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October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11720
Linda,
It would be a punt.
There are 6 Thomas Potters in 1930 Chicago, Cook Co., Ill.:
Thomas Potter, 52, b. WVa, Va, Va, widowed, wife was b.Ct. according to the children’s mother’s info.
This Thomas had a son Thomas, born abt. 1918, which would make this son in his 30’s in the 1950s.
The only other one that comes close is Thomas, 11, b.abt. 1919 Ill, Wi, Wi., who is a stepson of a guy named GRACE.
We’d really need more information to be certain.
The other three:
1 b.1899 Greece.
1 b. 1862 Wales.
1 b.1903 (Thomas W., “Roomer”)
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11726Linda:
Deb is rebuilding her family tree after a computer crash. The Potters cross her line too. She might have some info I can later share. What I have found on mine has led me to think that many were ministers and I think that this is how the connection was made with native Americans. I think, while mixed, they must not have been as mixed as the Sinkeys. My ggrandfather quit associating with most of his Indian ancestors and according to my great aunt, the Potters were not as bad as the Sinkeys. I interpret that as a reference to who was less native. Both of us were told Blackfoot and we never knew one another growing up, even though we lived fairly near each other. I never knew I was related to Sinkeys and Potters until 2 years ago.
Cindy
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11789Thanks for the info Cindy. Right now I get on the computer just a half hour every few days, so it mght take a while.
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October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11797Bill said:
Thomas Potter, 52, b. WVa, Va, Va, widowed, wife was b.Ct. according to the children’s mother’s info. This Thomas had a son Thomas, born abt. 1918, which would make this son in his 30’s in the 1950s.
This sounds like it might be right. My dad was born 1919, “back of the yards,” (the stockyards/slaughterhouse) on the south side of Chicago. My mom’s family also lived there. Tom Potter would have lived in the same neighborhood. Does that census record list addresses? What does the WVA, VA, VA signify?
How do you go about singling out a Thomas Potter 52 in WV? Just look at all of them in that state, looking for one born in what, 1878? Isn’t that incredibly time consuming? Or do you know how to use indexes better than I do?
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11799Linda,
I couldn’t figure out what part of town this District was located in and the street name was either illegible or not listed – I do remember looking for that information to determine which of these guys lived on the south side.
The “Wva, Va, Va.” means he was born “WVa”. His father was born “Va.” His mother was born “Va.”
The “other” Thomas, b.1919 Illinois “Ill, Wi, Wi.” listed as the GRACE guy’s step-son did seem to have some promise since his parents were both born in Wisconsin, but you didn’t say anything about where his parents might have been from so I just mentioned it. I can go looking for him and his original parents if you have anything about them that would tell us “it’s them” if we did find them.
As for the index searches……..
In this case, I knew Chicago was Cook County, Illinois. So I keyed up “Thomas Potter” in “Cook” County “Illinois” on the ancestry.com search page and it came up with a bunch of Thomas Potters to sort thru 🙂 I don’t think there’s any easy way to do it.
Bill
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11806Wher did you loose me at? 🙂 This is Blackfoot Cem. stuff? Maybe it’s just too early in the morning for me!:D
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11808Sorry, Lynella. Cindy mentioned her Potters so I thought I should dig into the Potters in my family.
That Potter whose parents were from WI is intriguing. I’ll ask my mom if she can help get any more info.
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11809Linda,
😀 Oh! That’s cool! You got me hot on Evans’ so I’ve been digging for the parents and grand parent of Ezra Evans and have found absolutely nothing. What a way spend the morning! Time for more coffee! Love & Light, Lynella.:)
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11815Linda and Lynella:
I have Evans as well as Potters in my genealogy.
Linda, there is a Thomas Potter who is listed several times in the Green genealogy that I have who was an M.E. minister. Here’s one of the obits that he is found in (I have a few others.):
JACKSON SENTINEL, MAQUOKETA, IOWA, Thursday, May 13, 1909.
BUTT, Morgan Green, son of Bazle and Mahala Green Butt, was born in Lincon Co, Ohio, Jan 19, 1842, and died at the home of his son in Brandon Twp, Jackson Co, Iowa, May 8, 1909, aged 67 years, 3 months, and 20 days. His mother, Mahala Green, was the first white child born in Lincon (sic-Licking) Co, Ohio. He came to Iowa in 1878, settling west of Monmouth. On March 10, 1879 he was united in marriage with Mrs. Clarissa Gould, who died on March 7, 1909. To this union were born three children, all of whom, Squire Butt, Mrs. Adelia Nowchek, and Mrs. Lutie Ripperton, together with a daughter by his first marriage, Mrs. Byra Grubb, survive to mourn the loss of a father. Three of Mrs. Butt’s children–Amby, and John Gould, and Mrs. Della Marriner–also survive. In 1888 Mr. and Mrs. Butt moved onto a farm northwest of Monmouth which was their home for 21 years. In February, 1909, they retired from active farm life and moved to town. Mrs. Butt lived but a few days after removing to town, and in less than nine weeks the companion of 30 years followed her in death. Since the death of his wife, Mr. Butt made his home with his son Squire, and soon after going there was taken sick with a complication of diseases. He lingered for several weeks, continually growing weaker, until on the afternoon of May 8th he passed away. Besides his children and step-children, to whom he was as a father, Mr. Butt leaves to mourn his loss three Brothers, Reese, Bazle, and William; two sisters, Mrs. Charlotte Casson, and Mrs. Caroline Casson, all of Lincon (sic–Licking ) Co, Ohio, and a large circle of friends. The funeral services conducted by the Rev. Thos P. Potter, were held at the M.E. Church in Monmouth at 2 PM, Monday, May 10. all the children, with the exception of Mrs. Byra Grubb of Chicago, were present at the last said rites. A large company of friends and neighbors gathered to pay their last respects to the one who was departed. The body was laid to rest in Monmouth Cemetery, by the side of his wife, who had died but two months before.
(I found a very intriguing thing in southern Chicago. My husband was interviewing for a job there and one house I was looking at was on McCarthy street, near Houston street and Wheeler street. All are names in my family.)
Cindy
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11818I just talked to my mom and she said our Potters were from Mouston, WI, which is about 20 miles from Hillsboro, WI. She says Mouston is the exit on 51, right before you get to the Hillsboro exit. Hillsboro is in Vernon County where my mom was born. Cousin Sandy Potter says both her parents, my Aunt Regina and Uncle Tom, were both Indian. So, maybe we can hook our Potters to the ones in your community, Cindy.
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11820Linda:
Mauston is about 150 miles from Maquoketa. However, it is only 21 miles from Wisconsin Dells. Would they have been (are?) members of the current tribes in Wisconsin? My husband and I went to the Dells last year and watched the dances at the HoChunk Casino at the Dells.
My Potter line is traced to William Potter who is buried in the same cemetery as my Blackfoot ggggrandmother. He was a Rev. War soldier for VA. Bill said that it was “on the line.” He lied about his age and joined.
The Potters are found in Licking County, OH with the rest of the bunch, and they intermarry with the Sinkeys, several times over. That area of OH also has some Harris.
Cindy
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11823My sense is that they had Appalachian origins, not sure why I assume that. They were Indian in the same sense as many of us, categorized as white, but considered “low class” because of the mixed blood, lack of education and poverty. Where is Maquoketa? I don’t remember you mentioning that before.
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11827Linda:
It’s the county seat of Jackson County, IA where my bunch lived. Also the place I got my braces when I was a kid, a football rival, location of a really nice (so I am told) art, antique place and very like the land they came from in PA. It is hilly (yes, there are hills in eastern IA, hills that don’t grow soybeans well but make great canoeing) and full of trees. The Maquoketa River is very scenic and this is where my ancestors located a mill and farmed. Like southwest Wisconsin.
Cindy
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11829Linda,
I haven’t been able to find either of the Thomas Potters of 1930 Chicago, in the 1920 census, which means they were probably born in 1920 after the census was taken.
I’ll need Thomas Potter’s parents’ name/s and trace them back because there are several Potter lines in Vernon and I suspect they are unrelated.
Bill
October 31, 2004 at 1:14 am #11839M. E. Church means Methodist-Episcopal.
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