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I have also run across some interesting history to supplement your’s. It seems that many of those folks related to those indian/portuguese actually descended from Russian Jews back in the Boyar times, so in essence are byorigin, Sephardic or Ashkenazi Jews back in the 500-1000 ad period. Briefly, what happened was that these “”Anousim” were jews made to convert by pain of death to Catholicism and were eventually deported to to Portugal and France by Ferdinand and Isabella, and eventually were further deported to places like NorthAmerica and New France [Canada] where they intermarried with many of the Indians, including Miqmak, Delaware, etc, and ultimately, after admixture, followed the historic paths of the Acadians, and possibly, even the Praying Indians of the 1700s. My own DNA and autosomal results bear this out to me, yet they arejust beginning to research these connections to the extent I propose. Kind Regards, Shana Williams [maternal last name:London] from Western North Carolina
Brenda Collins Dillon;2872 wrote: Melungeon=Portuguese (Caucasian)/Amerindian hybrid, probably first
appearing in the New World 50 years before the arrival of the English at
Jamestown, VA.
According to journals recorded by the first exployers sent out of Jamestown to explore the lands to the south the men came upon a group of people living among friendly Indians in log cabins and speaking a broken Elizabethan English. The people wore black clothing and the men had long beards. At a certain time of the day a bell would toll and the people would stop whatever they were doing and bough in prayer. These people identified themselves as Portagee. (source: Brent Kennedy said he found the info in the archives of NC)
NOTE: If this is correct, and I believe it was, then the people that landed at Jamestown was not the first settlers to reach the colonies as the textbooks so state.
ADAMS ADKINS ALLEN ALLMOND ASHWORTH *
BARKER BARNES BASS BECKLER BELCHER BEDGOOD BELL
BENNETT BERRY BEVERLY
BIGGS BOLEN BOLLING BOLTON BOONE BOWLIN
BOWLING BOWMAN BRADBY BRANHAM BRAVBOY
BRIGER/BRIDGER BROGAN BROOKS
BROWN BUNCH BULLION BURTON BUTLER BUTTERS
BUXTON BYRD *
CAMPBELL CARRICO CARTER CASTEEL CAUDILL CHAPMAN
CHAVIS CLARK CLOUD COAL
COFFEY COLE COLEMAN COLES COLLEY COLLIER COLLINS
COLLINSWORTH COLYER
COOPER CORMAN COUNTS COX COXE CRIEL CROSTON
CROW CUMBA CUMBO CUMBOW
CURRY CUSTALOW *
DALTON DARE DAVIS DENHAM DENNIS DIAL DOOLEY
DORTON DOYLE DRIGGERS DULA
DYE DYESS *
ELY EPPS EVANS *
FIELDS FREEMAN FRENCH *
GALLAGHER GANN GARLAND GIBSON GIPSON GOINS
GOINGS GORVENS GOWAN GOWEN
GRAHAM GREEN(E) GWINN *
HALL HAMMON(D) HARMON HARRIS HARVIE HARVEY
HAWKES HENDRICKS HENDRIX
HILL HILLMAN HOGGE HOLMES HOPKINS HOWE
HYATT *
JACKSON JAMES JOHNSON JONES *
KEITH(E) KENNEDY KISER *
LANGSTON LASIE LAWSON LOCKLEAR LOPES LOWRY LUCAS
*
MADDOX MAGGARD MAJOR MALE MALONE(Y) MARSH
MARTIN MAYLE MINARD MINER
MINOR MIZER MOORE MORLEY MOSELY
MOZINGO MULLINS *
NASH NELSON NEWMAN NICCANS NICHOLS NOEL NORRIS *
ORR OSBORN OSBORNE OXENDINE *
PAGE PAINE PATTERSON PERKINS PERRY PHELPS PHIPPS
PRINDER POLLY POWELL
POWERS PRITCHARD PRUITT *
RAMEY RASNICK REAVES REVELS REEVES RICE
RICHARDSON RIDDLE RIVERS
ROBERSON ROBERTSON ROBINSON RUSSELL *
SAMMONS SAMPSON SAWYER SCOTT SEXTON SHAVIS
SHEPHARD SHEPHERD SHORT
SHORTT SIZEMORE SMILING SMITH STALLARD STANLEY
STEEL STEVENS STEWART
STROTHER SWEATT SWETT SWINDALL *
TALLY TACKETT TAYLOR THOMPSON TIPTON TOLLIVER
TUPPANCE TURNER *
VANOVER VICARS VICCARS VICKERS *
WARE WATTS WEAVER WHITE WHITED WILKINS WILLIAMS
WILLIAMSON WILLIS WILSON
WISBY WISE WOOD WRIGHT WYATT WYNN
Wow, I see quite a few surnames here that are listed in my research, I want to share what was given to me as it pertains to my Mom’s real father, a discovery made in 2002. I will post the surnames of my people in my profile or here if appropiate.
I discovered my Mom’s real father was a prominent judge in Annapolis, Maryland, Robert MOSS. This is just a portion of the MOSS history. There are other manuals which add to the rich hisotry of this family. The manual is unquie in its own handwritten format by the judge’s son. Like I said there’s more to the MOSS but I am sadden that ethnicity barriers will probably keep me from finding out about my Mom’s real paternal family history unless someone comes forth. Mom will be 91 this August…
According to the manual, Richard MOSSE died in the 1st Indian Massacre in Virginia, March 22, 1622, one of 347 white settlers during this event. I believe he landed in Jamestown, VA, widowed with children and the intent to find a second wife in the new World. It’s been a while since I’ve looked at the info, but one name sticks out and that is “Inez Natividad Zaragoza,” wife of Robert Graham MOSS, son of Robert MOSS (Mom’s real Dad) and Maggie Agusta BOONE-MOSS. Inez was the daughter of Miguel M. Zaragoza, son of Miguel D. Zaragoza. It looks like they were from Texas (can’t make small handwriting out). Anyway, I have lots of questions running through my head…it takes some time reading through the handwritten manual. After reading your piece, I have even more questions.
I see the name Ely on this list. The Indian background in my family comes from my ggGrandmother, Elisabeth Ely. I know her mothers side was where it was supposed to come from. Her gGrandfather, Peter, born in the 1760’s probably in Pennsylvania showed up on no official records. Unofficial info was from when he was married in 1787. He lived in the Lancaster/Lebanon/Dauphin county area for awhile, some of his children were born in that area. Do Pennsylvania Elys show up in any documented info that anyone has? I assumed they were Pa.Dutch/German. The family story is there was Black Dutch in Elisabeths background. Maybe this explains it. Thanks for any info available.
This is probably a different Ely family (they think they’re English, not German), but who knows?
http://bow1.tripod.com/ely/Ely_Family.pdf
They seem to think these Elys lived at least for a while in Pennsylvania. The family had some interaction with my ggggGrandfather James Adair/Addair in Montgomery County, Virginia, in 1789, when he appeared to be helping Jane Ely apply for land. Later these Elys ended up in Lee County, Va. My family said the Adairs were part Indian (they said Cherokee, but…).
Barbara Adair Bauer;35507 wrote: This is probably a different Ely family (they think they’re English, not German), but who knows?
http://bow1.tripod.com/ely/Ely_Family.pdf
…my ggggGrandfather James Adair/Addair in Montgomery County…).
Barbara…
What part of Montgomery County? Sandy Spring?
Thanks for the reply. I’m not sure they were of German background. Just my guess as that area was settled by a lot of German background people. Many changed the spelling of their name to the english, Ely or Eley. There were English back ground Elys too though. I had never heard of the Ely name associated with anything but a German or English decent before. This same Peter Ely has been associated with western Pa. and Ohio, so he either really got around or there is a lot of crossed up information. Again, thanks, I figured it was worth the inquiry.
Jane Ely’s land was on the east side of the New River, above the mouth of Spruce Run. That would be Giles County now, near Eggleston. James Adair ran a ferry across the New River at that time, across from where Radford is now.
I just notice another ggggGrandfather of mine, Adam Johnston, witnessed the deed when Jane Ely sold her land in 1796. He’s Irish, and immigrated to Pennsylvania sometime between 1785 and 1790. He was in Virginia by 1796.
There appears to be a Methodist connection – James Adair has connections to Edward Morgan, an early Methodist preacher in the area, and to Alexander Page, who donated land for the first Methodist church in the area. Abram Morgan (I don’t know if there’s a connection) was also involved in Jane Ely’s land transaction, and Edward and John Stafford, also witnesses when she sold her land, and brothers-in-law of Adam Johnston, were noted in a Methodist history as early converts of Edward Morgan’s.
For what it’s worth, Mary B. Kegley, the historian and genealogist who wrote the “Early Adventurers on Western Waters” series on this area, also wrote a book of historical fiction, “Free in Chains,” about a real Indian slave, Rachel Findlay, who sued for her freedom and got it in 1820. Edward Morgan, the Methodist minister, is a minor character in the book, and it is mentioned that his congregation included two slaves around 1782. I think that part is probably not fictional. So this may have been a community open to mixed race people.
Where is Sandy Spring?
The Findley case is an actual case, a freedom suit based on Indian ancestry. Choctaw, if I recall, but I don’t remember the Virginia counties the cases were tried in. As I recall, it involved numerous descendants.
Yes, I think Kegley was pretty true to her sources, the court records. It’s only fiction because she made it into a story and made up conversations, etc. to make a novel.
Kegley cites records from Wythe County, Henry County, Powhatan County, Chesterfield County, Montgomery County and Giles County, Virginia, and Madison County Alabama. She says Rachel Findley’s family was Catawba.
Yep, it’s Choctaw. At least according to some of the court testimony. Two Choctaw children were brought to Va. as slaves.
Sadly, only the descendants of the female child were eligible to sue for freedom….
In Mason County records for 1867, I noted the names Hosea Forrest, Silas Forrest, and heirs of Wm. Forrest in a road surveyors report for the Arbuckle area of Mason County WV. Is there any connection surnamewise?
I am researching a Civil War mystery regarding my ancestor Enoch Jeffers/Jeffries who dies under questionable circumstances in Mason Co. WV in 1863.
I am looking for ANY info or help that I can find on my Collins link. I am connected via Robert Collins son of Amos Collins around the Clay County ky area. He was married a couple of times ( I am sure of ) His wife that was listed in the 1870/1880 census was Mary A (Parsons) Collins I found this out by looking at the death certificates of her children Parsons was listed as her maiden name on 2 of the 3 children .Her daughter Martha Collins Married to Bill Stacy was my Great grandmother. I can not find any info on Mary Parsons collins. Please help with this if you have any info at all on Robert and Mary. It has Mary listed as having her first son Ulysse in 1869 she was to have been born around 1830 . This would have made her 39 when she had her first child???? Seems a little odd I think she may have had a previous family somewhere.
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