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I see them on the 1850 census for Washington, Patoka, and Madison, Pike, Indiana. Why so many counties I have no idea. It does say she is from SC.
Name:Gemima Morton
[Jemima Harrell]
Age:65
Birth Year:abt 1785
Birthplace:North Carolina
Home in 1850:
Washington, Patoka, and Madison, Pike, Indiana
Family Number:219
Household Members:
Joseph Morton 70
Gemima Morton 65
Sinthy J Hinman 19
Mathew B Morton 22
John Hinman 22
Mima Morton 6
In doing a quick search, I don’t see her name directly, but can see many Harrells from NC. If I run across her name I will be sure to post on it. There is a photo of her, and her headstone as well, no details unfortunately.
In looking at trees, theres 68,775 hits lol. In doing a brief scan, some trees say her parents are:
Burgess Harrell, Sarah Mary Brooks OR George Harrell, Sarah Polly Brooks seem to be the most popular.
I looked at a few, parent records seem scarce, but one says Burgess if born in KY in 1767, another says
Sara is b.1743 Medford Mass. For what its worth…Not likely the wife was older than the husband.
Id say a deeper search is in order.
One 3 Page photo of a note posted about Harrell families from NC says one persons study on the family found 30
different Harrell families in NC, they reference the Bertie Co Harrell as being one of the oldest of NC and say they originated from Nansemond co VA which in the old days bordered Bertie co NC. It says their one ancestor was a Thomas Harrell who came to VA abt 1640. It don’t give reference for claims or say where Thomas came to VA from.
Evidently their family move to GA in very early 1800s and generations later to AL where they married into Hodges (A name I think Ive seen on the forum). On to LA and TX. Where the man who wrote the note had settled.
I kind of got side tracked also in my search, when a Harrell from NC married a Weeks in IN. This drew my attention because I have a Weeks on my moms side. I don’t recognize the first names as familiar, but the fact that I share both those surnames is interesting. The Weeks and Harrell are from Orange Co NC. I traced the Weeks line on that tree back two generations to VA, and the third generation was a Francis Weeks b.1660 VA. My Weeks is a female Francis Weeks DAR b.1792 VA d.1868 IN. Interesting to me anyway…Someone to try and link my Weeks to.
Sometimes the sidetracks are where the best finds are. Jemima Harrell was a sidetrack to the Mortons. When I found her after finding close connections to Love, Gibson, and several other surnames mentioned in this thread.
So, not having any of the on-line paid services, my searching is often unconventional. Worldconnect gave me nothing definitive so I went to Find-a-Grave. Their search feature is cool because you can search BEFORE or AFTER a birth or death date. So my first search parameter was Surname: Harrell, Buried: NC, Born: BEFORE 1850. That gave me a little over 200 burials. Looking at it as metadata, I saw the clusters in and around Bertie Co and another cluster to the west in and around Surry CO,NC. This latter cluster is very close to Wythe Co,VA so is likely spillover from that family.
No cluster around Person Co, but a single burial in a church in Caswell Co,NC started by the Leasburg group that the Mortons were a part of. This does place a single Harrell family with the Person co Mortons. Leasburg is on the border of Person/Caswell.
Have you tried http://www.usgenweb.org/ ?
Im not always happy with their limmitedness but they are free. The usefulness depends on the host of the particular counties of each state I think, so some are more helpful than others with more features. Ive had great luck with some and not so much on others. If you know the county your searching its better. I do like their maps, see “projects” for that.
It sounds like your unconventional method work rather well to figure things out like that. Good to know.
seeker;37705 wrote: Have you tried http://www.usgenweb.org/ ?
Im not always happy with their limmitedness but they are free. The usefulness depends on the host of the particular counties of each state I think, so some are more helpful than others with more features. Ive had great luck with some and not so much on others. If you know the county your searching its better. I do like their maps, see “projects” for that.
It sounds like your unconventional method work rather well to figure things out like that. Good to know.
Yep, Becky and I (and our associates;-) are responsible for much of the info on the Person Co,NC genweb site. We also try to check in on the message board frequently.
There is only so far a paper trail will take you. Obviously, you want to beat that paper trail to death but you find the greatest truths when you take a leap of faith and follow the most obvious truths even when you can’t document. Our people sometimes tried to stay hidden so their trail isn’t always clear.
My admiration for stepping up to help the cause. I have considered it myself, but don’t trust my knowledge enough to be of benefit to anyone.
Truth that on the hidden trails. Unfortunately for us trying to find generations old trails. I think I’m coming to that point on many of my lines. But maybe not. It seems like it sometimes. I just want the truth. Im psyching myself up to accept whatever I find, and whatever I don’t..
I think my next biggest thing to do is scour my local counties for info on my more recent ancestors. Things not on line.
Maybe something will show up that can answer the unknowns, and learning more of the steps I need to take to fill in the gaps. Perhaps by then I will know more of how its done to help myself as well as others.
My mother has been planning a trip to check paper records in Indiana. I’m not an expert in that area, but it seems court records, land deeds, and marriage bonds at county courthouses are the main sources. Also obscure family history books in local libraries. I’ve also heard that the Mormons can have clearer images of hand written census sheets. Does anyone know if that’s true? Rick Haithcock’s book was very helpful for me as well – which has copies of some of those obscure records from Ohio. I’m going to try and make some more sense of these William Harrell ancestors as soon as I have my Ancestry tree migrated.
Im not sure on the Mormon records. https://familysearch.org/search
The last time I checked, it links you back to Ancestry to see the originals. It does give you the general info though, for free.
Its pathetic I havent been to one of the greatest libraries of genealogy research when its an hours drive from me.
Raising five kids has a way of putting hobbies on the back burner. That’s a good thing. And worth any price. Don’t get me wrong.
I have found good info there on line though… also free.. http://www.genealogycenter.org/
They aslo have one for native specific..
I think I have taken all my lines as far as I can with easily accessible sources. For many years, Becky had Wed afternoon off work and most of those afternoons she spend at the Person Co courthouse doing lookups for us or others.
The register of deeds office has started digitalizing some of those records as time permits. Still nothing beats poring through those old books and ledgers and papers. You never know what you will find but when you browse with multiple goals you will always find something new.
As far as helping on a site like genweb, Becky and I rediscovered, and surveyed hundreds of “lost” family cemeteries. We submitted the info and our excellent webmaster took it from there. We also monitored the messageboard and did lookups, located and recorded geodesic points and commemorative roadside signs, old mills, homesites, stores and churches. Before we started dancing, searching was our passion. Still is… just the constrants of time and the number of irons in the fire at any time.
Its an adventure I look forward to Dreaminghawk. I did get out years ago and search the records held in a county museum.
I was blessed with finding Phillip E Harrell and his wifes obit, which had other valuable info, as well some estate records of her dad, and another relatives info. It was great. I was elated, and felt like I struck it rich. Bless your heart for giving others that same feeling. And Becky to.
I have been trying to find the first wife of Chester Harrell today, hoping for something to link my Philip.
I came across one tree that had an first name for her. Unverified of course, it claims…
H Emyline Everett b.1760 d.1789 Nelson KY. Id assume she was born in VA since she married there. I think it was?
Unfortunately, the tree didn’t list Phillip a child of hers.
Makes me wonder if she died giving birth to Phillip because her death year is same as his birth….
Ol Chester re-married right away, which means Phillip would have known no other as his mom.
I cant believe so few list him as a child in this family. Whats up with that?
I need to find something in Nelson Co to nail this.
Some interesting finds also in my search…things that make ya go hmmmmm
Im sure this is well know around here, if not member written even..Fascinating read btw.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gowenrf/malangu.htm
I guess the author of some of the documentation is why it came up for Everett.
Not to mention, my other surname of Weeks is in the article and runs back to VA.
Dejavu? hmmmmm
Another Dejavu, that county of Nansemond VA I also posted on yesterday.
Bible Records of Suffolk and Nansemond County, Virginia
Has eight different pages that reference the surname of Everett.
One page has a Cotton family listed above them, I believe Ive seen that name around here as well.
I didn’t find anything but speculation, but wow. I feel like a hound on a hot trail.
Forgot to mention…
I know it don’t mean anything, but as I was reading through the article above I did see other of my surnames
in various places, as well, some first and middle names of my ancestors matched some surnames.
One, was Ray, matches my Jesse Ray Harrell.
Two, Francis , matches my Francis Weeks.
Weaver, my Elizabeth Weaver b.1815 OH, married my Soloman Yeazel.
Harman, my John Harman b.1810 PA
Parker, My Sylvanous Parker b.1806 MA, I believe he came from an older Sylvanous Parker in Quaker records.
All of these are the farthest Ive gotten on their lines, other than Soloman and Jesse.
Seeker says:
Some interesting finds also in my search…things that make ya go hmmmmm
Im sure this is well know around here, if not member written even..Fascinating read btw.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb….rf/malangu.htm
I guess the author of some of the documentation is why it came up for Everett
An ancestor wanted you to read that is why it came up in your search 😉
I read part, scanned the rest and put the link in my favorites to finish later. It IS a fascinating read. He doesn’t totally ignore the Native American component like a few researchers do. (or totally deny the African component like, sadly, some researchers still try to do)
I just keep sitting here going over the same information. Im kind of blown away.
When I found this place I was so overjoyed I cried. I had discovered the mystery of our Blackfoot.
I thought I was here looking for one line. Then, it turned into three, and four. Now, I don’t even know.
Not only did our ancestors make history, they made us. We are that history, and were making it known.
Im glad you liked the article Dreaminghawk. I thought for sure it would have been know of here already.
Im glad Im contributing in some way.
I did a search 1760 VA Everett.
I got others states also, and an idea of what my options are for an Everett daughter born 1760.
Not to mention a migration pattern of anyone on a census.
These are the oldest that would suggest a parent for my Everett mom.
John and Samuel, of Hunterdon, NJ 1741
John, of White Chappel Parish, Lancaster VA 1750
Thomas, of Northumberland VA 1758-82
Daniel, of Richmond VA 1765-68
Major explosion in the 1780s then..
John, Henry, Nathall and Thomas, in Tyrell NC 1780
Israel, and Obed in New Jersey 1780
John, St. Ann Parish, Abemarle VA 1780
Daniel, Pittsylvania VA 1782
Walter, Monongalia VA 1782
John and Samuel, Isle of Whight VA 1782
William, Northumberland VA 1782
Etheldred, Summers Darden Nansemond 1783 (three county collection I believe but Id bet Nansemond)
John, Josiah,Mary, Samuel,and Willis, all show up in Holland dist. Nansemond co VA 1783
Somehow I got Phillips Birth wrong on my tree. I fixed it according to the find a grave index.
Hopefully that’s right. So his mom didn’t die in childbirth anyway.
Name:Phillip Harrell Birth Date:12 Oct 1787 Death Date:2 Aug 1857
Searching for his wife, Cathrine Redding b. 1796 KY
!800 census has
3 Reddin in Shelby co
2 Redin Woodford co
2 Redding Jessamine co
1 Reding Harrison co
1 Reading Franklin co
1 Reading Barren co
Most of these are 2-3 counties away so it wont be easy tracing which one is hers.
On second thought it might be ok, I have to look at each one and see
who has a a daughter under five. that should narrow down anyway, well maybe.
I got side tracked on that one and didn’t finish what I was doing.
Nevermind, it was a tax list. cant do that…
Dreaminghawk;37701 wrote: And here is Joseph Morton who died in Pike Co, IN (from the Morton thread)
Father: Meshack MORTON b: 1754
Mother: Nancy ASHBURN
Marriage 1 Jemima “Mime” HARRELL b: in North Carolina
Married: 30 NOV 1801 in Person County, North Carolina
Can anyone place this Jemima Harrell from Person Co,NC?
On some Ancestry trees her parents are listed as Burgess Harrell and Sarah Mary Brooks. Not enough info to say if she is related to seeker and my Harrells or not.
Her burial in Flat Creek Cemetery is close to the location of the Blackfoot Church in Indiana- neighboring townships in Pike County.
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