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In the 1880 census it shows a james Baldwin, father john, mother Nancy. I think this is the family, as they are located in Hawkins County. I think the family was from Blackwater, Tennessee, which I think is near this area. I am not for sure, what do you think?
1880 United States Federal Census Record
about James Baldwin
Name: James Baldwin
Age: 7
Estimated birth year:
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relationship to head-of-household: Son
Home in 1880: District 17, Hawkins, Tennessee
Marital status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Father’s name: John Baldwin
Father’s birthplace: TN
Mother’s name: Nancy Baldwin
Mother’s birthplace: TN
The Hawkins Co people look like a different family.
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Sorry I didn’t post this before:
1880 Buchanan Co., Va Census; ED14 Garden Mag. Dist; 28 & 29 June; Sheet 32D; family 263;
BALDWIN, John; 39, farmer, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Celia; 33, wife, Va, Va, Va.
………….., JAMES H; 8, son, Va.
………….., Squire; 4, son, Va.
………….., Tude (?), 2, dau, Va.
………….., Sarah J; 16, STEP-DAU, Va, Va, Va.
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1900 Buchanan Co., Va Census; ED8 Grundy Mag Dist;
Sheet 17A, 26 June;
family 290:
ADKINS, Squire; Day Laborer; Jan 1817, 83, Wid’d; Va, Va, Va.
……….., Nancy; Sister; Oct 1849, 50, sgl, 2 childr.,1 living; Va, Va
……….., Miles G; Nephew; May 1886, 14, Va, Va, Va.
Sheet 17B, 27 June; family 294:
ADKINS, James; farmer, Mar 1843, 57, m’d 20, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Rebecca; wife, May 1851?, 49, m’d 20, 2/2, Va, Va, Va
+ 2 dau’s, Millie, 17; and Emaline, 13.
family 295:
THOMAS, Harison; farmer, Jan 1865, 35, sgl, Va, Va, Va.
family 296:
ADKINS, Mary; Head, Apr 1864, 34, Wid’d, 4/4, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Sophy, dau, May 1893, 7, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Wm L., son, Oct 1894, 5, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Armilda, dau, May 1897, 3, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Mary J., dau, Apr 1899, 1, Va, Va, Va.
family 297:
BALDWIN, Squire, farmer, May 1877, 23, m’d 2yrs, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Mary J., wife, Mar 1880, 20, m’d 2yr, 1 child, Va, Va, Va
………….., Wm. M., son, Apr 1899, 1, Va.
family 299:
BALDWIN, JAMES, farmer, Mar 1873, 27, m’d 7yr, Va, Va, Va.
………….., IBBY, wife, Apr 1876, 24, m’d 7yr, 4 children, Va, Va, Va
………….., Louisa, dau, May 1894, 6, Va.
………….., Mary J., dau, Apr 1896, 4, Va.
………….., C- – le B., son, Jan 1898, 2, Va.
………….., Mendie, dau, Apr 1899, 1, Va.
family 300:
BALDWIN, John, farmer, May 1850, 50, m’d 33yr, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Celia, wife, Apr 1845, 55, m’d 33yr, 6 childr, 4 living, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Robert, son, Jan 1883, 17, Va, Va, Va.
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Here is John Floyd Baldwin after Celia passed in 1902.
1910 Buchanan Co., Va Census; ED8 Garden Dist, West of Louisa River; 28 & 29 April; Sheet 13B; family 227:
BALDWIN, JOHN F., farmer, 58, m’d 2x, m’d 2yr, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Mary A., wife, 53, m’d 2x, m’d 2yr, 10/8, Va, Va, Va.
BARTON, Louise A., Step-dau, 13, Va, Va, Va.
…………, Tilda, Step-dau, 8, Va, Va, Va.
( “10/8” is 10 children, 8 living)
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Bill
Bill,
You are absolutely right, you have them there. The family must have lived in Buchanan county for a long time. I am heading East this summer and may make a special trip to the area; see what I can find… Thanks for finding them. I would still like to find just where the Native roots come in, but it all takes time. Thanks again.
Shirley
Hello Shirley….all! *waves* I decided to post here about what I know tell of this line of Gibsons and Coles rather than on Shirley’s reply link re: the Carmel Indians of Highland County, OH. First of all…thank you Shirley for replying and yes…I have heard of the Cole Nation…if you are in fact referring to the Cherokee Coles out in Oklahoma…they are very well documented as being Cherokee and yes, some of them do connect to my lines one way or another. As a group, I have not examined them extensively as I have been primarilly interested in trying to discern my early KY/NC/VA Cole connections to my Nichols and Gibson lines. Richard Carlson is very knowledgeable about that particular line and there is a lovely gal named Irene Cole Farmer who I speak with regularly who is also an exceptional Cole researcher…I can certainly ask her about Vashti/Basheeba next time we phone chat. *wink*
In requards to your Arch Gibson line…I already had in my tree, 4 men with that name variant: 1. Archelous b: 1763 MD Sarah Sumner. 2. Archelous b: 1789 MD Polly Begley 3. Archibald b: 1782 MD Priscilla Cecil & 4. Archibald b: 1822 MD Jane Rogers. Based on that info…I think there was yet another “Arch” Gibson entirely unless one of them MD another wife in Vashti/Basheeba Cole. When I read down your descendany I noticed that your Arch’s son : Martin Gibson “clang a bell” for me…especially given the census data posted by Bill referencing the neighbors…to explain: I DO have a Martin Gibson I show as being born in 1776 in Orange Co, NC and although I did not have parents attached to him…I DID have him as having 2 sisters: Dicey/Pricey and Susannah. I have no data on his sister Susannah BUT….his sister Dicey, also called Pricey did marry, of all people: Valentine “Vol” Collins! Valentine being b: 1768 in Wilkes Co, NC son of Samuel Collins and an UNK Vardeman gal (They being the parents of the above reply mentioned Vardemon “Vardy” Collins , for whom Vardy Springs and Vadry Valley etc were so named and undoubtedly one of the most infamous “Melungeons”). As to Valentine & Dicey’s CH, I have 6 listed so far (but rumor has it he fathered a total of 24 *gasp* children!)…those I account for are: 1. Obedience “Biddy (MD William Cole, 11 issue) 2. Joshua Collins (MD Elizabeth Dale issue 7 CH) 3. Otery “Otra” (MD Frances Nichols issue 6 CH) 4. Meredith (very difficult to discern who he may have MD…the “jury” is still out on him.) 5. Bradley (no known info re: marriage or issue) & 6. David ( MD Polly Dale issue 6 CH).
As to your Thomas Gibson…that is a name I have plenty of in my tree…and by dates…the closest one I could possibly connect him as being would be a Thomas Gibson b: abt 1718…he being the son of Thomas Gibson b: 1691 in St. Martin’s , Hanover Co, VA d: 1734 DO who MD: Mary Frances Allen b: UNK date in St. Martin’s and who perhaps not coincidentally died the same year as her husband. I show their CH as being: 1. Mary Gibson (MD Moses Riddle, 7 issue) 2. Frances (MD an UNK Hundey/Hundrey, no known issue) 3. John (no known MG or issue) 4. Valentine (MD Elizabeth F. Garrett 11 issue) and Thomas mentioned above…who I (don’t hold me to this please) SUSPECT may have married Martha Riddle in 1774 in Goochland Co, VA…just a hunch of mine that I tossed in my notes…but given the Gibson and other allied names connections to the Riddle/Ridley’s….it would not suprise me at all.
I did not even have Vashti/Basheeba Cole in my tree and nor did I have her father Levin Cole…if I can procurew a definative connection from Thomas to Thomas to Arch to my Martin then I’ll do so…please give me your thought/opinions on these folks too….and by all means BILL>…chime in and help a girl out Sir!!!
Also perhaps worthy of mention is that there was an Ezekial Gibson who was the son of Valentine Gibson & Elizabeth Frances nee Garrett….and he MD a gal named Rachel Terry and I do not have their CH indexed yet but noted that they did have 11 issue.
One more thing…I have numerous Baldwin’s…but my line connect to my paternal line and were of Quaker descent…originating in VA and PA and moving to OH whereby they MD into my Whitacre/Kelly surnames.
Jinkies….I hope we can sort this crew out and make more connections too…it would be right nice to be able to MERGE a few more ppl! Blessings to all from here to there….keep up the good work~~~~Laurie
Blondeyelaurie!
I would really like to figure out who Mary Frances Allen belongs to. My Allen’s are in the deeds of Hanover co Robert with son Joseph signing…Joseph is my direct line. Robert is his father. I wonder if she fits in here somewhere. I have never found everything out about Joseph. I saw that Thomas Gibson’s will doesn’t mention a wife but if she died before him it wouldn’t.
Sue J
BlondeyeLaurie wrote: Hello Shirley….all! *waves* I decided to post here about what I know tell of this line of Gibsons and Coles rather than on Shirley’s reply link re: the Carmel Indians of Highland County, OH. First of all…thank you Shirley for replying and yes…I have heard of the Cole Nation…if you are in fact referring to the Cherokee Coles out in Oklahoma…they are very well documented as being Cherokee and yes, some of them do connect to my lines one way or another. As a group, I have not examined them extensively as I have been primarilly interested in trying to discern my early KY/NC/VA Cole connections to my Nichols and Gibson lines. Richard Carlson is very knowledgeable about that particular line and there is a lovely gal named Irene Cole Farmer who I speak with regularly who is also an exceptional Cole researcher…I can certainly ask her about Vashti/Basheeba next time we phone chat. *wink*
In requards to your Arch Gibson line…I already had in my tree, 4 men with that name variant: 1. Archelous b: 1763 MD Sarah Sumner. 2. Archelous b: 1789 MD Polly Begley 3. Archibald b: 1782 MD Priscilla Cecil & 4. Archibald b: 1822 MD Jane Rogers. Based on that info…I think there was yet another “Arch” Gibson entirely unless one of them MD another wife in Vashti/Basheeba Cole. When I read down your descendany I noticed that your Arch’s son : Martin Gibson “clang a bell” for me…especially given the census data posted by Bill referencing the neighbors…to explain: I DO have a Martin Gibson I show as being born in 1776 in Orange Co, NC and although I did not have parents attached to him…I DID have him as having 2 sisters: Dicey/Pricey and Susannah. I have no data on his sister Susannah BUT….his sister Dicey, also called Pricey did marry, of all people: Valentine “Vol” Collins! Valentine being b: 1768 in Wilkes Co, NC son of Samuel Collins and an UNK Vardeman gal (They being the parents of the above reply mentioned Vardemon “Vardy” Collins , for whom Vardy Springs and Vadry Valley etc were so named and undoubtedly one of the most infamous “Melungeons”). As to Valentine & Dicey’s CH, I have 6 listed so far (but rumor has it he fathered a total of 24 *gasp* children!)…those I account for are: 1. Obedience “Biddy (MD William Cole, 11 issue) 2. Joshua Collins (MD Elizabeth Dale issue 7 CH) 3. Otery “Otra” (MD Frances Nichols issue 6 CH) 4. Meredith (very difficult to discern who he may have MD…the “jury” is still out on him.) 5. Bradley (no known info re: marriage or issue) & 6. David ( MD Polly Dale issue 6 CH).
As to your Thomas Gibson…that is a name I have plenty of in my tree…and by dates…the closest one I could possibly connect him as being would be a Thomas Gibson b: abt 1718…he being the son of Thomas Gibson b: 1691 in St. Martin’s , Hanover Co, VA d: 1734 DO who MD: Mary Frances Allen b: UNK date in St. Martin’s and who perhaps not coincidentally died the same year as her husband. I show their CH as being: 1. Mary Gibson (MD Moses Riddle, 7 issue) 2. Frances (MD an UNK Hundey/Hundrey, no known issue) 3. John (no known MG or issue) 4. Valentine (MD Elizabeth F. Garrett 11 issue) and Thomas mentioned above…who I (don’t hold me to this please) SUSPECT may have married Martha Riddle in 1774 in Goochland Co, VA…just a hunch of mine that I tossed in my notes…but given the Gibson and other allied names connections to the Riddle/Ridley’s….it would not suprise me at all.
I did not even have Vashti/Basheeba Cole in my tree and nor did I have her father Levin Cole…if I can procurew a definative connection from Thomas to Thomas to Arch to my Martin then I’ll do so…please give me your thought/opinions on these folks too….and by all means BILL>…chime in and help a girl out Sir!!!
Also perhaps worthy of mention is that there was an Ezekial Gibson who was the son of Valentine Gibson & Elizabeth Frances nee Garrett….and he MD a gal named Rachel Terry and I do not have their CH indexed yet but noted that they did have 11 issue.
One more thing…I have numerous Baldwin’s…but my line connect to my paternal line and were of Quaker descent…originating in VA and PA and moving to OH whereby they MD into my Whitacre/Kelly surnames.
Jinkies….I hope we can sort this crew out and make more connections too…it would be right nice to be able to MERGE a few more ppl! Blessings to all from here to there….keep up the good work~~~~Laurie
Wow Laurie, you have done your homework! The Thomas, Archibald, Martin Gibson info came from another cousin. Her ggggrandfather and mine were brothers (John and Calvin Gibson). I do believe that Thomas’s father was Thomas also; your information is great. To see the names Collins, Riddles etc, makes it very relevent. I will check with Debbie to see if she has anything new. Thanks Laurie for sharing; I can imagine this will be helpful to others as well.
Shirley
Laurie
The Cousin who gave me the info about Arch being Martin’s father emailed me and said, Archibald is not Martin’s father according to long time Archibald researchers. I know she has been trying to find proof of a connection, however it looks as if there is yet another snag. Not much information is found on Martin, some things in Floyd, co. where he is listed as Mulatto, with wife Eleanor White, land grants etc. The dates for Thomas, Arch, Martin, etc all line up (as if they could be father-son-son). Just have to keep smiling and dig some more.
Shirley
BlondeyeLaurie wrote: I show their CH as being: 1. Mary Gibson (MD Moses Riddle, 7 issue) 2. Frances (MD an UNK Hundey/Hundrey, no known issue) 3. John (no known MG or issue) 4. Valentine (MD Elizabeth F. Garrett 11 issue) and Thomas mentioned above…who I (don’t hold me to this please) SUSPECT may have married Martha Riddle in 1774 in Goochland Co, VA…just a hunch of mine that I tossed in my notes…but given the Gibson and other allied names connections to the Riddle/Ridley’s….it would not suprise me at all.
What do you mean by “Moses Riddle, 7 issue”?
Are you saying that Mary Gibson might have had a brother named Thomas who may have married a Martha Riddle? (I am not holding you to this, I just want to clarify what you are suspecting…)
BTW, Blackwater is right there near Kyle’s Ford in Hawkins County (maybe it is Hancock County now…I can’t remember). If you guys and gals ever get the chance, look at topographic maps of the area. I have TOPO CD’s from National Geographic that are awesome…you can see the ridgelines and it is very clear how people travelled and how easy it is to get from Blackwater Church in KY to Kyle’s Ford in TN. It is basically over a ridge or two.
What do you mean by “Moses Riddle, 7 issue”?
Are you saying that Mary Gibson might have had a brother named Thomas who may have married a Martha Riddle? (I am not holding you to this, I just want to clarify what you are suspecting…)
Howdy Rockhound: ) This family is awesomely confusing! LOL…I just love the challenge of trying to sort things out …color me daft or just plain geeky sleuthish but in just the past weekend I have found SOOOOO very much more on thsi family…will post later today after I source everything and do some more comparative census diggign myself….sorry to digress…forgive me….to reply to your Q’s: what I mean is that she married Moses Riddle and they had 7 children (issue was some old world term for that and I catch myself using it as a quick phrase to avoid more letters when typing!) And…yes! Mary had a brother named Thomas, who was born about 1718 and it is purely MY personal suspicion that he may be the same Thomas Gibson who married a gal named Martha Riddle…in all likelihood, she being fromt he same family….we ALL know how oft that happened that sibs would marry into a same surname family because of lifestyle and locale issues of the time.
Thanks so much for clarifying the proximity of the area for me/us….I live in OH and have never jaunted that way much…and I have high hopes of some day doign so but….time and tides will tell as they say! Take great care…keep teh interest and topic at bay…more later today from thsi geeky researcher! Blessings for now~~~~Laurie
Thanks for clearing that up.
If you want to look at maps of the area, simply do a google search for topo maps online or use topozone.com. I have also found that for some reason Mapquest has a lot of little old towns that no longer exist that show up when you search for them…I am not sure where they get the information, but these little towns (sometimes nothing more than a post office from 150 years ago) show up.
I look forward to seeing what you have found. I hope you are referring to the Riddle side…:)
Howdy y’all! *waves* Well…I did some more census and other “digging” and poured ove rmy notes and links…and lo and behodl there actually IS quite a bit of information “out there” on Martin Gibson and his descendants…key word being descendants…there is still quite the mystery as to whom his parents coudl have been…some folks speculate it was a William Gibson who was too “old to be bound out” on certain VA taxables lists…others speculate it may have been a George Gibson who died the very year that Martin was born….and so it goes….it may be right tricky to find out just who his daddy was but….one thing I wanted to mention about the whole melee is that I personally find it most interesting that no one mentions the name Zachariah Gibson as a potential father (or maybe even brother) to Martin (and Susannah, Dicey/Pricey)….his name appears as a next door neighbor to Martin on 2 back to back census records…I think he bears further examination to determine HOW he connects to Martin. The unfortunate thing is that his age by way of a “tick” mark is not able to be seen in either of those census records. The only Zachariah Gibson I have in my tree that comes close in age (and could thus be a potential sibling to Martin, etc) is Zachariah b: 1821 in TN or VA who was the son of Joseph Fisher & Susannah “Sookey” Gibson….I show their CH born in VA/TN between years 1807 and 1830….so it is perhaps somewhat possible that Martin, and Dicey and Susannah (there is THAT name again) could have been their children yes?! Those CH MD into surnames: Gibson, Collins, Mullins & Alsept.
So to recap potential names tossed as teh father of Martin: Archibald, William, Thomas, George, and just maybe some Zachariah??? I wish I knew what place to even look further to see who it could be….any help further would be just greatly appreciated. (hint hint)
I hope I am not being redundant now, but I wanted to post additional information I have on Martin Gibson and his descendants, he being born in 1776 abt…in most likely Orange Co, NC The general consensus seems to be that whoever hsi father was, he passed away in about the same year that Martin was born…there are numerous onlien references to he and his 2 sisters being “bound out”…as such:”Martin Gibson was born abt. 1776, bound out to James Carrington in Orange
County, NC 1784 along with sisters Dicey and Susannah (Susannah chooses
James Carrington).” (Source: located Sept 2006 from PAF @ AWTP: Gibson/Conley/Deal,owner: Suzan Heil)
The above mentioned ancestral file contains extensive notes and sources…Suzan has a wealth of information on this family…her last known email addy is: suzanheil@sbcglobal.net
Her personal notes on Martin Gibson Sr are as follows:
“Source for poss. parentage, located Sept 2006 from PAF @ AWTP: Gibson/Conley/Deal, notes to wit:
In a message dated 5/6/2005 3:05:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sar@bright.net writes:
Sarah,
Thanks and I wonder if Debbie is still on the list. That’s what I was
thinking that they might be children of George who died in 1776, since George and
Thomas were apparently neighbors of James Carrington’s father, John
Carrington. Since Martin went to Wilkes County possibly so did his sister Dicey..
always thought she might be same Dicey as Valentine Collins wife.
Thomas Gibson of __________ to John Bridges of ________________ Co. _______
Deed dated Feb. 10 1770 ___/___ unrecorded or lost Orange Co. deed £ ____
_____ acres on the south side of Flat River near the mouth of Deep Creek, adj.
John Carrington, part of a grant from Earl Granville to Thomas Gibson dated May
2, 1752. Signed: _________ Wit: _______, _______. ?Proven in Orange Co.
court, Feb.-May, 1770 ?. (Sold by John to Thomas Bridges May 25, 1770)
This Martin Gibson is Debbie S. Dehart’s Gibson line. She posted the
following:
My Martin Gibson was born abt. 1776, bound out to James Carrington in Orange
County, NC 1784 along with sisters Dicey and Susannah (Susannah chooses
James Carrington). Later Martin is in Wilkes Co, NC circa 1794-1797, 1802 Russell
Co VA, 1806 Smith Co TN, 1808 Russell Co VA, 1820’s Perry Co, KY, where he
dies abt 1833. His wife is Eleanor?
Martin most likely comes out of the Saponi Gibson’s who come from Orange Co,
VA to Orange Co, NC. Father could be old William who is too old and infirm
to be taxed, or possibly from George who d. 1776 Orange Co, NC. Other children
are named for George, but does not include Martin, Dicey or Susannah on the
lists in Caswell Co, NC. Suggested Next Step:
Search OneWorldTree for:
Gibson, George ?
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This ENDS part1 of my 3 part posting~~~~~~~~~Laurie
To continue:
DO previous posting source: “Valentine Collins was a member of the Stoney Creek Church around 1800 and
removed to Newman’s Ridge for a short time before removing to Kentucky.
He is listed on the 1820 and 1830 Floyd County census and had land in
Morgan County. He is listed as a neighbor of Martin Gibson who had a
sister, Dicey, who is likely the wife of Valentine. These Collins’ and
Gibsons intermarried with theCole, Perkins, Nichols, Fletchers (and
other) families and are the ‘core’ ofthe Magoffin County ‘Brown People’
and the Carmel Indians.
Kentucky
• 1820Floyd County, Kentucky Census
There were ten Collins families on the 1820 census. Valentine, Bradley,
and Meredith were the only Collins’ listed as FPC. Adam Burchfield was
living between Valentine and Martin Gibson. Martin Gibson is thought to
be the same Martin Gibson born about 1776 in Orange Co, North Carolina.
He was bound to James Carrington in 1784 along with sisters Dicey and
Susannah. Dicey may be the wife of Valentine Collins.
• 1830 Floyd County,Kentucky census Valentine Collins is living next
door to William Cole who isreported to have married Obediah (Biddy)
Collins, daughter of Valentine.
• Collins, Valentine
Acres: 100 Book: F-2
Survey Date: 10- 1-1833
County: Morgan
WaterCourse: Newcomb Fk Page:
Township: Range:
Reference: THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1Part 1 page 512
• 1844 2nd Sat Jul 13th; Met at meeting house. Bro. Samuel Smith, Mo
give Bro. Valentine Collins and Sister Dicy Collins their letters of
dismission.
STONE COAL CHURCH MINUTES. Part Four” (Contributed by Fred Vanderpool,
Hippo, KY) in The Journal of the MAGOFFIN COUNTYHISTORICAL SOCIETY, Vol.
23, Summer 2001, No. 2, page 57.
• Joshua Collins— Age 48 Parents: Valentine and Dicy Collins
BornTennessee and died in Johnson County, Kentucky on 1 Feb 54.
My Martin Gibson was born abt. 1776, bound out to James Carrington in
Orange County, NC 1784 along with sisters Dicey and Susannah (Susannah
chooses James Carrington). Later Martin is in Wilkes Co, NC circa
1794-1797, 1802 Russell Co VA, 1806 Smith Co TN, 1808 Russell Co VA,
1820’s Perry Co, KY, where he dies abt 1833. His wife is Eleanor?
Martin’s children immigrate to Tazewell Co, VA shortly after his death,
in the area that becomes Buchanan Co, VA, some years later go into
different counties of West Virginia. I have all but one son figured out.
Martin’s parents remain unknown although it is suspected to be old
William Gibson of Orange Co, NC who is too old to be taxed during the
revolution.
Martin Gibson
to / Deed
JamesHogg
This Indenture made & entered into this 21st day of April 1831, between
Martin Gibson of the one part and James Hogg of the other part,
Witnesseththat the said Gibson having heretofore sold the following
tract of land & in consideration of one dollar hath this day granted,
baargained & sold and by these presents doth grant bargain & sell unto
said James Hogg a certain tract or parcel of land in Perry Coounty on
Kings creek containing One Hundred Acres, being the same on shich Elijah
Bowman formerly resided & the same on which the said Gibson
now resides, which was patented in the name of said Gibson.
Legal jarrgon——————–
In testimony whereof the said Gibson hath here unto set his hand & seal
this day and date above written.
Martin Gibson
Commomweath of Kentucky
Perry County to/wit
Jesse Combs, Clk
Martin most likely comes out of the Saponi Gibson’s who come from Orange
Co, VA to Orange Co, NC. Father could be old William who is too old and
infirm to be taxed, or possibly from George who d. 1776 Orange Co, NC.
Other children are named for George, but does not include Martin, Dicey
or Susannah on the lists in Caswell Co, NC.
1820 census Pulaski Co Kentucky
Gibson, Martin
1 1 0 0 1 0 3 1 0 1
3 0 0 0 1 0 1 1
1820 Floyd Co., KY census the Martin Gibson household is a FCP family as
is the W
Father: George ? GIBSON
Suggested Next Step:
Gibson, Martin
Marriage 1 Eleanor UNKNOWN b: ABT 1781 in Kentucky
Children
Martin GIBSON b: ABT 1809 in Kentucky
Enoch GIBSON b: ABT 1810 in Virginia
Andrew GIBSON b: ABT 1812 in Kentucky
Joel GIBSON b: ABT 1813 in Kentucky
William GIBSON b: NOV 1814 in Kentucky or Virginia
Henry GIBSON b: ABT 1821 in Kentucky
Nancy Ann GIBSON b: ABT 1821 in Kentucky
Matilda Tilda GIBSON b: ABT 1830 in Strange Creek Unknown location Kentucky
Ellenor Nelly GIBSON b: MAR 1832 in Kentucky
Sarah Sally GIBSON b: 14 DEC 1837
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*Note: some of these notes, and others I initially located at a Melungeons link and a goodly amount of it was sourced and cited by Jack Goins as well (which I will post shortly.)
In addition to the above mentioned children for Martin & Eleanor , I have also seen reference to another son being George…BUT there appears to be some confusion as to which George was his son OR/& who this son George may have married, to wit:
some researcher believe that his BROTHER George is the one who MD Mary Polly Daniel and that Martin’s SON George married as such:
Marriage 1 Rachel UNKNOWN b: MAR 1816 in Virginia
Children
James E GIBSON b: APR 1850 in Virginia
William L GIBSON b: ABT 1855
Matilda GIBSON b: 1859
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Personal census notes to wit:
George Gibson
Spouse: Mary Polly Daniel
Parents: Martin Gibson , Eleanor Nelly Gibson
Birth Place: Perry County, KY
Birth Date: 1813
Marriage Place: Perry County, KY
Marriage Date: 24 November 1831
Death Place: Buchanan County, VA
Death Date: 10 May 1862
1870 census Putman Co
#53 household
1870 census Putman County WVA Union Dist
Conley, A.J. age 31 Farmer Virginia $100.00 Can not read/write
Melvina age 20 Keep hse Virginia ” “
Elizabeth A age 2 WVA
Nancy age 50 Virginia (mother) ” “
William age 14 Virginia (brother)
Parish age 12 Virginia (brother)
Sarah age 10 Virginia attending school (sister)
Harvey age 8 Virginia attending school (brother)
#52 household
Gibson, George age 60 Farmer Virginia
Rachel age 52 Virginia
James E age 19 Virginia
William L age 15 att sch Virginia
Matelia age 11 att sch Virginia
Deal Matelda age 3 Virginia
#51
Gibson, Richard age 31 Farmer Virginia
Matilda age 29 Virginia
John B age 6 att sch WVA
Jermemiah age 2 WVA
Harvey age 6/12 WVA
#50
Gibson, Jermiah age 32 Farmer KY
Cynitha age 31 Virginia
Matilda age 10 Virginia
George F age 6 WVA
James age 4 WVA
Sarah age 2 WVA
Mitchell, Hirman age 25 Farm Laborer
#54
Gibson, Mendy age 25 Farmer Virginia
Sarah J age 12 keep hse Virginia
Silas age 1
*Note: it is possible that George first MD Mary Polly Daniel and then MD Rachel UNK and had CH in the 1850’s.
END of Part2 of 3~~Laurie
Moving on down the tree to Martin Sr.’s CH:
Martin Jr. MD Matilda Davis in 1833 and they had 11 issue…notes re: Martin Jr. include:
Source: for EXT notes rec. Sept 2006 from PAF @ AWTP, URL: http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3137559&id=I0091
Author: Suzan Heil, email: suzanheil@sbcglobal.net
Notes to wit:
“Dicy Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1838 Virginia
Geo E Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1840 Virginia
Levi Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1842 Virginia
Alexr Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1843 Virginia
Rachel Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1844 Virginia
Joel Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1846 Virginia
Elenor Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1782 Virginia with below
Andr Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1812 Kentucky
Aler Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1823 Kentucky
Willy Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1823 Virginia
Nosh Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1836 Virginia
Polly Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1838 Virginia
Noah Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1840 Virginia
Alexr Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1844 Virginia
Martin Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1846 Virginia
Wm Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1844 Virginia
Martin Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1809 Virginia
Matilda Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1823 Kentucky
Esquira Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1835 Virginia
James Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1838 Virginia
Sally Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1841 Virginia
Lifa Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1843 Virginia
Isaac Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1846 Virginia
Kissia Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1848 Virginia
Wm Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1819 Kentucky
Patsy Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1820 Virginia
Joel Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1838 Virginia
Matilda Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1840 Virginia
Rebecca Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1842 Virginia
Betsy Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1844 Virginia
Louisa Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1846 Virginia
Jno Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1841 Virginia
Enoch Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1810 Virginia
Sally Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1814 Virginia
Jno Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1831 Virginia
Back Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1832 Virginia
Wm Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1835 Virginia
Jane Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1837 Virginia
Nancy Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1840 Virginia
Luria Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1842 Virginia
E J Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1842 Virginia
Saml j Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1814 Virginia
Peggy Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1821 Virginia
Alexr f Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1839 Virginia
Rees Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1843 Virginia
Jackson Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1845 Virginia
Edw Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1847 Virginia
Chas Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1845 Virginia
Wesley Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1816 Virginia
Catherine Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1813 Virginia
Ed R Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1840 Virginia
Soml s Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1847 Virginia
Wm B Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1845 Virginia
Mary J Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1834 Virginia
Geo Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1810 Virginia
Polly Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1812 Virginia
Jno Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1834 Virginia
Margaret Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1836 Virginia
Huldz Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1838 Virginia
Wirinda Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1842 Virginia
Dulcona Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1842 Virginia
Calvin Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1846 Virginia
Jas F Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1839 Virginia
Joel Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1813 Kentucky
Rachel Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1820 Virginia
Jeremiah Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1838 Virginia
Richd Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1840 Virginia
Cynthia Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1843 Virginia
Ornnelly Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1845 Virginia
Jos E Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1843 Virginia
Owen Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1805 Tennessee
Sarah Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1810 Tennessee
Peggy Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1828 Kentucky
Polly Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1830 Kentucky
Jas Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1835 Kentucky
May A Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1838 Kentucky
Wm Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1844 Kentucky
Jessee Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1848 Virginia
Henry Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1823 Kentucky
Cynthia Gibson Western District, Tazewell, VA abt 1823 Virginia
Home in 1870
(City, County, State) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Race Gender View Image Save This
John H Ashbey Harper, Roane, WV abt 1860 West Virginia White Male
Nancy Ashbey Harper, Roane, WV abt 1824 Virginia White Female
Nancy A Ashbey Harper, Roane, WV abt 1863 West Virginia White Female
Thos Ashbey Harper, Roane, WV abt 1831 Virginia White Male
Thos B Ashbey Harper, Roane, WV abt 1857 West Virginia White Male
C S Casey Harper, Roane, WV abt 1850 West Virginia White Male
Mary J Casey Harper, Roane, WV abt 1849 West Virginia White Female
Beny Davis Harper, Roane, WV abt 1847 Kentucky White Male
Lilburn Davis Harper, Roane, WV abt 1869 West Virginia White Male
Louisa J Davis Harper, Roane, WV abt 1850 Virginia White Female
Joshua Ferrell Harper, Roane, WV abt 1860 West Virginia White Male
Wm Ferrell Harper, Roane, WV abt 1817 Virginia White Male
Alend Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1847 Virginia White Male
Alice A Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1869 West Virginia White Female
Celia Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1857 West Virginia White Female
Clarinda Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1855 West Virginia White Female
Elizabeth Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1845 Virginia White Female
Elizabeth M Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1860 West Virginia White Female
Keriah Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1850 West Virginia White Female
Lytha Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1848 West Virginia White Female
Martine Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1810 Virginia White Male
Mary J Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1852 West Virginia White Female
Matilda Gibson Harper, Roane, WV abt 1818 West Virginia White Female
Cathrine Goff Harper, Roane, WV abt 1846 Virginia White Female
G W Goff Harper, Roane, WV abt 1849 Virginia White Male
John D Goff Harper, Roane, WV abt 1866 Virginia White Male
Margaret A Goff Harper, Roane, WV abt 1869 Virginia White Female
C Hackney Harper, Roane, WV abt 1868 West Virginia White Female
Joshua Hackney Harper, Roane, WV abt 1869 West Virginia White Male
N A Hackney Harper, Roane, WV abt 1803 Virginia White Female
D Hamon Harper, Roane, WV abt 1846 West Virginia White Male
Sarah Hamon Harper, Roane, WV abt 1845 Virginia White Female
Virginia A Hamon Harper, Roane, WV abt 1869 West Virginia White Female
C Harper Harper, Roane, WV abt 1826 West Virginia White Female
Michell Harper Harper, Roane, WV abt 1860 West Virginia White Male
Albert Mackney Harper, Roane, WV abt 1847 Virginia White Male
Sarah C Mackney Harper, Roane, WV abt 1843 Virginia White Female
M J Shaver Harper, Roane, WV abt 1857 Virginia White Female
Reriah Walford Harper, Roane, WV abt 1861 West Virginia White Female
S Walford Harper, Roane, WV abt 1858 West Virginia White Male
Name Home in 1860
(City,County,State) Age in 1860 Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Gender View Image Save This
Martin Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 32 1827 Male
Matilda Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 42 1817 Female
Cyertha Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 15 1844 Female
Nisa Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 11 1848 Female
Isaiah Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 10 1849 Male
Mary Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 7 1852 Female
Clarinda Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 4 1855 Female
Celie Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 3 1856 Female
John Wolford Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 21 1838 Male
Sarah Wolford Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 18 1841 Female
Martin Gibson, Jr. with his father Martin Gibson, Sr. and his brother Joel Gibson on it. She had Martin Gibson, Sr.’s death before 1833.
Pike Co. KY Marriage Bonds1822-1865 By Clyde Runyon
File No. 353 Liscense Issued June 29, 1833 by John D. Mims, Clk. for marriage of Martin Gibson, Jr. and Matilda Davis. Clerk certified that “Martin Gibson produced the necessary Certificate from Sarah Davis mother of Matilda Davis”. Bond signed by Martin Gibson, Jr. and Martin Gibson, Sr. (by their marks).
GRRRRRRRRR……..sorry…part 4 incoming!~~~~~Laurie
(Sorry folks…but I lied *shrinks* there are now 4 PARTS to this posting…beat me later.)
To finalize:
Source: DO from previosu posting:
Letter: “To the clerk of Pike County Court
Sir
This is to authorise you to isue marriage licens for Martin Gibson and my daughter Matilda to marry.
Given under my hand this 19th day of June 1833.
Sarah (or Sarry?) Davys
Att:
Martin Gibson
Joel Gibson
Married July 6, 1833 by Ferrell Evins JPC.
Tazewell County, Virginia
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Compiled Tazewell Co. Birth Index
Last updated on June 7, 2002
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Enoch b: 1810 MD Sally UNK and they had issue : 7 CH.
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Andrew b: 1812…no known MG or issue
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Joel b: 1813 MD Rachel Deal, issue: 6 CH.
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Nancy Ann b: abt 1821 MD James Conley issue 10 CH.
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Henry b: 1823 MD Cynthia Deal, issue 8 CH.
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William b: 1824 MD 3x: 1. Ruby UNK, no issue
2. Hannah UNK, issue 7 CH
3. Martha Jane Bartley issue 15 CH (eek!)
Notes for William as such:
Source: located Sept 2006 from PAF @ AWTP of (owner) : Suzan Heil email: suzanheil@sbcglobal.net
Personal notes to wit:
“Marriage Bonds of Pike County Kentucky
File # 1587 License issued December 3, 1860 by John W. Emmert Clerk for marriage of William Gibson and Martha Bartley. Married December 5, 1860 at Jessee Bartley of Pike County in presence of James W. Sykes & James Nickels by Jessee Bartley JPPC.
1850 Tazewell Co Virginia
#1005
William Gibson 31 Kentucky
Patsy 30 Virginia
Joel 12
Matilda 10
Rebecca 8
Betsy (Elizabeth) 6
Lanina 4
Ino 9 months
1860 Buchanan County Virginia
Gibson, William 45 Farmer $26.00 KY
Gibson, Martha 40 KY Illiterate
Gibson, Rebecca 18 KY
Gibson, Elizabeth 16 KY
Gibson, Lewis 9 KY
Gibson, John 8 KY
Gibson, Isam 6
Gibson, Jacob 3
Gibson, Mary 2
Home in 1860
(City,County,State) Age in 1860 Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Gender View Image Save This
William Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 45 1814 Kentucky Male
Martha Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 40 1819 Virginia Female
Rebecca Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 18 1841 Female
Elizabeth Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 16 1843 Female
Lewis Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 9 1850 Male
John Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 8 1851 Male
Isam Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 6 1853 Male
Solomon Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 5 1854 Male
Jacob Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 3 1856 Male
Mary Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 2 1857 Female
1870 Kanawha County # 269/269 Cabin Creek last name is listed as Gepsan
Gibson, William 60 Laborer VA
Patsy54
Joel 40 All children state now WVA
Matilda 38
Rebecca 35
Lewis 33
John 31
Isam 29
Salman 27 I think this is Solomon
Mary 25
Jacob 23
George 21
Eli 12
Charles 10
Mary 8
Henry 6
William 4
1870 Kanawha County # 269/269
***Gibson, William 60 Laborer VA 1860 listed as 45 difference of 15 years
Patsy 54
Joel 40
Matilda 38
Rebecca 35 1860 18 years 7 years
Lewis 33 1860 9 years 14 years
John 31 1860 8 years 13 years
Isam 29 1860 6 years 13 years
Salman 27 I think this is Solomon
Mary 25 1860 2 years 13 years
Jacob 23 1860 3 years 10 years
George 21
Eli 12
Charles 10
Mary 8
Henry 6
William 4
Death record Kanawha County
William Gipson white male died April 15, 1874 due to fever, 50 years 6 months parents Martin and Ellen Gipson born Kentucky, Farmer married. J. Cooke neighbor gave info
Marriage records
AARON WALDON MARY E. GIPSON 13 Feb 1873 Fayette WV
HANEY GIPSON MARTHA D. FISHER 7 May 1873 Fayette WV
JOHN GIBSON EVELINE BASHAM 3 Dec 1877 Fayette WV
J. S. HEDRICK EMMA J. GIBSON 4 Jul 1883 Fayette WV
SOLOMON GIBSON MIRIAM ROBINSO 8 Jun 1884 Fayette WV
JONES ADKINS MARY GIPSON 18 Sep 1869 Fayette WV
GIBSON’S MARRIAGES PIKE CO KY
The following marriages maybe 1st, 2nd, and poss. 3rd marriages.
Pike Co. KY marriages from book Pioneer Families of Eastern & Southeastern Kentucky by William C. Kozee:
GIBSON Males:
David m Sylvia Bolling Mar. 26, 1857
Elijah m. Nancy McGee Feb. 26, 1824
Elijah m Delilah Smith March 15, 1845
Elijah m Evaline Slone Sept. 03, 1849 (?)
Ison m Evaline Slone Sept. 03, 1849 (?)
Ison m Margaret Jane Burk Aug. 04, 1854
James m Evaline Gibson Nov. 26, 1860 (was she Nee: Slone?) Joel m Polly Spears May 20, 1829
Joel m Rhoda Raynes Aug. 10, 1865
John m Polly Blanton Oct. 04, 1825
John m. Tazzy Bailey Feb. 16, 1855
John W. m Polly Ann Morgan Aug. 12, 1850
Martin, Jr. m Matilda Davis July 06, 1833
Robert m Elizabeth Moore March 29, 1832
Thomas Gibson m Susan Bartley Nov 26, 1860
William m Martha Bartley Dec. 05, 1860
Zachariah Gibson m Elizabeth Mc Gee (mo. & date blank) 1822
GIBSON Females:
Causby m Riley Sweeney May 29, 1859
Elizabeth m Hiram Hylton June 01, 1860 (was she Nee: Mc Gee or Moore?)
Juda m David Francis Oct. 04, 1836
Mary m Turner Branham Nov. 23, 1826
Spicy m William Morgan Oct. 07, 1854
Gibson deaths Fayette CO
Gibson, Cordelia; Oct 18744; 5 mo (Fay Co) par GI & Louisa Gibson; rpt GI Gibson father
Gibson, G I ; May 4 1885; 63 yr (VA) no parents listed rpt AP Gibson, son
Gibson, Landa O; Jan 14 1897 5 yr; par JL 7 Mary Gibson; rpt ML Gibson, Gather
Gibson, Louisa ; Jul 15 1889; 1 yr (Fay Co) par JW & Nancy Gibson; rpt Nancy Gibson, mother
Gibson, Lundy O; Feb 14 1898; 8 yr; par JL & MF Gibson; rpt JL Gibson father
Gibson, Nancy; Oct 27 1889; 28yr (Fay Co) par Ellen & John Gibson; rpt by husband
Gibson, Sarah L; Nov 27 1896; 10 yr; par John & Mary Gibson; rpt Mary Gibson mother
Gipson, -; Apr 12 1887 1 day (Fay Co)par H & MD Gipson; rpt Harvey Gipson, Father
Gipson, Grover; Apr 1 1890; 1 yr (Fay Co) par Harvey & Martha Gipson; rpt Martha Gipson, Mother
Gipson, Wm; May 7 1890 16 yr (fay co) par Harvey & Martha Gipson; rpt Martha Gipson, mother
Gibson, Clarinda; june 171889; 7 mo (WVA)
Gibson, Maggie; June 5 1897; 3 mo (handley)
Gibson, Simon; Apr 16 1891; 2 yr (WVA)
Gibson, Wm H; May 7 1890; 16 yr
Company B – Captain Gordon W. Rife’s Company (Previously Company F(2), 21st Battalion, Infantry and for a short time Company F(1), 64th Virginia Infantry). This company was formed, at an undetermined date, primarily from residents of Buchanan County. Gordon Rife previously served in the 34th Battalion Virignia Cavalry, and was obstensably detailed to gather deserters from that unit when he organized this company. Several men who served under Rife were deserters from the 34th, and its enigmatic leader, Vincent A. Witcher.
Officers were:
Gordon W. Rife, Captain
Jeremiah Gibson, 1st Lieutenant
John W. Wolhford, 2nd Lieutenant
Berry Compton, 2nd Lieutenant
Alfred Breeding, 2nd Lieutenant – Killed in Action”
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Sarah Sally b: 1827 MD Conley Deal issue: 5 CH.
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Matilda “Tilda” b: 1830 MD Thomas Deal, issue: 12 CH.
Notes for her as such:
“Decended from the prominent Melungeon Gibson’s who were pioneer settlers
of K entucky and North Carolina. The family moved to Clay Co WV about 1854
but mov ed back to Buchanan Co Va before 1860. After the civil war they
returned to C lay CoWV and are found in the 1870 and 1880 Clay Co WV
cenus. No two records agree on the year of birth for either Thomas or
Matilda, with Thomas ranging between about 1819 and 1827, Matilda’s
recorded ages would put her nirth betw een about 1825 and 1835. Because of
the marriage date it would seem that neit her Thomas nor Matilda were
likely to have been born later than 1819.”
Per: Michael Henline; source located Sept 2006 from PAF @ AWTP: The Deels, etc.
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Ellenor/ Nelly/ Ellen b: 1832 MD Richard Deal, issue: 11 CH.
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Perhaps one of the most wonderful “finds” was one I located months ago when researching a great grand niece of Martins Gibson Sr.’s: her name was George Ann Gibson…and Jack Goins, prominent Melungeon researcher linked me to a page of his that had some pics of her….that link can be found at URL:
http://jgoins.com/kit_11280.htm
It is a very neat and informative linky loo….and the pics at the bottom of the page are in my mind, just TREASURES! I highly recommend reading it in it’s entirety and co-linking to Jack’s other pages and doing likewise. His research speaks volumes re: our “Melungeon” /Saponi/Cherokee/Brown People/Carmel Indians! We *may* not all *agree* with “everything Melungeon” BUT…there is much much to learn from the core Melungeon research/ers.
Sorry to be so dern “wordy” and take up so dern much message board space…but there is plenty to post anon! Blessings from here to there…wherever all y’all are! ~~~~~~~~~~~Laurie
Laurie,
It s funny you should mention Debbie, for she is the cousin I have gotten most of my Martin info from, Our 3xgrandfather’s were brothers (John & Calvin). I find it interesting that George Gibson could have been Martin’s father, as Martin’s son George (could be named after grandfather?) is my 4xgrandfather. I applaud you for all this welcome information Laurie, thanks. I will dig around for George Gibson and see what I can find and yes, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Shirley
To add to your second about Floyd Co. KY, Martin’s son George was b. in Perry, KY 1813 and m. Mary Polly Daniel in Floyd, Co.
BlondeyeLaurie wrote: Howdy y’all! *waves* Well…I did some more census and other “digging” and poured ove rmy notes and links…and lo and behodl there actually IS quite a bit of information “out there” on Martin Gibson and his descendants…key word being descendants…there is still quite the mystery as to whom his parents coudl have been…some folks speculate it was a William Gibson who was too “old to be bound out” on certain VA taxables lists…others speculate it may have been a George Gibson who died the very year that Martin was born….and so it goes….it may be right tricky to find out just who his daddy was but….one thing I wanted to mention about the whole melee is that I personally find it most interesting that no one mentions the name Zachariah Gibson as a potential father (or maybe even brother) to Martin (and Susannah, Dicey/Pricey)….his name appears as a next door neighbor to Martin on 2 back to back census records…I think he bears further examination to determine HOW he connects to Martin. The unfortunate thing is that his age by way of a “tick” mark is not able to be seen in either of those census records. The only Zachariah Gibson I have in my tree that comes close in age (and could thus be a potential sibling to Martin, etc) is Zachariah b: 1821 in TN or VA who was the son of Joseph Fisher & Susannah “Sookey” Gibson….I show their CH born in VA/TN between years 1807 and 1830….so it is perhaps somewhat possible that Martin, and Dicey and Susannah (there is THAT name again) could have been their children yes?! Those CH MD into surnames: Gibson, Collins, Mullins & Alsept.
So to recap potential names tossed as teh father of Martin: Archibald, William, Thomas, George, and just maybe some Zachariah??? I wish I knew what place to even look further to see who it could be….any help further would be just greatly appreciated. (hint hint)
I hope I am not being redundant now, but I wanted to post additional information I have on Martin Gibson and his descendants, he being born in 1776 abt…in most likely Orange Co, NC The general consensus seems to be that whoever hsi father was, he passed away in about the same year that Martin was born…there are numerous onlien references to he and his 2 sisters being “bound out”…as such:”Martin Gibson was born abt. 1776, bound out to James Carrington in Orange
County, NC 1784 along with sisters Dicey and Susannah (Susannah chooses
James Carrington).” (Source: located Sept 2006 from PAF @ AWTP: Gibson/Conley/Deal,owner: Suzan Heil)
The above mentioned ancestral file contains extensive notes and sources…Suzan has a wealth of information on this family…her last known email addy is: suzanheil@sbcglobal.net
Her personal notes on Martin Gibson Sr are as follows:
“Source for poss. parentage, located Sept 2006 from PAF @ AWTP: Gibson/Conley/Deal, notes to wit:
In a message dated 5/6/2005 3:05:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sar@bright.net writes:
Sarah,
Thanks and I wonder if Debbie is still on the list. That’s what I was
thinking that they might be children of George who died in 1776, since George and
Thomas were apparently neighbors of James Carrington’s father, John
Carrington. Since Martin went to Wilkes County possibly so did his sister Dicey..
always thought she might be same Dicey as Valentine Collins wife.
Thomas Gibson of __________ to John Bridges of ________________ Co. _______
Deed dated Feb. 10 1770 ___/___ unrecorded or lost Orange Co. deed £ ____
_____ acres on the south side of Flat River near the mouth of Deep Creek, adj.
John Carrington, part of a grant from Earl Granville to Thomas Gibson dated May
2, 1752. Signed: _________ Wit: _______, _______. ?Proven in Orange Co.
court, Feb.-May, 1770 ?. (Sold by John to Thomas Bridges May 25, 1770)
This Martin Gibson is Debbie S. Dehart’s Gibson line. She posted the
following:
My Martin Gibson was born abt. 1776, bound out to James Carrington in Orange
County, NC 1784 along with sisters Dicey and Susannah (Susannah chooses
James Carrington). Later Martin is in Wilkes Co, NC circa 1794-1797, 1802 Russell
Co VA, 1806 Smith Co TN, 1808 Russell Co VA, 1820’s Perry Co, KY, where he
dies abt 1833. His wife is Eleanor?
Martin most likely comes out of the Saponi Gibson’s who come from Orange Co,
VA to Orange Co, NC. Father could be old William who is too old and infirm
to be taxed, or possibly from George who d. 1776 Orange Co, NC. Other children
are named for George, but does not include Martin, Dicey or Susannah on the
lists in Caswell Co, NC. Suggested Next Step:
Search OneWorldTree for:
Gibson, George ?
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This ENDS part1 of my 3 part posting~~~~~~~~~Laurie
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