very useful in helping me track down alot of info on my family during the time they was in that county.
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/collins/results.html
Collins DNA
Last updated april 19th 2008.
I wish I knew what all these DNA results mean.
Roger Collins
(DNA testing is free for direct line males.)
I am coordinating a project to determine if the various Collins families
who came into southwest Georgia in the 1800s are of any relation. We
can do this through a simple DNA test, and I am hoping to find a few
volunteers to participate.
My great grandfather was born in 1855 in Leon County, Fla., and by 1880
was farming near Whigham, Ga. Other families included so far are the
descendants of Ezekiel Collins, Jesse Collins, Francis Marion
Collins(son of Seaborn), Bryant Collins, William Henry Collins and others.
One family recently included in the project is that of Willoughby King
Collins (b. ca. 1810, GA), and I have come to wonder possibly if he is
connected to the Tattnall County Collinses.
I am e-mailing you from the Ancestry.com material you posted and
would like to hear from you. If through the DNA project we can
establish whether these families are related–or not–it can save family
researchers the frustration of barking up the wrong tree and get our
noses pointed in the right direction.
Participating in the study is literally as simple as rubbing a Q-tip
inside your cheek. We need only one male member of each family line.
However, he MUST be a direct male descendant (still bearing the Collins
name). Since this is my research project, I will take care of the
cost of the test. The results will be posted on the Relative Genetics
website and will be shared gladly with you and all who participate.
If you would like more information, or know of a male Collins in your
line who would participate,please foward my e-mail to him, or contact me.
Also, I have posted a message recently on the Collins GenForum (Post #
12256) which includes the above information.
Thank you,
Roger Collins
Ga-Nc Collins wrote: Here is the person’s email that did the above Tree.
Not sure if it still works
I think jack Goins may still have funding money for collins Dna testing.
Is that Frankie Blackburn’s email address?
I am not sure what the last name is…I have been trying to figure it out also lol
That is good info you posted on the DNA testing.
I wonder where the North Ga Collins came from.
Wow…thanks folks…I’ll email my cousin straight away and fetch a email or phone number for this Male Griffin Collisn direct descendant out west…this is wonderful news….thanks so very much! Blessings and ((((((Hugs)))))~~~~Laurie
The 1821 Grainger County marriage bond for John Collins and Lydia Toner turned out to be at the Tennessee State Library and Archives in Nashville. It’s faint but readable, except for the witness’s signature. Griffin Collins is bondsman, and both he and John Collins “sign” by making their mark. The back is stamped Grainger, Roll No. B-2514, 1821, alphabetical by groom.
To answer an earlier question, Chester Collins on ancestry.com is a descendant of Griffin Collins. His haplogroup was R1a
Thanks, Sean. Do the results show any relationship between Vardy and Griffin? (I don’t have an Ancestry subscription)
I compared their results Vardy from ftdna and Griffin from Ancestry.com and they match; there is definately a close relationship.
Thought I would post on here some add’l information about Griffin (III) Collins. I call him that because my lineage is Annie> Chester Earl Collins
(1918)> Charles Lewis Collins (1880) >Griffin (III) Collins 1833>Griffin (Jr) Collins 1796>Griffin (Sr) Collins 1773 and the probably on to John Collins>Old Thomas Collins of Flatt River.
Griffin (III) was first married to Rachel Ann Collins. His second marriage was to Margaret Milam (Milom, Milum) in Johnson County, KY on 11 Feb 1880. I have a copy of their marriage bond/license. There were more children besides Emma who is listed on this site and Frankie Blackburn’s site. They are as follows:
Charles Lewis Collins 1880-1954
Cora Collins 1882 -1933
Emma Collins 1888
Bud Collins 1890 – 1963
Laura Collins abt 1891/93 – abt 1922
Griffin III was born in 1833, not 1835 according to a family letter
Can discuss more later.
Annie Collins Storland
The DNA test for Chester Collins – Chester is my brother. Vardy Collins is our first cousin 5 times removed as far as I can tell.
Annie Collins Storland
Old Thomas Collins is haplogroup E1b1a so there’s no relation between Old Tom & Vardy/Griffin. Most likely Vardy and Griffin are of English descent through the male lineage, that’s what R1a indicates. E1b1a is West African in origin.
I am an E1b1a, but my dna does not match Old Thomas Collins. My trail ends in 1862 with John Collins of Scott County,Virginia. Of my genetic matches the farthest any of us have gotten is Moses Collins born abt 1776 in North Carolina.
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