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I got my photo program unscrambled, and will email a picture of the aforementioned Monasukapanough historical marker to Linda to post here. The file is too big just to paste it in.
Well her reply was, I should just type up the text on that marker. So here it is:
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MONACAN INDIAN VILLAGE
Near here, on both sides of the Rivanna River, was located the Monacan Indian village of Monasukapanough. This village was one of five Monacan towns that Captain John Smith recorded by name on his 1612 Map of Virginia, though many more existed. Monasukapanough was a chief’s village and was occupied for several centuries until it was abandoned in the late seventeenth or early eighteenth century. Monacan descendants still reside throughout the central Virginia area. The tribe’s headquarters today is on Bear Mountain in Amherst County.
PappyDick wrote: By the turn of the century (1700, maybe a few years before) the main Occaneechi settlement had moved to the vicinity of present Hillsborough, NC. But in Lederer’s time, that was Eno country.
How large was the original settlement at Hillsboro, NC?
I have read that all but 14 men and 14 women remained there, while the others headed north to Shamokin Dam, PA, before heading further north…
I guess you mean the original Occaneechi settlement, near what is now Hillsborough? Hard to say; apparently they settled there, after being run off from their earlier island home, in 1676. So, Lederer had visited them (in 1670) elsewhere, as had Needham and Arthur (in 1673). I’m not sure any of these early visitors counted noses; and if they did, the count was soon reduced by the unfortunate outcome of Bacon’s Rebellion. If you go to the archaeology site at http://www.ibiblio.org/dig/ and click on “Contents,” then scroll down to “Background” and read those three articles, you’ll have a pretty good handle on it. But some of their identifications, like the site of “Occaneechi Island” from a 1735 map (50 years after the Occaneechi had been forced to abandon it) are probably misleading, as are descriptions in the text based on them. There is for instance something said about the Occaneechi moving “south to the Eno.” But if Briceland is right, Occaneechi Island was elsewhere, and they moved mostly west to the Eno (in 1676).
Also germane to this discussion is a thread on this “Share History Research” forum started by Bill Childs about three years ago, under the title “Monacan Alliance, people and History.” Some of the geographical information in that thread is also uninformed by Briceland’s work, which Bill didn’t read until this year. It’s not for me to say whether he has changed his mind about these locations — but at any rate there are many useful references on that thread, with sources cited.
Are you saying that there is controversy as to whether or not the island where the Occoneechee were massacred is the one below Clarksville, VA?
Actually, I was saying that from there to Hillsborough is more west than south — but I was mistaken. I guess it’s SSW, maybe with an “and by” thrown in — or something. I’ve been handicapped by the fact that my (modern, Highway Dept.) NC map and VA map are at different scales, and neither shows much of the other state.
But another point is that earlier maps, based primarily upon the very inaccurate compass of Lederer in 1670, showed Akenatzy well to the east of where the Eno lived. I believe that clickable 1735 map in the background link I mentioned is just a detail, and doesn’t show the Hillsborough area. (Maybe it’s more south, on that map, and less west.) Whatever, it reports Occaneechi as a place name several decades after they had left that place. And, that’s OK.
I didn’t know if this had been posted before or not but I’ve never seen this until now.
http://www.jgoins.com/webtimeline.htm
saj
Well glory be, somebody has finally put something on Saponitown that mentions my family (Hulin, Hewlin, Huland etc. — along about 1759 and thereafter, on this Timeline — better late than never, I guess).
I myself have mentioned them several times, on a “Simon Jeffries and Tar River neighbors” thread; but so far, the rush of recognition by all my presumed Saponi cousins out there has been underwhelming.
Take note of the thread “Hening’s Statutes…” These contain early laws and rulings from Williamsburg in VA and include the names of many folks who were reimbursed for service during the French and Indian wars.
Techteach
Brenda Ferrell Sampsel wrote: “Sometime before his final illness Swatana took a new wife, a Tutelo woman, who returned to her own people after his death.”
[Swatana is the father of Logan].
http://www.biographi.ca/EN/ShowBioPrintable.asp?BioId=35792
From the intro. to this article:
“SWATANA (an abbreviation of Onkiswathetami, “he causes it to be light for us”; Ungquaterughiathe, cited in one document, is an alternative expression of the same idea; Shikellimy, variously spelled, is an Algonkian equivalent), an Oneida chief of the Bear clan, resident near and at Shamokin (now Sunbury, Pa.), an Iroquois supervisor of the Shawnees and a key figure in Indian-English relations; first mentioned in official records in 1728; d. at Shamokin on 6 Dec. 1748.”
The search page in THE DICTIONARY OF CANADIAN BIOGRAPHY ON LINE where this article was found:
RECORDS OF THE MORAVIAN MISSION AMONG THE INDIANS OF NORTH AMERICA: INDIAN NATIONS INDEX is now on line.
Under TUTELO in the index:
Box 121; Folder 5; …included is a notation for “Nationality of Shikellimy’s Widow 3/19/1749”
Not sure if Linda has found this yet or not, so here it is.
Brenda
Brenda at one time did you not post some research or info into the native families in the OHIO area, I recall something back a while, but can’t locate it, I may have family tyes to people with the name COOKE that may be part native aswell.
hope that you see this, Tom
Here is a useful map : http://members.tripod.com/~imblackeagle/index-9.html
It locates the tribes that John Smith recorded.
Here is a note of Siouan-speaking tribes living in southern Fairfax county : http://www.belvoir.army.mil/history.asp?id=Native
Techteach
Here is a notation of Doeg and Manahoac tribes on the migration route my folks took : http://www.historicprincewilliam.org/2nlet91.html
Techteach
And finally: Here’s the names of 8 Indians attending William and Mary in 1754, taken from 1898 William and Mary College Quarterly. Not sure the original source but footnotes include a publication by Foot “Sketches of Virginia: Virginia Schools Before and After the Revolution” and Peyton’s “History of Augusta County”
Sampsons, John
Murphey, Charles
Langston, Gideon
Cooke, William
Langston, John
Sampson, William
Squirrel, William
Montour, John
John Montour information is found here : http://research.history.org/Historical_Research/Research_Themes/ThemePossession/Montour.cfm . At least, it might be the same one. He would have been the grandson of Queen Catherine who lived near Shamokin, PA and interacted with Chief Logan’s family.
Techteach
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