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granny7 can you tell us more about where your people came from and the dates, it’s an interesting story re. Corn Blossom, I would ask some of the Qualla Cherokee people about her when researching her further.
I would trust the LDS information. Powell, Watson and Matthews in NC or VA are names I’ve heard of often from families reporting Indian descent.
Another new member here…I was reading my email the other evening and the URL for this site was posted and after reading just a bit decided this was definitely a place of interest!
All my life I’ve heard that my 5th great-grandmother – Sarah Mounts Wilson was part Indian or Cherokee or ??? We’ve never really known and of course, there are still those around the Wayne Co., WV area that will say “Do you really think that she was part Indian?”
My feeling has always been a definite YES!!! Out of the 13 children that Sarah and James had we seem to have all heard the same story down through the years AND having lost contact with each other, it’s not as if it’s just a figment of our imagination.
Every line that I’ve ever had contact with, we’ve all passed the same heritage stories down.
My connection is by way of:
Sarah Mounts and James Wilson through their daughter Sarah Wilson who married Robert ‘Robin’ Ball.
Their daughter Cassie Ball (whom I have a picture of that was taken about 1911-1913 with 4 of her grandchildren) m. Tolbert Huff.
Their son Henderson Huff Jr. m. Juda Ann Ferguson
Their daughter Laura Huff m. John W. Blankenship
Their daughter Ruby Blankenship m. Jesse H. Chaffin and their daughter was my mother.
Then while reading some of the other notes in this thread, I saw the Bolling name. My Bolling connection comes from my father’s CLAY side.
My dad Claude W. Clay, s/o George W. Clay, s/o Mary Elizabeth Clark, d/o Eliza Ann Cook, d/o Nancy Ann Bolling who was the d/o Joseph Bolling & Rebecca Maddox.
So I’m really happy to have found this site and someday maybe I’ll be able to fill in some more of my missing links.
Thanks!
Lynzey
PS…there is also the story in my ADKINS line about Parker and Bluesky and their daughter Charity. Charity is my 4th great-grandmother twice on my Dad’s maternal line.
I’m not sure what tribe they belonged to either.
Lynzey
Welcome Lynzey!
Wow! You flashed so many interesting names. I recall the Blankenship here because growing up I shared a phone line with a Blankenship family down the road, who had teenagers when I was in elementary school, that I never really knew, except Dad said they were part Indian (in NW IN) and I recall seeing the name here. The standard welcome here is feel free to use the search feature; enter your names and see what comes up.
We look forward to getting to know you Lynzey:)
Adkins is another big name here. And if you enter your names in the Share Geneology Forum here along with the dates, locations and any other information you have, Bill may have time to add to your base of knowledge.
I am also related to your Ferguson/Trout line as well, Edmund Osburn and Mary Noe were my ancestors as well. My research shows that the Wilsons had Shawnee connections most likely, as the Wilsons in Wayne County…know the area well…well…some of them married Shawnee descendants. Mounts could have been Indian, may have not been…but if she was, it was more than likely she was of Shawnee extraction, however I won’t say for certain, but Wayne County was a proverbial “hotbed” of Shawnee descendants at one time. Because of intermarriage, I would safely bet I am related to you a few times over in some way. Same applies with East Lynn, where my mother is from. Almost everyone there is related to me it seems. Trying to sort out who all is and isn’t, but think right now that finding who isn’t related would be the easiest route, but nah…they are both angles I would have to work through to sort out. The marriage books I have do not lie and show that there was alot of intermarriage in the area, the Adkins however take the prize though.
Mounts could have been Indian, may have not been
Don’t know if you’ve browsed the archives here; one of the frequent posters, though not lately (Brenda Ferrell Sampsel), has Mounts ancestry, and has put quite a bit on the forum about her line. In case there’s a tie-in, I just mention it. See the following thread, maybe especially posts 42 and 31. Or anyway, around there. I have corresponded with her about some of the documentation of the (originally Swedish) Mounts family in the Indian trade. That’s not on the forum, though.
http://www.saponitown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1724&page=3
James P. Wilson’s wife Sarah was said to be the daughter of a Sarah ?, who in turn was said to be Cherokee. The Wilsons were married into the familes who were known to be of Shawnee descent. Augusta County Virginia is where it is said Sarah Mounts came from, circa 1750’s. Augusta almost borders the eastern part of West Virginia today, but I am willing to bet that the area may have been larger, concerning Augusta County, during that time-frame.
Regardless, my belief is that most likely because of where she is said to have come from geographically, it is highly unlikely, not impossible, but highly unlikely she was of Cherokee extraction. The Cherokee were not that far north during that time frame, and were basically standing in Shawnee territory. I am also factoring in what I know about the Wilsons, their connections to the Wellmans, and the Wellman connection to the Shawnee in Wayne County.
Just as a for instance on the county…The Cyrus family lived in the county and were connected to the Blue family that are well known for their Shawnee ties. Again, the county was swarming with Shawnee descendants, I have heard the “Cherokee” stories quite a bit from the living generations before me, but have found Shawnee was the real story. No one today speaks about it because they most likely do not know. I have no idea as to why but figure they thought nothing of it at the time because everyone else was Shawnee descendants, or they just swept alot under the rug during their assimilation into the area.
I have found a few, very few, of those in the county tracing back to possible Powhatan connections. But have yet to find Cherokee. Cherokee is most known, popular, world wide, for whatever reason (meaning I have never figured out why that is the case…nothing against the Cherokee), so I think the reason Cherokee is mentioned in lore because of it.
Interesting about the Cresap/Swearingen connection in the provided link from Pappy Dick. Something I have not heard about yet, but something to investigate. Odd that I would be connected to Cresap twice (French and Swearingen), but nothing is shocking about it as a possiblity. Lines criss-cross alot in my lines from Wayne Co.
Augusta almost borders the eastern part of West Virginia today, but I am willing to bet that the area may have been larger, concerning Augusta County, during that time-frame.
Since your date for Sarah Mounts is a little vague, and also “it is said” rather than some specific citation of a record, you shouln’t worry about the vast boundaries of Augusta County. It used to be about like saying “Eastern North America.” Not quite, but leaning in that direction. I’ll toss in a quote from a Staunton VA evangelist’s web site that isn’t necessarily correct, but catches the drift:
“Augusta County (Virginia) was the largest county in America during the mid-18th century, stretching from the Blue Ridge Mountains in the east all the way to the Great Lakes in the north, the Mississippi River in the west, and North Carolina in the south. Soon after, the county was carved up, eventually resulting in the Augusta County that exists today.”
Almost the same could be said for “Orange County” a little earlier, and “Fincastle County” a little later. There are discussions of this in the front chapters of books by Kegley, Wayland, et al. These chapters are not so often or so carefully read as the later ones; people typically go to those books to find their ancestors, and the Index of names isn’t going to send many of them to those early chapters.
It might send you Cresaps there, though.
Steve
If you have French and Swearingen, you might be connected to me twice. I don’t know how the French connects. I only know that they are found around my folks in PA, OH, and IA. A lady in church named French came up to me and said that we were related. I thought it was through my father, but then found out it was through my mother years later when I found the mixed family that my great grandparents denied.
I also have a Mounts who marries into the line that has the Swearingen connection. Swearingen comes through my grandfather’s Carpenter line while French is through my grandmother’s Green/Sinkey/Huston line. And yes, that latter has Shawnee even though what we heard was Blackfoot Cherokee. My grandmother told my aunt that it was Sac and Fox, but I think that it was Shawnee who lived among the Sac and Fox in IA. Their WV/PA origin would not imply Sac and Fox, even though I read an historian’s account of some Fox found on a PA reservation.
Techteach
I just found out recently that I have another unrelated line of French (Thomas French and Elizabeth Stanton…French, Stanton, Murfin, Bunting, Wells) on my paternal side from the New Jersey area. My great grandmother descended from this line of French, which I cannot link to my maternal French (mentioned in above posts) in any way.
Hi, My name is Gavin aka”whitehawk” and I am a new member to the Saponi Town. I live in West Central Georgia at the present time and I was reared in Southeast GA. near the Okefenokee Swamp. My family has connections to the Lower Creek of Georgia and the Coharie of N.C. I also believe that my Family have connections to the Saponi and Other Eastern Siouan Tribes through the Names: Roberson, Rawlinson, Kelly, Evans, Jones, Davis, and Wood The Roberson line is from the Robeson Co. N.C. area. The Rawlinson Line is from the Virginia-North Carolina Border area of Granville County N.C. and from Richland/Sumter Co. S.C. area. The Kelly and Evans line is from the Edgecombe/Halifax County N.C. area. The Jones line is from the Virginia and Halifax County N.C. area. The Davis line is from the Orange and Chatham County N.C. Area. and the Wood line is from the Bertie and Halifax County N.C. area. Other names within my Family that have Native American ties are: Ammons and West-Coharie; Redd and Kaney-Lower Creek; Rowell-supposedly Cherokee(It has been stated that the connection is Cherokee, but unsure at this time). I am hoping that joining the Saponi Town Forum will help me in my Geneaolgy research into these various family lines. Thank You for having this site.
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