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Does anyone know any documentation stating that some people with the Dickson/Dixon surname are Saponi?
I once wrote Dr. Airy Dixon and he told me Dickson and Dixon were the same surname, and that he’d traced his to the Saponi. I was wondering where this is documented.
one of my g-g-g-grandma’s was Mary (Polly) Wood/s and her mother was Nancy [Dickson] Wood/s. Mary’s birthplace is listed as Holston River in E Tn, in 1796 so Nancy (her mother) was there also in 1796. Their family moved to Indiana in 1806. i know nothing more about Nancy’s family, her brothers and sisters, nor who her parents were.
Thanks
vance
Moved to Indiana in 1806? Hmmmmm. If I come across anything I’ll let ya’ know. Love & Light, Lynella.
P.S, out of curiosity, what part of Indiana?
Dixon is listed as a Saponi surname and as a Creek surname in a book by Richard Haithcock. I don’t have the title page info. for that book with me – it’s three volumes of written information from the author’s research and copied articles and excerpts from other sources. Richard is Occaneechi-Saponi. If you want me to look for title page infomration on these volumes or other information let me know. The books are primarily history, geography, etc. – not a lot of genealogy.
There is a Thos. Dixon listed on the 1794 Wilkes Co, NC Tax List at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~craingen/SIZEMORE2.html
Lynella,
those are the Wood’s, a Wood/s married a Dickson and they had a daughter, Mary Polly Wood/s b. 1796 in Tn who married John Richey, b. 1797 in Va — they married in Gibson County, Indiana, in 1816.
Cheryl,
I wasn’t aware that Richard Haithcock wrote a book about the Saponi. Thanks. 🙂 When I wrote Airy Dixon he suggested me contacting a Mr Haithcock (don’t recall the given name) and I did. His response wasn’t very helpful, tho, and I recall being dissapointed, as there was no suggestion at all that he had any information about the Dixon/Dickson surname, much less a whole book. hmmm . . . 🙁 I might want to buy such a book in fact. 🙂
I’d love to find out more. Thanks.
vance
Vance,
Thank you for the additional info. I printed this and I’m sticking it, right now, to the wall next to the computer to remind me!;) Love & Light, Lynella. P.S, I have got to do some serious book buying!! I need to put together a list of all these books everyone talks about and sit Glenn down here with HIS credit card and tell him it’s what i want for my birthday and x-mas’s for the rest of my life!
Richard would love to sell you his books. He has a two or three volume set he sells for around a hundred bucks, which is pretty reasonable considering how much all that copying costs. (I priced it out once, and it would cost about $70 to take a copy to Staples.) I’ll email you with a phone number, which may still be good.
The last time I was in contact with Richard was just this past fall so his number should still be good.
Linda & Crystal,
😎 Yes, Please!;) Thank You so very much!
Man, I keep seeing this stuff, on every post just about that is historical, yet it parallels my life in some wildly strange, x-file way! That’s all I’ll say here! Wood, Vance, is just one of these, but oh so huge! I’ll look for everything I can on these folks for you. 😉 Love & Light, Lynella.
Hi Linda,
If Richard’s books are still available, could you send me (stacey.23@insightb.com) his contact info, too? I had tried to order them earlier. According to Amazon, they are out of print. I had tried Amazon’s 30 day search feature to see if they could locate a copy, but they were unable to do so. I have only found the books in a few libraries, and none of them will let you check the books out – they have to stay in the Genealogy section.
Stacey
Maybe I wasn’t clear to him or I should have followed up on it. Sometimes You get behind and a lead just falls through the cracks and is forgotten. Will he be at the reunion this summer? If I haven’t ordered it by then (hopefully I will have) maybe he ought to bring a few copies. 🙂
Thanks yall.
Lynella I’m with you. All these books are out there and I need to make a list too and just sit down, spend a couple of hours, and just order them. I have too many lines of research going on at the same time, and this along with “work” and “lifes other obligations” takes so much time . . .
Vance
You are 100% right Vance!:) On ALL the above. I have only gone to March Pow Wow, in Denver a few times, it seems too comercial to me, but if all goes as planned Glenn is going to take me tomorrow. It’s at the Coliseum. I need to get a few things that I have only been able to find at pow wows. So that’s what my tomorrow is taken up with. But I do have to get on these book orders. Thank you guys! Lynella.
The title for the book is Occaneechi Saponi and Tutelo of the Saponi Nation: aka Piedmont Catawba; Southeastern Indian Refugees from Virginia, the Carolinas and Tennessee in Ohio, Indiana and Michigan. Written and compiled by Richard L. Haithcock and Vicki L. Haithcock, November 1996. (self- published)
The lists of surnames for various Indian Nations are in Volume I.
Dickson is listed as Catawba.
Dixon is listed multiple times under these surname lists – Black Cherokee (Freedmen adopted through the Dawes Commission, between 1898 & 1916), Black Chickasaws, Creek, Black Creek, Delaware (April 1904 per capita payroll and on a 1842 – 1907 list), Saponi, Wyandott and On a Muster Roll of Wyandott Indians who departed Upper Sandusky, Ohio – George Dixon 2 over 25/0 under 25/Canada (it seems there were 30 Wyandotts in Canada at the time).
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In The Final Rolls of Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes In Indian Territory, 1907, both Dickson and Dixon are listed. Under Creeks by blood several Dickson’s are listed: Chicken age 46 M Full blooded, Nancy age 17 F Full, Linda age 14 F Full, Wison age 11 M Full, Anna age 44 F Full. These are on census card # 2177 except Anna who is on census card # 3993.
On the list of Creek Freedmen there are several Dixons. Joshua age 45 M, Fred age 14 M, Kizzie age 12 F, lennie age 10 M, johnie age 8 M, Edwin age 5 M all on census card #339. David age 49 M, and Jimmie age 2 M are listed on census card #666. Edna age 1 1/2 F is on card#1515.
Cheryl,
🙂 Thank you kindly for posting this info. It comes at a good time, Glenn’s feeling overly generous! He’s offered to get some of these books everyone keeps talking about! Love & Light, Lynella.
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~mgf2j/natives.html
article above mentions an Indian named “Captain Dickson” about 1764 —
Hysteria was rampant. The Augusta court committed Alexander McAllister and Hugh Millikan to jail “on suspicion of their favoring the design of the enemy Indians,” but released them in November of 1764 because nothing could be proved. In Staunton—which had never been attacked before—jittery citizens “hired 13 or 14 men to watch them as well waking or sleeping … and some walk around the Court house no doubt to holoo out when they see the Indians enter the town.” West of town Reverend Brown’s mother and sister were “not a little affraid and I think no wonder of it for there were none beyond her but John Trimble and Finley … I fear there is Danger on that quarter.”
Indeed there was danger. In September, at Trimble’s on Middle River, beyond the home of Reverend Brown’s mother and sister, a mile east of Buffalo Branch, and seven west of Staunton, a renegade white man or “half-blood” named Captain Dickson “with a party of 12 or 13 warriors” captured fifteen-year-old James Trimble and “a colored boy named Adam.” The boys were trying to catch a horse to plow, and perhaps the Indians decoyed them with a horse bell. Old John Trimble, worried because the horses suddenly ran toward the house, took his gun into the woods to have a look. The sound of the shots that killed him sent his wife Mary scurrying for the woods where she watched as Indians hauled out her pregnant daughter Kitty Estill and hoisted her and the household plunder on horses before heading west.
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