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Linda,
Just checking in. Happy New Year All! How is this years campout plans going? I’m still ultra in! I want to go really bad! I like your idea you posted earlier for the location. Time for me this summer will be irrelivant, I’m ignoring that ticking nusance! I’ll take a break where ever I have to for this. Just let me know!
Happy New Year back atcha!
….and thank you, Lynella, for the lovely Christmas card! 🙂 I was so surprised and pleased that you thought of me!
I’m very excited about the gathering this summer as well. I will be there if I possibly can. We are bargaining a new labor contract this summer, and I’ve applied for an internship program that will be a full time committment the last week of July and the first week of August. …….. so, unless my life interferes too much, I will come play in the woods with my friends this summer! 🙂
Just trying to find an update on this thread. Are we–meaning the Siouan descendants–a formal/informal group know as the Eastern Blackfoot Descendant’s Association?
Has anything new happened with this??
It was agreed to call it Eastern Siouan Descendent’s Association. There were plans to submit non-profit paperwork. Lynella sent it to Linda, but I don’t know what point it is at from there.
Several get together once a year, so watch for the discussion to begin. It usually is something like the last week in June (always opposite a conference I attend).
I assume that you wish your name submitted?
Techteach
Hello there, My name is Louise. I am a ceremonial sub chief to the CherokeeBlackfeet Cultural Circle in New York. I was told to go to this site last year & forgot all about it, I am happy I remembered. I entered into a conversation, actually a very nasty debate with some folks over at Indianz.com, about having Blackfeet blood in a Cherokee person. They went through the whole, “it couldn’t have happened thing. I know it did & can trace my Cherokee & Blackfeet roots back to the 1800’s, I am very glad that this site exists & I will be visiting often. 😀
[I] Will there be a Eastern Blackfoot Association or an Eastern Blackfoot organization? I would love to be a part of that
Hi Linda, I was unsure of where the Blackfeet blood came from, I had some nasty words with some of the Western tribes who said I was confused, my grandmas papers said that Blackfeet blood came from NC, which would be the old Saponi.
I wanted to let you know that in DC we now have Global Indigenous Healing Circles, most of our members are native mixed bloods. Eastern Indian people have our culture, but because of whatever happened during chasing folks to the west, we haven’t had much of an example.
I was pretty fortunate in that my grandmothers made sure I was knowledgeble about the clans (Cherokee) in my family they also made me very knowledgeble about certain dancing like the hoop dance, the round dance, not a whole lot more. I was also taught how to smudge & pray, so I can hold my own in situations that I am around folks who are so assimilated, till they don’t know how
I am saying nothing bad against assimilation, we really don’t know much as east coaster tribes as a whole & most did not get a whole lot of info from their families. I am hoping that some of that negative stuff can change, we have 7 generations in front of us to worry about & the 7 generations behind that one & on & on.
I tell the western folks that on the east coast mixing seemed to be the only way some stayed alive, that some kept their land & their pride.
Assimilation was the thing to be, because to identify as indian was to ask for ridicule, from whites & from blacks. Growing up in New York around other blacks, was hellish & it was all about choice, the choice was, identify as black & nothing but, or be ostracized. My neighborhood was a mixed one & the native/black kids were Cherokee,Seneca & Oneida. We began having Mohawks ( I dated a Mohawk/black guy who was killed in Attica)
It is so important to learn our ancestors ways, this is a way of repaying them for helping us to be born.
Native people were given the responsibility of taking care of this land, when the invaders came they interrupted that process & subsequently we have messed up lands.
One day, things will be reversed & we will be in the positions we were intended to be in, but we must learn what that position is, shouldn’t we?
I am a ceremonial chief to the CherokeeBlackfeet Cultural Cirlce in New York. Many folks there also carry Saponi descendant blood in their veins.
Chief Red Deer’s number is (917) 951-0294 or (877) 280-1625.
My number is 202) 986-3935. I would like to invite you to a meeting here in DC if you are on this end in April.
April 22nd, Chief Red Deer will be here to talk about the Cherokee Blackfeet Cultural Circle, we will have a naming ceremony & we will sign folks up for membership, that includes tax free status.
Do Na Da Gahvoni Wado
Louise Thundercloud
Heya Maude, welcome to Saponitown. You are preaching to the choir about the plight of eastern ndn descendents. Here at Saponitown we are pretty much apolitical. We are all about research…. amassing the facts and documents in one database which will show the world the truth through the proponderence of evidence. That is our goal. If you have access to a document that uses the term “Blackfoot” to describe your grandma, we would be very interested in seeing a scanned copy, as it would help prove a case for eastern blackFOOT saponi. Meanwhile, if you would post your known family info on our genealogy forum, we can all see where your people started and what migration they took ….. and you can find out who’s your cousins 😉
Ken
Hello all, there is another group to consider, “The Cherokee Blackfeet Cultural Circle” in New York. We are currently in a membership drive, you need to supply ID . Contact Chief Red Deer at (917) 951-0294 or (877) 280-1625. My name is Chief Louise Thundercloud, I can be reached via email at: maudehills@aol.com. I am the Southeastern representative of the CherokeeBlackfeet Cultural Circle here in DC.
Chief Red Deer will be here on the 22nd of April to talk about the Cultural Circle, we will have a naming ceremony & folks will be able to sign up for membership.
It is the 22nd of April at 2:30, 901 G Street NW. Washington DC .
You can call (202) 986-3925 (me) for information.
I have a group in DC for the unity of all indigenous folks. Most of us are mixed bloods on this coast, many do not have any documentation on a written basis, most have oral history & actually both native & african peoples kept pretty strict oral histories, those things are very important.
Sure, here is the information I have James Hill (grandfather) b 1905, d 1943 from our oaral history, he was CherokeeBlackfeet, Louise Carson, b 1911, d 1991, from the oral history, she was also Cherokee Blackfeet. My cousins are: Bobe Lockhart (deceased) Tiny Lockhart, (deceased) Uncle Bay Kitt (deceased) George Kitt b 1905 Maude Mc Willie b 1913 That is all the information I have. All my folks are from the Anderson County, Columbia & Sumter County areas of SC
I am sorry that I misunderstood what you asked. My tracing begins in 1863 with the Mc Willies, that would be in Cershaw County South Carolinas, my grandmother was born to that family, then met up with my grandfather who was raised on a reservation in Kansas. That would be a few years late, 1910. They ran from the reserve, we have not been told why. My mother was born from those two in 1935. My parents met in New York around 1953, My fathers family is where we were told the Blackfeet blood came in, but also Mali blood from Jamaica, that would be from a great grandfather, who was taken as a slave from South Carolina to the Carribean, so I carry that blood as well. We also have the Lockharts in my tree, altho none of us know when they got in, we have Vances also. So We are McWillies (from a Scoth Irish slavemaster) Kitts from my grandad on my mothers side, Carson’s from my fathers side & Hills also from his side. Lockharts from mom’s side & Vance. I do not know much about my dad’s side. I deeply apologize for not being able to provide a written paper saying Blackfoot/Blackfeet.
I know from what I went through this past week, that the folks out west think it is a joke that anyone in the east would claim Blackfeet blood, that doesn’t seem to be a conversation any of them are interested in having.
I think that the best thing we can do on the east coast is learn all we can about the ways of our ancestors, adopt them to the truest form & get our pride in ourselves back with our knowledge.
Most of us on this coast are mixed in one or many ways. Most of our folks had to mix to survive.
We just have to keep keeping on & learning & growing
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