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November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30222
Osiyo All~~ Here are some good links for genealogy research~~Everyone have a wonderful Easter and many blessings~~u~na~li~i~~^~~Greydove~~ http://members.aol.com/tawodi http://www.glorecords.blm.gov http://resources.rootsweb.com/~rootslink (then click on surname)
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30239Osiyo~~Here’s more links~~ http://www.indigenouspeople.net/ipl_final.html http://www.nativewiki.org/Main_Page Enjoy~~Greydove~^~
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30309Greydove wrote: …Sarah’s mother was Harriet Summers b 1829 VA and Harriet’s mother was Johanna Davis b 1778 d 1837 Clay VA. Johanna Davis m Jehu Summers b 1776 d 1864 VA–his father Johan b 1748 d 1770 Enos VA.
Hi Greydove,
Per the online trees, Johann Summers and Elizabeth Hull would be my 6GGrandparents. I have the line proven back to my 5GGrandfather, Lewis, who would be Jehu’s brother. Lewis was born 1771 and died 1855. He is buried here in Indiana about 15 miles from my house. Here is my Summers line…
Johann Summers (b. 1748-49) m’d Elizabeth Hull
…Lewis Summers (b. 1771-73) m’d Lydia Daugherty
……Valentine Summers (b. 1808) m’d Mary McLain Williams
………Ann “Eliza” Summers (b. 1837) m’d Radford Turner
…………India “Nora” Louise Turner (b. 1874) m’d Noah Shrock
……………Guy Shrock (b. 1892) m’d Gladys Loman
………………My Grandma
…………………My Dad
……………………Me
Stacey
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30327stacey.23 wrote: Hi Greydove,
Per the online trees, Johann Summers and Elizabeth Hull would be my 6GGrandparents. I have the line proven back to my 5GGrandfather, Lewis, who would be Jehu’s brother. Lewis was born 1771 and died 1855. He is buried here in Indiana about 15 miles from my house. Here is my Summers line…
Johann Summers (b. 1748-49) m’d Elizabeth Hull
…Lewis Summers (b. 1771-73) m’d Lydia Daugherty
……Valentine Summers (b. 1808) m’d Mary McLain Williams
………Ann “Eliza” Summers (b. 1837) m’d Radford Turner
…………India “Nora” Louise Turner (b. 1874) m’d Noah Shrock
……………Guy Shrock (b. 1892) m’d Gladys Loman
………………My Grandma
…………………My Dad
……………………Me
Stacey
Hi Stacey, I’ve been away for a few days and almost missed this post. We’re related. I’ve read some of your previous posts and I thought wow, this lady makes a whirlwind of a researcher!! My line of Summers~~~Johan Paul Sommers (b 20 Sept 1746 d May 1827)m Elizabeth Hull (b 1758 d ? at Enon VA~~Son~~Jehu Summers (b 1776 d 1864) m Johanna Davis (b 1778 d 1837) Dau~~Harriet Summers( b 1829 d ?) m Alexander Nichols 1831 VA (b 1815 d 1887) Dau~~Sarah Jane Nichols (b 1841 d 1914) m Hosea Fitzwater b 1831 d 1865 (in Civil War) Son~~Newton Tyler Fitzwater( b 1861 d 1949) Son~~ William Harrison Fitzwater (b 1889 d 1964)(my Grandfather)~~Son ~ Arlie Lee Fitzwater( b 1928 d 1974)(My Father) Dau~~Donna Jean Fitzwater b 1950(me). I’ll check in ancestry.com where I have a tree to see how far back it goes from Johan. I believe Jehu was born in the Shenandoah area and he married at Tom’s Creek. Thanks for posting this~~Cuz~~Blessings~~Grey Dove (Donna):D PS~ All were born and married in Virginia and later West Virginia then when my Grandfather was abt 7 moved to Indiana where I am now. Grandpa told me they came by horse and wagon and he rode horseback~amazing~~More Later~~^~~
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30347Hi Stacey, I found this on norman files~http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hcpd/norman/SUMMERS/MICHAEL.htm 🙂 Enjoy~~Greydove
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30379Hi Greydove,
The kids are on spring break this week, so I haven’t been on the computer much, but thanks for that link. I have not seen it before. Nobody seems to have much information on my Lewis’ line forward. I only seen one tree on Ancestry.
Stacey
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30387Hi, Greydove,
Here’s an interesting Mr. Hart: I stumbled across A Tour in the United States of America:, by an Englishman, John Ferdinand Dalziel Smyth, published 1784 in London. Mr. Smyth wrote a two volume account of his travels through the colonies just before the Revolution (I couldn’t figure out exactly when, but it appears to be the early 1770’s), and his experiences during the Revolution.
Chapter 33 covers part of his travel in North Carolina. It’s subtitled “Mr. Hart. A most hospitable, benevolent Person. An accomplished Gentleman. Agreeable Surprise. Fortunate Escape, Mr. Bailey. Strange Manner of Lodging. A lovely Girl. Sawra Towns. Sawra Nation. Upper Sawra Towns. – 245”
He had intended to go from Hillsborough to the Sawra Towns, got lost, and was rescued by Mr. Hart, who lived near Hycoe Creek and Country-Line Creek, which I guess is Caswell Co. ? When he finally got to the Sawra Towns he stayed with Mr. Bailey, of whose daughter he said “a most lovely charming brunette, named Betsy” … (later) “the image of the lovely Betsy Bailey can never be erased from my mind.”
Of the Sawras he says: “The Sawras, although once a considerable nation of Indians, have been long extinct: there is not even a single family or trace of them remaining, excepting these vestiges of their towns, this being fortunately preserved as the appellation of these two settlements.”
Here’s a Googlebooks link:
It’s one of those google books that limits the number of pages you can read. Chapter 33 begins on page 245. I have a hard cover copy out from my public library right now.
There’s a part on his visit to the Catawba towns from page 184 to 195.
“I was not a little surprised to find that they all spoke English very intelligibly; and they informed me that they understand, and pronounce it as well as their own language.”
Just thought the coincidence of a Hart in that particular area, and a Bailey, was intriguing. I think this Hart family has several people researching it.
Barbara
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30395stacey.23 wrote: Hi Greydove,
The kids are on spring break this week, so I haven’t been on the computer much, but thanks for that link. I have not seen it before. Nobody seems to have much information on my Lewis’ line forward. I only seen one tree on Ancestry.
Stacey
Stacey, You are most welcome~~Greydove~^~
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30396Barbara Adair Bauer wrote: Hi, Greydove,
Here’s an interesting Mr. Hart: I stumbled across A Tour in the United States of America:, by an Englishman, John Ferdinand Dalziel Smyth, published 1784 in London. Mr. Smyth wrote a two volume account of his travels through the colonies just before the Revolution (I couldn’t figure out exactly when, but it appears to be the early 1770’s), and his experiences during the Revolution.
Chapter 33 covers part of his travel in North Carolina. It’s subtitled “Mr. Hart. A most hospitable, benevolent Person. An accomplished Gentleman. Agreeable Surprise. Fortunate Escape, Mr. Bailey. Strange Manner of Lodging. A lovely Girl. Sawra Towns. Sawra Nation. Upper Sawra Towns. – 245”
He had intended to go from Hillsborough to the Sawra Towns, got lost, and was rescued by Mr. Hart, who lived near Hycoe Creek and Country-Line Creek, which I guess is Caswell Co. ? When he finally got to the Sawra Towns he stayed with Mr. Bailey, of whose daughter he said “a most lovely charming brunette, named Betsy” … (later) “the image of the lovely Betsy Bailey can never be erased from my mind.”
Of the Sawras he says: “The Sawras, although once a considerable nation of Indians, have been long extinct: there is not even a single family or trace of them remaining, excepting these vestiges of their towns, this being fortunately preserved as the appellation of these two settlements.”
Here’s a Googlebooks link:
It’s one of those google books that limits the number of pages you can read. Chapter 33 begins on page 245. I have a hard cover copy out from my public library right now.
There’s a part on his visit to the Catawba towns from page 184 to 195.
“I was not a little surprised to find that they all spoke English very intelligibly; and they informed me that they understand, and pronounce it as well as their own language.”
Just thought the coincidence of a Hart in that particular area, and a Bailey, was intriguing. I think this Hart family has several people researching it.
Barbara
Barbara, Thank you for this. I’ll have to go to the library and get the book, too. I appreciate this. This could possibly be a great break-thru for me. Once again thank you!! ~Greydove~^~
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30402Good Morning All, I posted this link some time ago but for all the new members here at Saponytown it’s worth reposting as it has alot of people’s surnames here. Welcome to all new people~~enjoy~~Greydove~^~:D ~~ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hcpd/norman
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30424Hi All surname link~ http://www.oshel.com/surname_links_service.htm G’day!~Greydove~^~
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #30608Hi All, Here is a good search engine thats free for genealogy research. http://www.ancestorhunt.com/surname_search.html Also, hey Sammorraq “Shirley” I found Lonzo Sparks b 14 Jan 1875 d 12 Feb 1956 in the list for Kesslers Cross Lanes Cemetary in Nicolas Co. WVA. My GGG~Grandparents Samuel & Margaret Hart are buried there also. Blessings~~Greydove~^~:)
November 22, 2007 at 10:20 pm #34851
AnonymousInactiveGreydove, Hi !
I was Howard surfing and found Anna Hart m. George Sizemore N/A descent from VA.
There are alot of specific names of descent from Ephraim Osborne and his family who intermarried with the Cherokee and who they married.
For example: his son , Jonathan, by Ephraim’s wife, Elizabeth Howard ,married Mary Brock, d/o Aaron Brock aka Cutsawah or Red Bird and Cherokee mother.
Their son, Jonathan , married Mary c. 1802 (Ward?) 3rd wife- and had a son,
Elias Osborne, who married Sarah Sizemore d/o George Sizemore of VA N/A descent. ( I’ve seen alot of Sizemore names on the 1704 Quit Rent Rolls.)
and wife, Anna Hart.
link: http://www.1s.net/~newriver/nrv.htm
Also, I found the George Howard who married Chloe ” Langley’ Osborne on another page that has alot of Brock descendents. It links in with this page but, I don’t know how accurate the source is.
link: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyborn/howard.html
It looks like Mary Brock had several children and one son, Jesse Osborne, married Rebecca Howard d/o Samuel Howard and Elizabeth Dryden on this list.
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