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You got back further on your Moores than me! Thomas Moore, father of my Grandma Belle Moore Steele is where I am stuck!!!! He died in 1925 and the Steeles did not keep up with the family. My grandma died in 1964, so I have almost no info. to work with. I did find his grave on a hillside overlooking Devon, at the mouth of Beech Creek and I know he worked for the N & W railroad there. I did find his draft registration card that said he was born in Floyd Co., KY in 1888, leaving me to suspect that he may be a son Thomas of Calvin & Seatle Moore who was born in Floyd Co. in 1888. Can’t find a death certificate for some reason, so at this point this is just a speculation. This Floyd County Moore family can be traced back to Surry Co. NC during the RW., then Orange Co. in 1750’s. Before that, I don’t know.
I am not familiar with the Moores in Hampshire County, but I remember from Cecil O’Dell’s book on OLD FREDERICK that there was a William Moore from Prince Georges County, MD that moved into Orange Co. VA [Fairfax Grant] maybe by 1736? I think there is a Reily Moore, and a Joseph….Try looking in Orange Co., Old Frederick, and Hampshire. There are some Moore land grants on line at LVA, too, in these counties. Hampshire would have been Orange & Frederick early on.
I have this:
Orange Co. VA Order Book One 1734- 1739 at court on Tues the 20th of July 1736 John Smith, Wm. Moore, & John Daniels “made oath in open court that they were immediately imported into this Colony from Great Brittain or Ireland…” They were proving their rights for land, which they then assigned to a Robert Slaughter Gent.
A Riley Moore died in Frederick Co. Va, will proved 1 July 1760. He names wife Sarah, sons Reuben & James, other children not named…
There are a few other Moores.. I don’t have any notes on a Barbary…women are always the hardest!!!
Here’s a few grants from LVA:
Moore, William.
Publication 15 March 1744.
Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41.
Related See also the following surname(s): Moor.
Note Location: Orange County.
Description: 275 acres on the branches of James River on the west side the Blue Ridge adjoining John Scott
Moor, James.
Publication 19 December 1769.
Other Format Available on microfilm. Northern Neck Grants, reels 288-311.
Note Location: Hampshire County.
Description: 184 acres on Hugh’s Mill Run a branch of Great Cacapehon.
Source: Northern Neck Grants O, 1767-1770, p. 246 (Reel 296).
There’s more at LVA ……
Brenda
Linda; I’ve learned from my cousin that my 6th greatgrandfather, Gardner Green, assigned land on the waters of Great Buffalo Creek to William Marable in Mecklenburg Co. Va. and that this land appears to have shared a boundary with “Stith’s Line.” It is possible that Gardner Green’s land had been a part of Stith’s land. Do you know who this Mecklenburg Co. Stith was?
Dan.
I just went to a meeting of the Mecklenburg genealogical society tonight and the name Stith was prominent. We need some of those people in on this. I invited some over here. Hope they make it. I’ll try to get up with them.
Hi!
Don’t know if it’s any help, but Drury Stith keeps popping up in many deeds for Lunenburg, Brunswick co, etc. Seems to have owned a lot of land. Saj
I think this whole area is loaded with Stith. I sometimes wonder if the Stitt that we have in the Blevins family is just a misspelling but since it is not my direct line (that I know of) I have not researched it.
Here is one lead on the Stith family that gives some insight into possible Indian heritage or the lack thereof, but this is just one person. I am sure there are more and it would appear as if they held no negative attitude towared Native Americans
18. ROBERT18 BOLLING (JOHN17, ROBERT16, EDWARD15, TRISTRAM14, EDWARD13, TRISTRAM12, ROBERT11, ROBERT10, JOHN9, ROBERT8 DE BOLLING, JOHN7, WILLIAM6, JOHN5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2, WILLIAM1) was born December 26, 1646 in All Hallows, Barking Parish, London, England, and died July 17, 1709 in “Kippax”, Prince George County, Charles City, Virginia. He married (1) JANE ROLFE 1675 in Henrico Co., VA, daughter of THOMAS ROLFE and JANE POYTHRESS. She was born October 10, 1650 in Henrico County, Virginia, and died 1676 in “Kippax”, Prince George County, Charles City, Virginia. He married (2) ANNE STITH 1681 in Virginia, daughter of DRURY STITH and JANE PARSONS.
Notes for ROBERT BOLLING:
Robert was the first of the Bollings to settle in Virginia, he arrived in October of 1660. Robert Bolling had one child with wife Jane Rolfe and eleven children with wife Ann Stith. The descendants Jane Rolfe are called the “red” Bollings and the descendants of Ann Stith are called the “white” Bollings.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/ky/messages/31303.html
“Drury Stith, Survr. ” (surveyor), appears on many of the early Land Entry Records of this area in the 1740s and accumulated large tracts of land and is probably the same person referred to later as “Stith & Co Grants” in later Entry Records.
One hypothesis would be that this generated a “Charles Griffin effect” or another that he had a Native wife or wives.
Dan,
I only have a problem with the general propensity of europeans to refer to each individual village they ran across as a different ‘tribe’ , so we may never know if the three villages were or were not three separate tribes.
Bill
Originally posted by Dan Akin
Techteach;
I will keep an eye out.
That Shawnee thing makes me wonder also.
I know it isn’t popular, but the Shawnees lived for a time all over Mo.. In the Boone’s Lick area of central Mo. thay served as guides and scouts for the local militias.
50 Shawnee braves were with Col. Henry Dodge and Capt. Benjamin Cooper when they cornered 500 Miamis at Malta Bend Mo. in the early 1800’s.
Shawnee scouts were with Capt. Callaway when he was killed on the Loutre River.
The Shawnee had towns above Cape Girardieu along the Miss. River, on the Meremec River, at Owens Station in St. Louis County. at Lake Wappapello in southeast Mo., and a reservation just to the east of Springfield.
Here in Boone County we have a mysterious family of Ketchums who say they are cherokee, but the Ketchum name is found on U.S. treaties with the Shawnee.
One of the Ketchum descendants, a strange fellow, always said that he had been taught an Indian language by his grandfather. Although he could speak it very fluently it sounded very weird and certainly wasn’t Cherokee.
Dan.
The Shawnee also had a village where the Meramec River meets the Bourbeouse River (now Moselle, MO). They were invited to live there around 1796 by the French or Spanish to serve as a buffer for the nearby Osage Indians. I want to say the man that ruled the village was a Roberts or a Rogers.
Dan Akin,
Have you ever looked into the Indians who fought at Point Pleasant and may have been acquaintances of Daniel Boone at that time? Maybe there is a connection there…
Not sure if this will help since you did not post the year but a Thompson Stith recorded land in Mecklenburg.
There are also 6 references to Green.
12/11/1780 Benjamin Whitehead 400 acres, grantees, William; Coleman, Cleverius; and Whitehead, Benjamin.
12/11/1780 William Green Being Escheat land of Andw. Cockran, Wm Cunningham and Company British Subjects. Description: 400 acres beginning at Humphries corner on a branch of Allens Creek, &c. Grantee(s): Green, William; Coleman, Cleverius; and Whitehead, Benjamin.
12/11/1780 Cleverius Coleman, 400 acres
7/5/1774 George Ridley Description: 400 acres on the branches of Buckhorn Creek, adjoining Green and Hatchers land.
4/5/1774 James Griffith Description: 325 acres on the waters of Buffalo Creek, adjoining John Westmoreland, Wm. Green, &c.
2/16/1771 John Green Description: 380 acres on both sides of Buffalo Creek adjoining Griffins land.
This is the search engine
I use the “Land Records” “military Records and resources”
They have all of Va’s military for Lord Dunsmore and you can see the original land record when there is a link at the top of the listing. I have never registered and it is easy to copy/paste so you don’t have to type. If you use a spreadsheet you can even make it searchable.
Bezon Dan and all, I just came to your forum and so haven’t read all of the posts concerning the Gardner Green issue but felt I would share my latest findings. As a Researcher of the Shawnee of the 1700’s I had found that in all likelihood Gardner’s wives were either Christian Shawnee or Shawnee-Metis or adopted former captives of the Shawnee. this was my status on my ancestor, through his son John, until lately when while working on some other chickamauga families I realized that many of the families among the Chickamauga and Cherokee that were disallowed as members of the Cherokee were in fact Shawnee-Metis. Following the logic that if Family A was living as Chickamauga/Cherokee and were disallowed as members of the Cherokee and were in fact Shawnee-Metis then Family B that was living as Chickamauga/Cherokee and were also disallowed must be also Shawnee-Metis. since the family of Gardner Green falls into this catagory then it follows that in all likelihood he was in fact a Shawnee-Metis that lived as a Chickamauga/Cherokee. I will write again after reading all of the posts on this subject but that is where I am at today. I noticed a mention in the posts about the Battle of Point Pleasant. I am from Point Pleasant and humbly suggest that I have the most comprehensive and complete lists of combatants both white and red that may be found. Any queries on this battle are welcome. To see a sample of my work (though a little dated, coming form 2004) please visit http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names Paselo my borhter (and relative) Don Greene
The rumor in my Green family is Cherokee, but in fact, the language that one of my cousins remembers a few words from, is Shawnee. And the location they came from was very near Shawnee villages in WVA/VA, Martinsburg.
Techteach
Don Greene wrote: Bezon Dan and all, I just came to your forum and so haven’t read all of the posts concerning the Gardner Green issue but felt I would share my latest findings. As a Researcher of the Shawnee of the 1700’s I had found that in all likelihood Gardner’s wives were either Christian Shawnee or Shawnee-Metis or adopted former captives of the Shawnee. this was my status on my ancestor, through his son John, until lately when while working on some other chickamauga families I realized that many of the families among the Chickamauga and Cherokee that were disallowed as members of the Cherokee were in fact Shawnee-Metis. Following the logic that if Family A was living as Chickamauga/Cherokee and were disallowed as members of the Cherokee and were in fact Shawnee-Metis then Family B that was living as Chickamauga/Cherokee and were also disallowed must be also Shawnee-Metis. since the family of Gardner Green falls into this catagory then it follows that in all likelihood he was in fact a Shawnee-Metis that lived as a Chickamauga/Cherokee. I will write again after reading all of the posts on this subject but that is where I am at today. I noticed a mention in the posts about the Battle of Point Pleasant. I am from Point Pleasant and humbly suggest that I have the most comprehensive and complete lists of combatants both white and red that may be found. Any queries on this battle are welcome. To see a sample of my work (though a little dated, coming form 2004) please visit http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names Paselo my borhter (and relative) Don Greene
Don,
I’d love to see a list of those who fought at Point Pleasant. Please reply here or send me a PM.
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