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March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #20326
I don’t think the nonprofit papers have been filled out yet.
Take note of our get-together this summer, if you can make it, Collins. You will find it both in the Welcome to Saponitown thread and the Events thread. See if you can stop by. For the first time, I plan to be there. Every othe time it has been on a weekend when I was at a conference. I just made reservations.
Techteach
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #22281Haven’t been on this site, however I have had quite a few nice things happen in my life concerning my identity. In a dream I remember my grandmother telling us we’s Pikuni People, & my grandfather telling me that his family was Mesa Verde.
The folks on my mothers side are definitely Cherokee, we aren’t sure what kind, but could someone be so kind as to show me where to go to put the informaton I do have onto a table to begin to look for my kin
Louise Thundercloud
Also there is a pow wow that main mixed bloods attend in New York in october, I will also be formally given the title Chief I have held since last year. I was made Vice Chief as well as Band Chief, my first order of business is to provide protection to those who have absolutely no proof of ancestry
We are also offering through the Cherokee Blackfeet Cultural Circle tax exempt status.
For information on that call Chief Red Deer at 917 280-1625 or 917 951-0294
I am at maudehills@aol.com
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #22282Oh I forgot to mention that I do have a Western Blackfoot tie from Montana, then Canada, I guess I am not supposed to exist huh? My grandmothers tales were that the Cherokee shielded the Blackfoot as the government chased them all over the place & killed them for no reason
Louise Thundercloud
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #29195Hi Everyone, I was wondering if there has been any new information on this. I am very interested in joining this association. If anyone has any new info, please pass it on. Thanks Gavin, AKA “Whitehawk”
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #29207Hi Linda,
First I want to say I think your idea is great, it will challenge many things that depserately need challenged. You will be attacked for it, but just ignore that. If the insults help hone research skills, then that is excellent for all. Privacy is also important. It was here that I finally abandoned what I knew was a family fable to hide, and began looking for who my family really is, and I found them all, right on rez roles. So many thanks. Whether some folks like it or not, it is clear to me the Creator or whatever ya wanna call Him is working through you for natives. I wish the ones opposing you had half the heart to recover their displaced, and lost brothers that you have constantly demonstrated. If they had, maybe natives as a whole would have been in a much different and better place than they are now long ago.
I find it thoroughly disgusting as an Arapaho that people would have a problem with this at all. Apparently they forgot their own history, about how their own people were dispersed after Sand Creek Massacre and other atrocities. It also thoroughly irks me that the same ones who whine about a native who has some white mixed in (‘wannabe’ has become such an ugly buzz word, with little or no real meaning other than more or less a middle finger at someone they prolly don’t even know), will fully embrace a spaniard conquistador with less or no blood at all. You hit a hot button and I am glad you did. Truth is most of the tribes have lots of spaniard mixed in now and noone says a word, but it let be a little but of white and OH MY GAWD shoot em!
Good job, you have my support, you will find your way as you go, like all of us always have. I think most of the people angry at you are probably mad that the settler in them is showing up, and their own greed being exposed. Nothing as unsettling to some of them as the idea that others who are real tribal descendants of theirs might find their way back home, and want to live with the tribe and shake up their corruption, mind control, little modulated suburban world, and take a bit of land, or God forbid even percap money.
Good job Linda. Never understimate the power of what appears to some to be a weakness. I wish they all had the same weakness, if it is that.
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #29219Thanks for the kind words. We need to get moving on the ESDA.
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #29222Hi Linda:
Hope all is well.
I just wanted to let you know that I agree with junglegeorge 100%. I’m not sure what this disdain is humanity (or not?) still finds for one another.
You also have my support.
Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #29843I would be interested in the ESDA. I’ll keep checking back
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #30457Any updates on this?
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #30460I’ve been reading this forum and frankly, its gonna take me awhile but I plan on reading every forum on this site. I was amazed by the venom being spewed out by this young 27 year old Cheyenne hothead. I also am under the impression there were a few more that were deleted that I missed. You will find guys like these everywhere in every culture. On many of the reservations they are the young radical fringe that think they know everything and strike out at everybody. The Tuscarora reservation has a band of them that shave their heads except for scalplocks and go off the rez and cause trouble and have even been caught stealing ATMs and dragging them back to the reservation and cracking them open. I would dare to say that their opinions are not representative of the tribe. It just shows no matter how different people are they are still the same type of societies as a whole. Isn’t it a shame that societies as a whole can’t evolve? You know that old saying that if we don’t learn from our mistakes history is doomed to repeat itself.
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #30500Hi Jack:
I agree with you, troublemakers, particularly those who believe they are justified in their hostilities, can be found all over the world.
I noted you were in Florida going home to Virginia, eh?
My husband (who is from Ireland) and I are also in Florida on the East Coast in Saint Lucie County. It is our hope too to be moving “home” to Virginia. My husband has been there only once and fell in love with it. My mom is from Louisa County and my son is in Richmond at VCU. Stuff keeps happening that puts our plan further off, but it will happen.
I hope you get home soon.
Lynn
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #30502lynnd wrote: Hi Jack:
I agree with you, troublemakers, particularly those who believe they are justified in their hostilities, can be found all over the world.
I noted you were in Florida going home to Virginia, eh?
My husband (who is from Ireland) and I are also in Florida on the East Coast in Saint Lucie County. It is our hope too to be moving “home” to Virginia. My husband has been there only once and fell in love with it. My mom is from Louisa County and my son is in Richmond at VCU. Stuff keeps happening that puts our plan further off, but it will happen.
I hope you get home soon.
Lynn
I have been gone from “Home” 33 years and we have been trying to get back to VA for 4 years. Finally, there is not enough equity in the house to make it worth suffering Florida anymore. We decided to “dump” the house and go home. Florida is not Florida the southern state anymore. It is now South New York. Be aware that developers are now trying to sell your NC, VA, TN, KY land to northerners who are unhappy with florida now that they have ruined it and they are coming to a development near you. They want to live in your area but not amonst you. They will move into developments with walls and gated communities to keep the Riff Raff (you & me) out. Furthermore, they will demand infrastructure to make their lives easier which wil be paid for by higher taxes for you. Their way of life will come with them and their rude, loud, thieving relatives will follow. And they will infest your rural areas like a plague of locusts and be more than happy to tell you how things were better in (insert your choice of yankee state, town or community here).
Can you tell I am on a rampage here? Another reason I am moving north to the south. If only our ancestors had just put an arrow into everyone who landed on the shore.:rolleyes:
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #30503I just realized I was ‘Off Topic”.
So, I think the ESDA is a great idea.
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #30519Jack…we have to deal with the developers here all the time. In fact I just read the Trading Path Newsletter about how the old packmule/wagon trail in our county is getting ready to be gone and developed. Our history is disappearing daily….I see so little preserved. In fact that is one of the gripes I have about the show Extreme Home Makeovers…they tear down instead of remaking or salvaging. I know they do some, but, seems they could do more, especially when trying to be “green”.
And I do have to hear from new homeowners(customers) about how much better things were in their community….so go back if it was all that good. Just don’t tell me how to live or drive in NC. I like staying at home in the snow….not being a crazy on the road….ok, know I am totally off topic…and finished ranting…at least for the moment.
March 4, 2003 at 3:31 am #30522ESDA ????… Thats the topic, but????…. No answer :(] … That being said. I hate to burst your bubbles but urban sprawl is everywhere. Even out here in the middle of nowhere. Mostly people from the west coast trying to escape the nest they crapped in. And illegals from all over the world.
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