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Thought I would post the 1860 Buchanan Co. census, as many of the surnames listed above are within. My Gibson, Baldwin, Adkins, Anderson, Hackney etc.. as well as those Laurie has above, such as Davis, Conley, Deel, Mullins and Nickles. In addition, I have seen many of the surnames listed on the census posted on this site. It seems you can follow these families from NC to KY to VA…
http://www.silvermaple.net/buchanan/bucen2.html
Shirley
Bill Childs wrote: 1787 Henry Co., Va – Tax List “B”
(Based on the people on this section of the list, this would have been an area just north of Stokes/Surry Co’s NC, and by 1790 many of these families were living in Wilkes/Stokes/Surry Co’s NC)
4/21/1787
Archaball GIPSON
0 white males 16 to 21.
0 blacks above 16.
1 black under 16.
4 horses, mares, colts & mules.
8 cattle.
Archibald would have been about 28 or 29, so would not have met any of the above criteria except as Head of Family.
(Rowland Chiles was his next door neighbor)
(There is a possibility that we are missing a generation of Gibsons and it would then look like this:
Archabald/Thomas jr/Thomas Gibson, prob. the Thomas of 1740s Orange Co., Va
or this:
Archabald/Archabald Sr/Thomas of Orange Co)
The only COLE listed for 1787 Henry County is
Walter King COLE, a Doctor, visited on 6/5/1787 and listed on Tax List “A”
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1790 Wilkes Co., NC Census, 10th Company:
Column headings:
Free white males of 16 yrs and upwards.
Free white males under 16 yrs.
Free white females.
All other free persons.
Slaves.
(Only one of the last two columns were listed)
Page 123:
Arche GIBSON……1, 1, 9, 0.
Joel GIBSON………1, 0, 1, 0.
Ezek’l GIBSON……1, 0, 0, 0.
Jordan GIBSON…..1, 3, 1, 0.
Lenord (?) COLE…1, 2, 3, 0.
Vol COLLINS……….1, 0, 2, 0.
Ambrous COLLINS.1, 1, 2, 0.
George COLLINS…1, 2, 4, 0.
Jo NICOLS………….1, 2, 3, 0.
Jesse BOLIN……….1, 3, 3, 0.
Martin COLLINS…..1, 3, 4, 0.
David COLLINS……3, 2, 6, 0.
Dorothy GIPSON….2, 2, 2, 0.
Elisha BALDIN……..2, 4, 4, 0. (this is your BALDWIN line)
Thom. BANGE………1, 4, 4, 0.
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In 1799, Ashe County was created from a part of Wilkes Co., NC
1800 Ashe Co., NC Census; Morgan Twp, p.78, ennumerated as “All Other Free Persons” :
Arch’d GIBSON; 7 O.F.
Ezekiel GIBSON; 3 O.F.
Joel GIBSON; 2 O.F.
Judging from their their position on this census list, the following families lived in the same area:
Vadery (Vardy) COLLINS; 4 Other Free.
Valentine COLLINS; 6 O.F.
Ambrose COLLINS; 4 O.F.
Benjamin GRIMES; 1 O.F.
Andrew GIBSON; 7 O.F.
Stephen REID; 6 O.F.
James REID; 6 O.F.
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Everyone went flying off in all different directions after 1800 and I’m still trying to piece it together, but here is an overview:
1810 Floyd Co., Ky census; p.99:
Archibald Gibson (26 to 44 yrs old – maybe yours if he’s over 45)
Ezekiel Gibson (over 45)
1810 Wayne Co., Ky census; p.362:
Arch’d Gibson (16 to 25)
George Gibson ((26 to 44)
1810 Pulaski Co., Ky census; p.148:
John Gibson (over 45 yrs old)
MARTIN GIBSON (16 to 25)
William Gibson (over 45)
1810 Clay Co., Ky census; p.150:
William Gibson (over 45)
From the listed age ranges, you can appreciate the challenge.
More later,
Bill
Bill,
Sometimes I go through all this information so quickly, I miss what could be an answer; I am refering to Martin Gibson’s father.
We know from Carlson’s dissertation, Martin was closely linked with Valentine Tiny Collins group.
A few of his boy’s names are Andrew, Martin, George (mine), and I believe Joel.
In the 1800 Ashe county census you list above, you listed a group living close together. This group:
Vadery (Vardy) COLLINS; 4 Other Free.
Valentine COLLINS; 6 O.F.
Ambrose COLLINS; 4 O.F.
Benjamin GRIMES; 1 O.F.
Andrew GIBSON; 7 O.F.
Stephen REID; 6 O.F.
James REID; 6 O.F.
The only Gibson living near Valentine (assuming this is a longstanding relationship) is Andrew. And being Martin named one of his children Andrew, which it was common to name one’s child after one’s self.
What do you think? Am I losin’ it?:)
Shirley
BlondeyeLaurie wrote: To continue:
DO previous posting source: “Valentine Collins was a member of the Stoney Creek Church around 1800 and
removed to Newman’s Ridge for a short time before removing to Kentucky.
He is listed on the 1820 and 1830 Floyd County census and had land in
Morgan County. He is listed as a neighbor of Martin Gibson who had a
sister, Dicey, who is likely the wife of Valentine. These Collins’ and
Gibsons intermarried with theCole, Perkins, Nichols, Fletchers (and
other) families and are the ‘core’ ofthe Magoffin County ‘Brown People’
and the Carmel Indians.
Kentucky
• 1820Floyd County, Kentucky Census
There were ten Collins families on the 1820 census. Valentine, Bradley,
and Meredith were the only Collins’ listed as FPC. Adam Burchfield was
living between Valentine and Martin Gibson. Martin Gibson is thought to
be the same Martin Gibson born about 1776 in Orange Co, North Carolina.
He was bound to James Carrington in 1784 along with sisters Dicey and
Susannah. Dicey may be the wife of Valentine Collins.
• 1830 Floyd County,Kentucky census Valentine Collins is living next
door to William Cole who isreported to have married Obediah (Biddy)
Collins, daughter of Valentine.
• Collins, Valentine
Acres: 100 Book: F-2
Survey Date: 10- 1-1833
County: Morgan
WaterCourse: Newcomb Fk Page:
Township: Range:
Reference: THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1Part 1 page 512
• 1844 2nd Sat Jul 13th; Met at meeting house. Bro. Samuel Smith, Mo
give Bro. Valentine Collins and Sister Dicy Collins their letters of
dismission.
STONE COAL CHURCH MINUTES. Part Four” (Contributed by Fred Vanderpool,
Hippo, KY) in The Journal of the MAGOFFIN COUNTYHISTORICAL SOCIETY, Vol.
23, Summer 2001, No. 2, page 57.
• Joshua Collins— Age 48 Parents: Valentine and Dicy Collins
BornTennessee and died in Johnson County, Kentucky on 1 Feb 54.
My Martin Gibson was born abt. 1776, bound out to James Carrington in
Orange County, NC 1784 along with sisters Dicey and Susannah (Susannah
chooses James Carrington). Later Martin is in Wilkes Co, NC circa
1794-1797, 1802 Russell Co VA, 1806 Smith Co TN, 1808 Russell Co VA,
1820’s Perry Co, KY, where he dies abt 1833. His wife is Eleanor?
Martin’s children immigrate to Tazewell Co, VA shortly after his death,
in the area that becomes Buchanan Co, VA, some years later go into
different counties of West Virginia. I have all but one son figured out.
Martin’s parents remain unknown although it is suspected to be old
William Gibson of Orange Co, NC who is too old to be taxed during the
revolution.
Martin Gibson
to / Deed
JamesHogg
This Indenture made & entered into this 21st day of April 1831, between
Martin Gibson of the one part and James Hogg of the other part,
Witnesseththat the said Gibson having heretofore sold the following
tract of land & in consideration of one dollar hath this day granted,
baargained & sold and by these presents doth grant bargain & sell unto
said James Hogg a certain tract or parcel of land in Perry Coounty on
Kings creek containing One Hundred Acres, being the same on shich Elijah
Bowman formerly resided & the same on which the said Gibson
now resides, which was patented in the name of said Gibson.
Legal jarrgon——————–
In testimony whereof the said Gibson hath here unto set his hand & seal
this day and date above written.
Martin Gibson
Commomweath of Kentucky
Perry County to/wit
Jesse Combs, Clk
Martin most likely comes out of the Saponi Gibson’s who come from Orange
Co, VA to Orange Co, NC. Father could be old William who is too old and
infirm to be taxed, or possibly from George who d. 1776 Orange Co, NC.
Other children are named for George, but does not include Martin, Dicey
or Susannah on the lists in Caswell Co, NC.
1820 census Pulaski Co Kentucky
Gibson, Martin
1 1 0 0 1 0 3 1 0 1
3 0 0 0 1 0 1 1
1820 Floyd Co., KY census the Martin Gibson household is a FCP family as
is the W
Father: George ? GIBSON
Suggested Next Step:
Gibson, Martin
Marriage 1 Eleanor UNKNOWN b: ABT 1781 in Kentucky
Children
Martin GIBSON b: ABT 1809 in Kentucky
Enoch GIBSON b: ABT 1810 in Virginia
Andrew GIBSON b: ABT 1812 in Kentucky
Joel GIBSON b: ABT 1813 in Kentucky
William GIBSON b: NOV 1814 in Kentucky or Virginia
Henry GIBSON b: ABT 1821 in Kentucky
Nancy Ann GIBSON b: ABT 1821 in Kentucky
Matilda Tilda GIBSON b: ABT 1830 in Strange Creek Unknown location Kentucky
Ellenor Nelly GIBSON b: MAR 1832 in Kentucky
Sarah Sally GIBSON b: 14 DEC 1837
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*Note: some of these notes, and others I initially located at a Melungeons link and a goodly amount of it was sourced and cited by Jack Goins as well (which I will post shortly.)
In addition to the above mentioned children for Martin & Eleanor , I have also seen reference to another son being George…BUT there appears to be some confusion as to which George was his son OR/& who this son George may have married, to wit:
some researcher believe that his BROTHER George is the one who MD Mary Polly Daniel and that Martin’s SON George married as such:
Marriage 1 Rachel UNKNOWN b: MAR 1816 in Virginia
Children
James E GIBSON b: APR 1850 in Virginia
William L GIBSON b: ABT 1855
Matilda GIBSON b: 1859
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Personal census notes to wit:
George Gibson
Spouse: Mary Polly Daniel
Parents: Martin Gibson , Eleanor Nelly Gibson
Birth Place: Perry County, KY
Birth Date: 1813
Marriage Place: Perry County, KY
Marriage Date: 24 November 1831
Death Place: Buchanan County, VA
Death Date: 10 May 1862
1870 census Putman Co
#53 household
1870 census Putman County WVA Union Dist
Conley, A.J. age 31 Farmer Virginia $100.00 Can not read/write
Melvina age 20 Keep hse Virginia ” “
Elizabeth A age 2 WVA
Nancy age 50 Virginia (mother) ” “
William age 14 Virginia (brother)
Parish age 12 Virginia (brother)
Sarah age 10 Virginia attending school (sister)
Harvey age 8 Virginia attending school (brother)
#52 household
Gibson, George age 60 Farmer Virginia
Rachel age 52 Virginia
James E age 19 Virginia
William L age 15 att sch Virginia
Matelia age 11 att sch Virginia
Deal Matelda age 3 Virginia
#51
Gibson, Richard age 31 Farmer Virginia
Matilda age 29 Virginia
John B age 6 att sch WVA
Jermemiah age 2 WVA
Harvey age 6/12 WVA
#50
Gibson, Jermiah age 32 Farmer KY
Cynitha age 31 Virginia
Matilda age 10 Virginia
George F age 6 WVA
James age 4 WVA
Sarah age 2 WVA
Mitchell, Hirman age 25 Farm Laborer
#54
Gibson, Mendy age 25 Farmer Virginia
Sarah J age 12 keep hse Virginia
Silas age 1
*Note: it is possible that George first MD Mary Polly Daniel and then MD Rachel UNK and had CH in the 1850’s.
END of Part2 of 3~~Laurie
Gosh Laurie,
I need to slow down and read this information…you have answered my question as to where Martin went after Ashe/Wilkes NC.:o Thanks.
Shirley
I’m a newbie to the forum, but was fascinated by some of the Gibson info. Have been researching eastern KY Civil War for years and am in the process of finishing Vol. I of what a friend & I hope to be a 3-volume history of the war in the Big Sandy valley of east KY. For Vol II, there’s a mystery I trust someone on the forum can help solve.
In March 1862, future president James A. Garfield was commanding the 18th Union Brigade camped in Pikeville, KY. A woman came into town one morning and announced that Rebel renegades had hanged her husband. We have at least 2 or 3 contemporary accounts from soldiers who were in the force that pursued the band, and all agree the man was hanged 7 miles upriver from Pikeville, which would be at the mouth of Shelby Creek, present day Shelbiana.
Garfield’s surgeon, a Dr. Harman, wrote a piece for a Cleveland, OH paper wherein he stated the Rebels had hanged a Mr. Gibson, and put a bullet in the hip of his father, because Gibson refused to join their command. For years I thought the unfortunate man was Wesley Gibson, House #32, 1860 Pike Co., but later found his name was John Wesley and he was in later enumerations as John W. The other possibility is William Gibson, age 35, House #30, wife Hannah, and children: W.B., or William B., 18, who married Hannah Bartley in 1860 (where did you get the 15-children info, ma’am?); John, 14; Elijah, 11; Eseval, 6; Nelly, 8; James, 4; and David, 5/12; also a daughter, Elizabeth, who married Charles Helton (Hylton) just before the war, House #111. Eliga Gipson, House 26, with 2 teenage sons, is also a possibility.
I was deflated to find the WV William Gibson who matched in age and died in 1874 or so, but I think his birth state was WV, but I may be wrong. Anyway, I have a bit of circumstantial evidence to indicate the Pike Co. William above may be the answer to my years-old search.
Can anyone help?
Randall Osborne
Here is what I know of and have of the above mentioned William:
“Source: located Sept 2006 from PAF @ AWTP of (owner) : Suzan Heil email: suzanheil@sbcglobal.net
Personal notes to wit:
“Marriage Bonds of Pike County Kentucky
File # 1587 License issued December 3, 1860 by John W. Emmert Clerk for marriage of William Gibson and Martha Bartley. Married December 5, 1860 at Jessee Bartley of Pike County in presence of James W. Sykes & James Nickels by Jessee Bartley JPPC.
1850 Tazewell Co Virginia
#1005
William Gibson 31 Kentucky
Patsy 30 Virginia
Joel 12
Matilda 10
Rebecca 8
Betsy (Elizabeth) 6
Lanina 4
Ino 9 months
1860 Buchanan County Virginia
Gibson, William 45 Farmer $26.00 KY
Gibson, Martha 40 KY Illiterate
Gibson, Rebecca 18 KY
Gibson, Elizabeth 16 KY
Gibson, Lewis 9 KY
Gibson, John 8 KY
Gibson, Isam 6
Gibson, Jacob 3
Gibson, Mary 2
Home in 1860
(City,County,State) Age in 1860 Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Gender View Image Save This
William Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 45 1814 Kentucky Male
Martha Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 40 1819 Virginia Female
Rebecca Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 18 1841 Female
Elizabeth Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 16 1843 Female
Lewis Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 9 1850 Male
John Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 8 1851 Male
Isam Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 6 1853 Male
Solomon Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 5 1854 Male
Jacob Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 3 1856 Male
Mary Gibson Not Stated, Buchanan, VA 2 1857 Female
1870 Kanawha County # 269/269 Cabin Creek last name is listed as Gepsan
Gibson, William 60 Laborer VA
Patsy54
Joel 40 All children state now WVA
Matilda 38
Rebecca 35
Lewis 33
John 31
Isam 29
Salman 27 I think this is Solomon
Mary 25
Jacob 23
George 21
Eli 12
Charles 10
Mary 8
Henry 6
William 4
1870 Kanawha County # 269/269
***Gibson, William 60 Laborer VA 1860 listed as 45 difference of 15 years
Patsy 54
Joel 40
Matilda 38
Rebecca 35 1860 18 years 7 years
Lewis 33 1860 9 years 14 years
John 31 1860 8 years 13 years
Isam 29 1860 6 years 13 years
Salman 27 I think this is Solomon
Mary 25 1860 2 years 13 years
Jacob 23 1860 3 years 10 years
George 21
Eli 12
Charles 10
Mary 8
Henry 6
William 4
Death record Kanawha County
William Gipson white male died April 15, 1874 due to fever, 50 years 6 months parents Martin and Ellen Gipson born Kentucky, Farmer married. J. Cooke neighbor gave info
Marriage records
AARON WALDON MARY E. GIPSON 13 Feb 1873 Fayette WV
HANEY GIPSON MARTHA D. FISHER 7 May 1873 Fayette WV
JOHN GIBSON EVELINE BASHAM 3 Dec 1877 Fayette WV
J. S. HEDRICK EMMA J. GIBSON 4 Jul 1883 Fayette WV
SOLOMON GIBSON MIRIAM ROBINSO 8 Jun 1884 Fayette WV
JONES ADKINS MARY GIPSON 18 Sep 1869 Fayette WV
GIBSON’S MARRIAGES PIKE CO KY
The following marriages maybe 1st, 2nd, and poss. 3rd marriages.
Pike Co. KY marriages from book Pioneer Families of Eastern & Southeastern Kentucky by William C. Kozee:
GIBSON Males:
David m Sylvia Bolling Mar. 26, 1857
Elijah m. Nancy McGee Feb. 26, 1824
Elijah m Delilah Smith March 15, 1845
Elijah m Evaline Slone Sept. 03, 1849 (?)
Ison m Evaline Slone Sept. 03, 1849 (?)
Ison m Margaret Jane Burk Aug. 04, 1854
James m Evaline Gibson Nov. 26, 1860 (was she Nee: Slone?) Joel m Polly Spears May 20, 1829
Joel m Rhoda Raynes Aug. 10, 1865
John m Polly Blanton Oct. 04, 1825
John m. Tazzy Bailey Feb. 16, 1855
John W. m Polly Ann Morgan Aug. 12, 1850
Martin, Jr. m Matilda Davis July 06, 1833
Robert m Elizabeth Moore March 29, 1832
Thomas Gibson m Susan Bartley Nov 26, 1860
William m Martha Bartley Dec. 05, 1860
Zachariah Gibson m Elizabeth Mc Gee (mo. & date blank) 1822
GIBSON Females:
Causby m Riley Sweeney May 29, 1859
Elizabeth m Hiram Hylton June 01, 1860 (was she Nee: Mc Gee or Moore?)
Juda m David Francis Oct. 04, 1836
Mary m Turner Branham Nov. 23, 1826
Spicy m William Morgan Oct. 07, 1854
Gibson deaths Fayette CO
Gibson, Cordelia; Oct 18744; 5 mo (Fay Co) par GI & Louisa Gibson; rpt GI Gibson father
Gibson, G I ; May 4 1885; 63 yr (VA) no parents listed rpt AP Gibson, son
Gibson, Landa O; Jan 14 1897 5 yr; par JL 7 Mary Gibson; rpt ML Gibson, Gather
Gibson, Louisa ; Jul 15 1889; 1 yr (Fay Co) par JW & Nancy Gibson; rpt Nancy Gibson, mother
Gibson, Lundy O; Feb 14 1898; 8 yr; par JL & MF Gibson; rpt JL Gibson father
Gibson, Nancy; Oct 27 1889; 28yr (Fay Co) par Ellen & John Gibson; rpt by husband
Gibson, Sarah L; Nov 27 1896; 10 yr; par John & Mary Gibson; rpt Mary Gibson mother
Gipson, -; Apr 12 1887 1 day (Fay Co)par H & MD Gipson; rpt Harvey Gipson, Father
Gipson, Grover; Apr 1 1890; 1 yr (Fay Co) par Harvey & Martha Gipson; rpt Martha Gipson, Mother
Gipson, Wm; May 7 1890 16 yr (fay co) par Harvey & Martha Gipson; rpt Martha Gipson, mother
Gibson, Clarinda; june 171889; 7 mo (WVA)
Gibson, Maggie; June 5 1897; 3 mo (handley)
Gibson, Simon; Apr 16 1891; 2 yr (WVA)
Gibson, Wm H; May 7 1890; 16 yr
Company B – Captain Gordon W. Rife’s Company (Previously Company F(2), 21st Battalion, Infantry and for a short time Company F(1), 64th Virginia Infantry). This company was formed, at an undetermined date, primarily from residents of Buchanan County. Gordon Rife previously served in the 34th Battalion Virignia Cavalry, and was obstensably detailed to gather deserters from that unit when he organized this company. Several men who served under Rife were deserters from the 34th, and its enigmatic leader, Vincent A. Witcher.
Officers were:
Gordon W. Rife, Captain
Jeremiah Gibson, 1st Lieutenant
John W. Wolhford, 2nd Lieutenant
Berry Compton, 2nd Lieutenant
Alfred Breeding, 2nd Lieutenant – Killed in Action”
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Sorry if some of it is redundant….I oft times locate something that appears “new” initially and put it in my FTM notes file irreguardless….I show this William as b: Nov 1824 KY or VA, d: 15 Apr 1874 Kanawha Co, WV….he is the s/o: Martin Gibson & Eleanor “Nelly” (White?) Davis….Wm. MD 3X: 1st: Ruby UNK…CH UNK; 2nd: Hannah UNK, issue: 7 CH; 3rd: Martha Jane Bartley, issue: 15 CH.
It truly seems unlikely that your “hanging victim” was the above mentioned William Gibson….as he had CH well beyond the date you mentioned. Sorry to spoil the soup Sir….keep on keepin’ on! Best to you in your endeavors~~~Laurie
Laurie:
Didn’t mean to be trite by asking where you got that info. I actually would like to pursue that line of the family since the William who married Ms. Bartley, who had 15 children, was actually the son of the William I long suspected to be the hanging victim. Where did they live in 1870 and beyond?
I’ve found this line of Gibsons to be extremely hard to track, as I’m sure others on this forum have also. My other possibility, Eliga, is listed as age 63 in 1860, but his wife Hannah is only 42, and they have a daughter, Priceller, who is 24, as well as sons 17 and 16. I think the age is a transcription error. Anyway, one of the boys died while in service with the 39th KY, US, and the other has eluded me entirely.
Back to William. Did his wife, Hannah, die sometime during or just after the war and he remarried? None of the children’s names match for the WV William, nor do the states of birth. My man in ’60 was listed as being born in KY.
Please, prove me wrong so I can give up on this guy and move on to another prospect. But, if I never find the victim, a good mystery is hard to beat.
Thanks for your response,
Randall
Bill Childs wrote: The Hawkins Co people look like a different family.
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Sorry I didn’t post this before:
1880 Buchanan Co., Va Census; ED14 Garden Mag. Dist; 28 & 29 June; Sheet 32D; family 263;
BALDWIN, John; 39, farmer, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Celia; 33, wife, Va, Va, Va.
………….., JAMES H; 8, son, Va.
………….., Squire; 4, son, Va.
………….., Tude (?), 2, dau, Va.
………….., Sarah J; 16, STEP-DAU, Va, Va, Va.
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1900 Buchanan Co., Va Census; ED8 Grundy Mag Dist;
Sheet 17A, 26 June;
family 290:
ADKINS, Squire; Day Laborer; Jan 1817, 83, Wid’d; Va, Va, Va.
……….., Nancy; Sister; Oct 1849, 50, sgl, 2 childr.,1 living; Va, Va
……….., Miles G; Nephew; May 1886, 14, Va, Va, Va.
Sheet 17B, 27 June; family 294:
ADKINS, James; farmer, Mar 1843, 57, m’d 20, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Rebecca; wife, May 1851?, 49, m’d 20, 2/2, Va, Va, Va
+ 2 dau’s, Millie, 17; and Emaline, 13.
family 295:
THOMAS, Harison; farmer, Jan 1865, 35, sgl, Va, Va, Va.
family 296:
ADKINS, Mary; Head, Apr 1864, 34, Wid’d, 4/4, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Sophy, dau, May 1893, 7, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Wm L., son, Oct 1894, 5, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Armilda, dau, May 1897, 3, Va, Va, Va.
……….., Mary J., dau, Apr 1899, 1, Va, Va, Va.
family 297:
BALDWIN, Squire, farmer, May 1877, 23, m’d 2yrs, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Mary J., wife, Mar 1880, 20, m’d 2yr, 1 child, Va, Va, Va
………….., Wm. M., son, Apr 1899, 1, Va.
family 299:
BALDWIN, JAMES, farmer, Mar 1873, 27, m’d 7yr, Va, Va, Va.
………….., IBBY, wife, Apr 1876, 24, m’d 7yr, 4 children, Va, Va, Va
………….., Louisa, dau, May 1894, 6, Va.
………….., Mary J., dau, Apr 1896, 4, Va.
………….., C- – le B., son, Jan 1898, 2, Va.
………….., Mendie, dau, Apr 1899, 1, Va.
family 300:
BALDWIN, John, farmer, May 1850, 50, m’d 33yr, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Celia, wife, Apr 1845, 55, m’d 33yr, 6 childr, 4 living, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Robert, son, Jan 1883, 17, Va, Va, Va.
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Here is John Floyd Baldwin after Celia passed in 1902.
1910 Buchanan Co., Va Census; ED8 Garden Dist, West of Louisa River; 28 & 29 April; Sheet 13B; family 227:
BALDWIN, JOHN F., farmer, 58, m’d 2x, m’d 2yr, Va, Va, Va.
………….., Mary A., wife, 53, m’d 2x, m’d 2yr, 10/8, Va, Va, Va.
BARTON, Louise A., Step-dau, 13, Va, Va, Va.
…………, Tilda, Step-dau, 8, Va, Va, Va.
( “10/8” is 10 children, 8 living)
……
Bill
Steve-o,
I have wondered for a while if our Adkins are tied somewhere, but do not have enough on mine to know for sure.
If the above Squire Adkins is your ancestor, then yes, you tie into my Adkins line. I am not quite sure where Squire fits in, but believe he descends from my William Adkins and Elizabeth Parker. I descend from the Adkins almost without any branches in the tree in that line.
William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker
Parker Adkins and Mary Bluesky Cornstalk
Little Berry Adkins & Nancy Adkins, d/o Mary Adkins (d/o Wm. & Elizabeth Parker Adkins) & Jacob (Harley)
Jesse Adkins & Nancy Adkins, d/o Sherrod Adkins (s/o Mary Adkins & Jacob (Harley)
Margaret Adkins & Daniel Jackson Skidmore/Watts (s/o Isaac Skidmore & Eleanore (Mills), widow of Elias Watts. Isaac Skidmore left and the children he had with Eleanore (Mills) Watts took on the Watts surname.
Everett Watts & Eleanore Roberts, d/o Alexander “Bird” Roberts & Susannah Wells
Volney Howard Watts & Mary Ann Adkins*
Thomas Benton Watts & Martha Louise Hale (Hale, Osburn, Ferguson, Skaggs descendant, ties into Castle/Casteel/Steele family). Her great great grandfather was Vinson Hale (& Jane Morgan) who’s daughter Delilah Hale married Henry Fleming Meadows, who can be found somewhere on this forum mentioned by another poster about being believed to have native roots. My Hale line is said to have native roots, I just cannot find out if they did or not because I am still trying to find the parents of Vinson Hale and Jane Morgan.
* Mary Ann Adkins was d/o Stanley Adkins & Ann Fry*. Stanley was s/o Brison Adkins & ? Brison’s mother may have been a Bryson.
* Ann Fry was d/o David Fry & Christina Adkins, d/o Little Berry Adkins & Nancy Adkins (above).
David Fry was George Peter Fry II & Mary Ann Johnston, d/o David Johnston and Nancy Abbott.
George Peter Fry II was s/o George Peter Fry I & Keziah Adkins, d/o Parker Adkins & Mary ? or Mary Bluesky Cornstalk (above).
George Peter Fry I was s/o George Fy and Margaret Scott
George Fry was s/o John Peter Fry & Catherine French. I also descend from French in my Clay line. My ancestress Obedience Clay, d/o Mitchell Clay & Phoebe Belcher married John French.
Squire Adkins in the above post is believed to have been related to Brison Adkins, and the line may trace to my William Adkins directly, or to possibly a brother of William Adkins. Being that Brison’s son Stanley married in Wayne Co. W.V., I feel there has to be a connection somehow to William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker based on everyone in Wayne and Cabell Counties appear to trace back to Wm. and Elizabeth.
I traced every male Adkins marriages between 1853 to 1900 in Wayne Co. and every male (over 200 + males) were descended from Wm. Adkins & Elizabeth Parker, and every female married, with the exception of 1 or 2 who I could find no information on, was an Adkins cousin who descended from William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker. So I feel pretty certain that Squire and my Brison Adkins fall into the same catagory.
Steve-o wrote: If the above Squire Adkins is your ancestor, then yes, you tie into my Adkins line. I am not quite sure where Squire fits in, but believe he descends from my William Adkins and Elizabeth Parker. I descend from the Adkins almost without any branches in the tree in that line.
William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker
Parker Adkins and Mary Bluesky Cornstalk
Little Berry Adkins & Nancy Adkins, d/o Mary Adkins (d/o Wm. & Elizabeth Parker Adkins) & Jacob (Harley)
Jesse Adkins & Nancy Adkins, d/o Sherrod Adkins (s/o Mary Adkins & Jacob (Harley)
Margaret Adkins & Daniel Jackson Skidmore/Watts (s/o Isaac Skidmore & Eleanore (Mills), widow of Elias Watts. Isaac Skidmore left and the children he had with Eleanore (Mills) Watts took on the Watts surname.
Everett Watts & Eleanore Roberts, d/o Alexander “Bird” Roberts & Susannah Wells
Volney Howard Watts & Mary Ann Adkins*
Thomas Benton Watts & Martha Louise Hale (Hale, Osburn, Ferguson, Skaggs descendant, ties into Castle/Casteel/Steele family). Her great great grandfather was Vinson Hale (& Jane Morgan) who’s daughter Delilah Hale married Henry Fleming Meadows, who can be found somewhere on this forum mentioned by another poster about being believed to have native roots. My Hale line is said to have native roots, I just cannot find out if they did or not because I am still trying to find the parents of Vinson Hale and Jane Morgan.
* Mary Ann Adkins was d/o Stanley Adkins & Ann Fry*. Stanley was s/o Brison Adkins & ? Brison’s mother may have been a Bryson.
* Ann Fry was d/o David Fry & Christina Adkins, d/o Little Berry Adkins & Nancy Adkins (above).
David Fry was George Peter Fry II & Mary Ann Johnston, d/o David Johnston and Nancy Abbott.
George Peter Fry II was s/o George Peter Fry I & Keziah Adkins, d/o Parker Adkins & Mary ? or Mary Bluesky Cornstalk (above).
George Peter Fry I was s/o George Fy and Margaret Scott
George Fry was s/o John Peter Fry & Catherine French. I also descend from French in my Clay line. My ancestress Obedience Clay, d/o Mitchell Clay & Phoebe Belcher married John French.
Squire Adkins in the above post is believed to have been related to Brison Adkins, and the line may trace to my William Adkins directly, or to possibly a brother of William Adkins. Being that Brison’s son Stanley married in Wayne Co. W.V., I feel there has to be a connection somehow to William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker based on everyone in Wayne and Cabell Counties appear to trace back to Wm. and Elizabeth.
I traced every male Adkins marriages between 1853 to 1900 in Wayne Co. and every male (over 200 + males) were descended from Wm. Adkins & Elizabeth Parker, and every female married, with the exception of 1 or 2 who I could find no information on, was an Adkins cousin who descended from William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker. So I feel pretty certain that Squire and my Brison Adkins fall into the same catagory.
Steve-O,
This is what Bill found for me on Squire:
1860 Buchanan Co., Va Census; P.O. Grundy; 27 July; p.36; H.H. # 230:
Squire ADKINS, 42, m, – , farmer, $0, $45, KY
Mary…………, 44, f, – , Va
James………., 21, m, – , Va
Nancy………., 18, f, – , Va.
CELIE……….., 16, f, – , Va
Jane ANDERSON, 69, f, – , no occupation, $0, $0, Va
Elizabeth………, 24, f, – , Va.
Squire Adkins, b.abt 1817/18 Ky (maybe Pike Co)
d.after 1900 Buchanan Co., Va;
m’d about 1837 Russell Co., Va
Mary Anderson, b.abt. 1816/17 Va
d. 1880 Buchanan Co., Va
(dau of David Anderson, b.abt.1794 Va; d.1853 Tazewell Co., Va; and
Jane Hackney, b.abt. 1794 Va, d. 1870 Buchanan Co., Va)
(In 1850, David and Jane with dau “Betsy”, 14, were living in Russell Co., Va)
(Both David’s and Jane’s mothers purported to be VAILs)
Squire’s parents:
James W. Adkins, b.abt. 1785 Giles Co., Va; d.aft. 1870 Pike Co., Ky
m’d Nancy Agness Bishop, b.abt. 1795 Giles Co., Va; d.after 1870 Pike Co., Ky. (Both are on the 1870 Pike Census, with Squire’s son Squire Jr living with them)
James W.’s father is purported to be James Atkinson (wife Mary_?_ ), b.1747 Va and d. 14 Apr 1837 – could be but I couldn’t prove it.
Squire’s daughter Celia married into my Baldwin (Balden) line from NC and VA
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hagerj&id=I107746
And if you go back further on Joel’s page you will find a William Adkins and Mary Perkins, click on the “unknown Adkins” child and you will find my Brison Adkins. I am soon going to be researching this Wm. Adkins and Mary Perkins as I am not certain yet on how this Wm. Adkins/Mary Perkins connects to my William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker, or if Joel is merely speculating a connection to the Adkins/Perkins line. “unknown Adkins” always leads me to believe the latter to be the case.
Steve-o wrote: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hagerj&id=I107746
And if you go back further on Joel’s page you will find a William Adkins and Mary Perkins, click on the “unknown Adkins” child and you will find my Brison Adkins. I am soon going to be researching this Wm. Adkins and Mary Perkins as I am not certain yet on how this Wm. Adkins/Mary Perkins connects to my William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker, or if Joel is merely speculating a connection to the Adkins/Perkins line. “unknown Adkins” always leads me to believe the latter to be the case.
I did see Perkins on ancestry…on this Adkin’s tree. I will do some digging too, thanks.
Shirley
A couple researchers have William Adkins, h/o Mary Perkins, as the son of William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker, which seems to make sense, but I am still digging.
If you have ancestry, the one world tree on this adkins line goes back quite far, but I am somewhat skeptical of the data, when no sources are given.
I think you said you have Anderson’s in your line??where do they come in? Mine mary into the adkins, see below.
JANE HACKNEY (daughter of John & Jane) was b-1794 d-1870-80 Buchanan Co. VA. m-3/8/1812 Giles Co. Va to David Anderson, (son of John and Nancy VAIL #1Ahl). He was born 1794 in Montgomery Co. VA d-1850-60 Tazewell Co? VA. They had eight known children:
1. David Jr. 10/20/1816 -3/28/1864 m-3/21/1838 Pike Co. Ky. to Emelia “Milly” JUSTICE b-1819 Floyd Co. KY.
2. Mary 1817-after 1880 Buchanan Co.? m-ab 1837 to Squire Adkins b-1818 KY.3. Nichodemus b-1825 Lee Co. VA d-by 1900 in Buchanan Co. VA m-ab 1846 to Nancy b-1827 Russell Co.#2 12/11/1866 Buchanan Co.Va. to Mary BALDWIN
4. Nancy 1826 Lee Co. m-ab 1848 to George Hagey b-1827 Grayson Co.
5. Rebecca b-1827 m-Ison Slone?
6. Joseph Anderson b-1829-1832 – d-1870-1880 m-Ellender HACKNEY b-12/1831 Russell Co. d-after 1900 (daughter of Nichodemus & Nancy)
7. Delima Melanda 1833 to-Anderson Hackney (son of John & Nancy ANDERSON m-#2 1851 Pike Co. KY to Michael Lee Nooncaster b-1827-d-1869 m-#3 3/18/1878 Buchanan Co. to John Wesley Davis.
8. Elizabeth “Betsy” 1836-after 1870
associated link: http://members.aol.com/MDEROOTS/JohnHackney.html
another interesting link:
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/morgan/vitals/marriages/m1854.txt
***You’ll have to close your eyes when you get to the melungeon part…but there are many associated surnames and the Mullins are another associated family. Check out the first names Ambrose, Squire etal.
“A Brief History of Buchanan County” by Hannibal Albert Compton, March 1958…I had the opportunity to peruse this book while in Grundy ( a library reference book), really some good stuff!
Excerpt:
The Mullins’ first came to Buchanan County from Letcher County, Kentucky and from Wise County, Virginia. Some of those who came from Wise were from the part that is Dickenson County now. Old Tommy Mullins (William Thomas Mullins) was one of the earliest of the pioneers, who came here before the county was even thought about. He settled on the ridge between Slate Creek, Sprucepine and Harry’s Branch. Old Tommy performed marriage ceremonies and made his returns to the court at Jeffersonville, now Tazwell. (The history of Tazwell County has many, many marriages signed by Thomas Mullins.) He was the father of Preston Mullins, Ambrose, Bill, Squire, and Henderson, Old Wylie Stacy’s wife, Matilda, and aunt Daicy, the second wife of Henry Horn.
Some of the Mullins’ were skillful distillers and took great pride in their art. And will they might have, for Old Pres Mullins pure corn whiskey acted as a stimulant and a sedative at the same time, have the most soothing effect on tired nerves and muscles, bringing sleep to the insomulent, and wakefulness to the Drowsy. Old Pres lived to be a ripe old age. The last time I him he was in the late eighties, and was working for W.M. Ritter at their camp on Looney’s Creek. As long as I knew him he lived on the State Line Ridge, between Knox and Panther Creeks. Alert, but not alergic, he lived out his days in his own old haunts, in the elevated eerie, like an eagle, immune and aloft.
I just love reading this…you can just picture what went on…my father has shared stories with me…quite similar;)
I wish Bill were around, he was always so good at deducing good info from bad…I will keep looking…
Shirley
Shirley
Apparently, some Adkins researchers feel that William Adkins, s/o Wm. & Elizabeth Parker Adkins, was married more than once, which could very well have happened. Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary. Mary…so many Marys involved in the Adkins line that it is almost overkill or something. They should have trademarked the name. Thatis always what throws myself and alot of other people into delusion at times and where actual marriage records help sort through the online misinformation.
But anyway, I know nothing on any Andersons in my Adkins lines…directly anyway. Anything past William Adkins (Elizabeth Parker) is speculative at best and may have stemmed from, and branched over to Ancestry, the LDS stating their “final word” on who William’s parents were. I have always had problems with LDS who just throw in whoever with whoever and thier faith’s adoption beliefs that if they adopt a name into their religious faith they will get into Heaven. Quite a few of my ancestors, that I know were actually my ancestors, were Baptist – Baptist Footwashers – etc. They were not Mormon.
But they state that their “final word” is based on the best fit. Well they have been “best fitting” for some time now, but that doesn’t mean they were right.
Go to the LDS site and look up my great grandfather Volney Watts and you will find they have him listed as a female.
Again, the point is, I am still uncertain as to who my William Adkins parents really were. Seeing that some researchers have his daughter, my ancestress, and Parker Adkins’ sister, Mary Adkins (Harley) as being born in the Jamestown Colony I looked at some early lists of names in the 1600’s of the colonists and found some Adkins who could have been William’s ancestors and it one day may prove to be the truth. But I really have no idea where that information came from unless it is based on the Earl Of Oxford family lore concerning Jacob (Harley).
If the DNA Adkins Project is true, but DNA has always been touchy with me for alot of reasons, the Slone family is said to share very similar DNA with my/our Adkins line. Enough that they mention it on the project site. There are pictures online of Powhatan/Chickahominy Adkins natives that I found not too long ago. One of them was named Littleberry. So that along with the vestry book stating a William Adkins requesting permission to go to the Chickahominy for medical help still makes me wonder if there wasn’t some sort of ties to the Powhatan and/or Chickahominy in my Adkins line. But that really can only be answered by finding whom my William Adkins’ parents were and not basing things on what is the “best fit”.
Some researchers have Squire born in 1817, so the 1818 date may be off by a year. Ambrose was a fairly common name for the time, so I cannot base anything off of that. Quite a few, apparently unrelated, Watts had the first name of Ambrose. Squire could come from either the Squire surname or the English royalty title as well. It is truely hard to make any clear statement based on those first names. For instance, the name Shirley originally was a male name. There is actually a male Adkins buried in Wayne Co. with the first name of Shirley who is somehow connected directly with a female 2nd cousin of mine name Shirley Adkins…I am sure LDS would have a field day with that one.
I just cannot see how there would be one Adkins in Wayne Co., out of over 200 that connect, not being related to William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker in some way. My hunch is that if my Brison Adkins is descended from William Adkins & Mary Perkins, then it is quite possible that Wm. & elizabeth’s known son by the name of William was married more than once. But Brison could “best fit” as the child of a few Wm. & Elizabeth descendants.
As far as the Hackney/Anderson marriage information above goes, this is the first I have seen this information so I cannot comment on it in any knowledgeable fashion. There are only 2 Andersons linsted in my marriage book between 1853 and 1900, so if they palyed any role in my Adkins lines, it was minimal at best.
Steve-o wrote: Apparently, some Adkins researchers feel that William Adkins, s/o Wm. & Elizabeth Parker Adkins, was married more than once, which could very well have happened. Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary. Mary…so many Marys involved in the Adkins line that it is almost overkill or something. They should have trademarked the name. Thatis always what throws myself and alot of other people into delusion at times and where actual marriage records help sort through the online misinformation.
But anyway, I know nothing on any Andersons in my Adkins lines…directly anyway. Anything past William Adkins (Elizabeth Parker) is speculative at best and may have stemmed from, and branched over to Ancestry, the LDS stating their “final word” on who William’s parents were. I have always had problems with LDS who just throw in whoever with whoever and thier faith’s adoption beliefs that if they adopt a name into their religious faith they will get into Heaven. Quite a few of my ancestors, that I know were actually my ancestors, were Baptist – Baptist Footwashers – etc. They were not Mormon.
But they state that their “final word” is based on the best fit. Well they have been “best fitting” for some time now, but that doesn’t mean they were right.
Go to the LDS site and look up my great grandfather Volney Watts and you will find they have him listed as a female.
Again, the point is, I am still uncertain as to who my William Adkins parents really were. Seeing that some researchers have his daughter, my ancestress, and Parker Adkins’ sister, Mary Adkins (Harley) as being born in the Jamestown Colony I looked at some early lists of names in the 1600’s of the colonists and found some Adkins who could have been William’s ancestors and it one day may prove to be the truth. But I really have no idea where that information came from unless it is based on the Earl Of Oxford family lore concerning Jacob (Harley).
If the DNA Adkins Project is true, but DNA has always been touchy with me for alot of reasons, the Slone family is said to share very similar DNA with my/our Adkins line. Enough that they mention it on the project site. There are pictures online of Powhatan/Chickahominy Adkins natives that I found not too long ago. One of them was named Littleberry. So that along with the vestry book stating a William Adkins requesting permission to go to the Chickahominy for medical help still makes me wonder if there wasn’t some sort of ties to the Powhatan and/or Chickahominy in my Adkins line. But that really can only be answered by finding whom my William Adkins’ parents were and not basing things on what is the “best fit”.
Some researchers have Squire born in 1817, so the 1818 date may be off by a year. Ambrose was a fairly common name for the time, so I cannot base anything off of that. Quite a few, apparently unrelated, Watts had the first name of Ambrose. Squire could come from either the Squire surname or the English royalty title as well. It is truely hard to make any clear statement based on those first names. For instance, the name Shirley originally was a male name. There is actually a male Adkins buried in Wayne Co. with the first name of Shirley who is somehow connected directly with a female 2nd cousin of mine name Shirley Adkins…I am sure LDS would have a field day with that one.
I just cannot see how there would be one Adkins in Wayne Co., out of over 200 that connect, not being related to William Adkins & Elizabeth Parker in some way. My hunch is that if my Brison Adkins is descended from William Adkins & Mary Perkins, then it is quite possible that Wm. & elizabeth’s known son by the name of William was married more than once. But Brison could “best fit” as the child of a few Wm. & Elizabeth descendants.
As far as the Hackney/Anderson marriage information above goes, this is the first I have seen this information so I cannot comment on it in any knowledgeable fashion. There are only 2 Andersons linsted in my marriage book between 1853 and 1900, so if they palyed any role in my Adkins lines, it was minimal at best.
Steve,
All I can say is thanks for sending my funny bone into a dither…lol…I do look at associated family names and how they name their children…it is how, I have managed to stumble over as much info on my family, as I have. I do love to laugh, though! You have to or the Mary’s will get you!
Just thought on my part, that if their was a connection at the adkins…there might be a connection at the Anderson’s, oh well miss.
My George Gibson was one of the 31 memebers of the primitive Baptist church, Tazewell (I think), I know all about the foot washing. When searching for my gggrandmother Isabelle Rosina Gibson…never thought to look for Lbby, or my greatgrandmother Celie B…listed on the censs as a boy, well, she was only 18 months old, who would know??
I enjoy your posts…keep them coming. I will see if I can find anything, we haven’t seen yet.
Shirley
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