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December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17123
Originally posted by Bill Childs
Brenda,
From that same source:
“1766. 21. Novr., John FARRILL 400 Ac(res) on the Walnut Bottom fork at the Town Cr(eek) beg(ining) at CHILDS upper line then up on both sides the sd fork.”
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Bill
Thanks, Bill. Close to a Childs, eh? Well, does this mean I would do well to start scouring court records in Pittsylvania? The first real paper I have on my William is that he was on the Clinch Tithables list of 1772…. I sure would like to have a brief bio. someday of all the men on that list. William is there with Mathias MOUNTS, and the Thompson men who were probably his brother-in-laws. A Joseph Martin is on the list, but I don’t know if it was THE Joseph Martin….William was married to Martha “Mattie” Thompson…….Any Thompsons close to the John Farrill land?
Thanks again,
Brenda
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17124[i]
http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapittsy/tith.htm
A List of Tithables for Pittsylvania County Taken by John Wilson, Gentl, in Year 1767
And includes the following interesting “Indian” notation:
Moses Ridle (Indian)
William Ridle
[Riddle, I presume….]
John Wynne
John Ferrol
Henry Greens Land
Etc.
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Quest For Facts,
Did you notice the Wynne/Winn?
I guess Jack Goins work included a lot of information on the Riddles, including Indian Moses Riddle:
“The following excerpts are from Jack Goins book, Melungeons: and Other Pioneer Families, which he has kindly granted me permission to enter here. If you would like additional information or to purchase your own copy of his excellent research, please contact him at: jgoins@usit.net“
“Micajer Bunch was one of those who migrated from the Flat River in Orange County, North Carolina to the New River. He lived in Fincastle County and later owned land in Wilkes County, North Carolina on Elk Creek. Micajer Bunch may have been one of the members of Tory Capt. William Riddle’s gang. Micajer went into Lee County, Va. near the same time as the orphan children of William Riddle. Micajer Bunch and William Ingram (Ingraham) were signers of the petition to form Lee County, Va. Ingraham was married to Happy Riddle, widow of William Riddle. Micajer Bunch also appears on a Cumberland County, Ky. tax list in 1799. … Micajer Bunch and William Riddle were at the battle of Point pleasant in 1774, and they were also defendants in a lawsuit with their commanding officer William Herbert.”
pp. 78-79
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“The Melungeons began selling their land on the Flat River in Orange County beginning about 1767 and moved to the back woods section of the New River in Virginia and North Carolina. They moved from the Pamunkey River area of Virginia to the Flat River beginning in about 1747-9. These families included Collins, Gibson, Bunch, Bolen, and possibly Moses Riddle. They were of the Baptist faith, some joined at Stony Creek by letter from another Baptist Church.”
http://www.fialcowitz.com/Bunch/other9.html
Also the Riddle Family Newsletter has published some good stuff on this family which is informative of the migration routes taken by them and possibly other associated neeighbors/family:
“The first record which appears to definitely be this William Riddle is the 1767 tax list, Tithables of Pittsylvania County, 17676 of persons residing in the newly formed Pittsylvania County, Virginia. He is listed as “William Ridle” and next to him on the list is “Moses Ridle (Indian).”
As far as can be determined, Moses Ridle was the father of William Riddle and was of Scotch-Irish, Indian and Portuguese (Melungeon) ancestry.7″
http://www.jimcal.com/v04is01.htm
Brenda
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17125I just wanted to add to Brenda’s posting of the Blackfoot Rez – the names in that posting are all surnames of mine – Horner (Queenstown, MD)was my ggg-something grandmother, Green (Port Tobacco, MD) was my ggg-something grandfather, and the Willisons marry into the Green line extensively, moving to WVA and Ohio with the Greens. The only thing is that the Blackfoot ID in my family comes from McLane while in Deb’s line comes from McLellend.
Techteach
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17127Did you notice the Dorsey link in that Blackfoot Rez post? Wonder if there is a connection to Dorseyville, PA?
Brenda
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17129Brenda:
I looked up the location of Dorseyville. It is very near where my Blackfoot ggggrandmother was from. And your folks were near there too.
Techteach
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17133Sure did Brenda 🙂
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17141This is great stuff!
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17202Brenda (and others):
Thought I would post this link : http://www.mitsawoket.com/Indiana%20Ties.htm
On this page, it discusses a family names Prettyman. I traced that family from Dagsboro (Blackfoot Town) to the Blackfoot Cemetery area in Indiana. Here, it identifies that name and connection as being Indian. And on the same page is a family with the Blackfoot ID.
Techteach
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17389December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17390Wonder if this Mr. Steel is one of the the Indian traders listed in “INDIAN TRADERS–1743-1775”, PA archives, posted at usgenweb and elsewhere?
1770, 4 Dec Andreas Steel
1773, Jan 4 William Steel
1764, June 2 Adam Stoll
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Indian Department
List of Men
http://www.royalprovincial.com/military/rhist/dian/dianretn2.htm
Great Britain, Public Record Office, War Office, Class 28, Volume 10, folios 427-428.
“Mr. STEEL Born in Ireland Aged 36. Merchant in Tryon County several Years. “
“GREEN Born in Pensylvania Aged 22. do”
etc.
Brenda
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17393Brenda Sampsel,
Regarding your question about THOMPSONs living near FARRILLs per the Land Entry Record Book referred to earlier.
I can’t determine the location of many of these branches and creeks referenced but there were Thompsons in the general area. I need to find an actual hardcopy map of the area as near to that time frame as possible.
The earliest Thompson entry:
“Sep.t 11 1745 Jn.o Thompson 100 ac.rs on the s.th Side Roanoke Riv.r begin: at the Mouth of Buffaloe C.r thence down the riv.r and up the Cr.”
The next earliest, and last Thompson:
“1756. 27.Decmr. James Thompson 400 Ac Adj.g the Lines of the Last above Entry when run on the So. Side.”
The “Last above Entry” was located
“on the Brs. of Elkhorn & Sandy Crs. Beg. at Woodsons Line th.e Each way and off.”
Note: The father of THE Joseph Martin was also a Joseph, so it may have been either of them. Joseph Martin Sr’s wife was a Chiles/Childs.
From same Entry Record Book;
“1766. 28. Mar. Joseph MARTIN Enters 3 small Islands in Stanton Rr. Oposite the plantation whereon Isham DALTON now lives.”
Bill
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17397Thank you, Bill, for the Thompson information. When things slow down I will try to get back to that 1772 Clinch Tithables list…guessing that many of them may have come from the same area.
Do you think there were still Saponi in the area when Joseph Martin 1. was living there? I knew about the Chiles/Childs connecton, but do not know the Childs line she belonged to– By the way, did you know there was a Childs/Chiles and Mounts connection early on in Cecil County Maryland? I need to dig the will out- I think a daughter of Christoher Mounts/Mounce trader/interpreter married a Childs. I’ve been digging some in Washington Co., PA and will get a reply back to you on your Mounts letter in a bit.
Brenda
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17398Actually, it was a grandaughter…I will post the connection under a new Mounts thread….
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17415This link talks about the Johnson and Massie/Massey connections.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/aplace.txt
Early Johnson Information:
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/JohnsonDatabase1.html
Combs Organization for Family Research:
http://www.combs-families.org/combs/index.html
Debby Briggs Site:
http://www.geocities.com/debabriggs/johnson
Francis Smith site:
http://www.fmsmith.com/washjoh.html
Rebecca Farris b. 1787 Lincoln Co., VA was the daughter of Dickman/Dickerman Thompson and Susannah Daugherty. They married in 1797 Franklin Co., VA.
These are my direct lines:
James Johnson b. circa. 1785 VA
married March 8, 1803 Pulaski County, KY to
Rebecca Farris b. 1787 Lincoln County, VA
They had:
Peter
Francis Asbury
Halcom(Malcom)
Robert
Green
George Washington
Jane
Martha P.
Wesley
Wiley
Barney
George Washington Johnson b. 1810 Pulaski Co., KY
married September 29,1828 Wayne Co., KY to
Nancy Elizabeth Thompson b. 1812 Pulaski Co., KY
they had:
William
Sarah
James Granville
Nimrod
Jane
Jemima
Mavina
Naomi
Margaret Peggy
Elizabeth Olivia
John
Temperance Tempa
Mildred Rutha
Nancy
James Granville Johnson b. October 1834 Wayne Co., KY
married May 26, 1856 Pulaski Co., KY to
Mahala Stodgill b. December 1838 Wayne Co., KY
they had:
John William
George Washington
Nancy Margaret
Andrew C.
James T.
Malinda Bell
Charles S.
Granville C.
Sirene
Ruth Armilda
Ruth Armilda Johnson b. December 20, 1881 Douglas Co., MO
married November 26, 1898 Douglas Co., MO to
John Jefferson Collins b. November 11, 1870 Howell Co., MO
They had:
Leonard G.
Ruby
Collis
Grace D.
Mae
Homer
Collis Collins b. Feb. 6, 1905 Willow Springs Howell Co., MO
married May 14, 1925 Tarrant Co., TX to
Lorena Pearl Rothgeb b. Sept. 6, 1908 Fredonia Wilson Co., KS
they had:
Jewel
Howard
Louise
Harold
Ruth
Thelma
Wiley Joe
Charlie Ray
Leon Preston
Leon Preston Collins b. May 7, 1943 Fort Worth Tarrant Co., TX
married December 28, 1967 Granbury Hood Co., TX
Margaret Irene Millican b. Feb. 14, 1945 Houston Harrison Co., TX
they had:
Debby Lynn
Patsy
Scott Preston b. Jan. 24, 1972 Richardson Dallas Co., TX
December 27, 2002 at 2:43 am #17416If you look at the above links and the information contained in them you will see a connection to the Nansemond County Collins lines which I posted links for in the Collins thread.
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